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On November 04 2010 04:18 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 03:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I have entrusted Bumatlarge with a message in case I die in the night. If he doesn't post it, he should be held accountable and possibly lynched. without pm, how you entrusted him a message exactly? also i dont understand why both Dr.H and DC are so willing to die tonight? you guys know somebody who much more worthy to save?
I can PM, I pm'd my conditional death post to bumatlarge like 2 minutes ago
please keep up with the thread
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On November 04 2010 04:18 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 03:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I have entrusted Bumatlarge with a message in case I die in the night. If he doesn't post it, he should be held accountable and possibly lynched. without pm, how you entrusted him a message exactly? also i dont understand why both Dr.H and DC are so willing to die tonight? you guys know somebody who much more worthy to save?
Bum can mason people and he masoned Dr. H last night.
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On November 04 2010 04:15 deconduo wrote:
Went through the list of people, and these are the names that I feel are lurking:
Hyperbola
infundibulum
Kenpachi
KtheZ
Lexpar
kitaman27
And to a lesser extent:
Bumatlarge (Ran for mayor, haven't seen him much since apart from the bit about Dr. H and his circle)
LunarDestiny
Meapak_Ziphh
I'd be most wary of infundibulum. I don't know how busy he is but he is a pretty experienced player and he's hardly contributed here at all. Hyperbola too.
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On November 04 2010 04:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 04:15 deconduo wrote:
Went through the list of people, and these are the names that I feel are lurking:
Hyperbola
infundibulum
Kenpachi
KtheZ
Lexpar
kitaman27
And to a lesser extent:
Bumatlarge (Ran for mayor, haven't seen him much since apart from the bit about Dr. H and his circle)
LunarDestiny
Meapak_Ziphh I'd be most wary of infundibulum. I don't know how busy he is but he is a pretty experienced player and he's hardly contributed here at all. Hyperbola too.
I also left out replacements because I feel they have some excuse for now, but maybe we should be looking at them as well.
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kitaman27
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On November 04 2010 04:15 deconduo wrote:
Went through the list of people, and these are the names that I feel are lurking:
Hyperbola
infundibulum
Kenpachi
KtheZ
Lexpar
kitaman27
Just pointing out that we have the same number of posts in the thread :p
In regards to the issue of using a medic on 666, I think the chance of a bomber is worth the risk. If it works then we take away a mafia kill and/or Node's role is confirmed to some extent and if you get bombed then hopefully at worst its one extra death in return for the death of a mafia and not having to worry about the bomber anymore (if it even exists). That is assuming 2 medics don't double up on 666, which will be hard to coordinate unless they have pm powers. There is always the chance of a m-rus attack, but that might be less likely if 666 is already set to die.
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Well if it helps in any way, I won't be protecting 666.
Why?
1. If I do, I'll be left open, so another medic would have to protect me -> useless strategy.
2. If there are medics out there who are NOT known by the mafia, they can probably protect without risking much.
So yeah, in case medics do read this, feel free to protect him. I'll keep pondering if there's someone I value more than myself. 
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I'm not sure I understand your logic.
On November 04 2010 04:41 CubEdIn wrote:
1. If I do, I'll be left open, so another medic would have to protect me -> useless strategy.
Aren't you already left open? You say the mafia already knows your identity after-all. Unless you are claiming you plan to protect yourself, which would be a poor claim as the mafia would then not bother targeting you with a kp.
2. If there are medics out there who are NOT known by the mafia, they can probably protect without risking much.
At the same time, it would be more risky for a unknown medic to risk a bomber than a public one.
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CubEdIn doesn't need to and shouldn't explain his logic
not everything has to be spelled out and townies don't and shouldn't say everything they're thinking right away. there is something to be said for not giving the mafia information they don't need.
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kitaman27
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I didn't realize CubEdIn was a confirmed townie?
Also, it was his post that revealed the extra information in the first place.
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no he isn't but just because somebody isn't confirmed doesn't mean they need to spill all their thoughts
a trap ain't a trap if you explain it first eh
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What Dr.H said, but I'll just clarify my post:
Left open = not protecting self. So yeah, that's what I meant. If I vow to protect 666 to "prove my role" or something, then I might as well hang myself. So it's more useful to promise NOT to, so that medics won't stack-up on him.
As for the last part, it's up to me if I value some other player enough to risk dying in order to protect him.
And I don't agree with you on that last statement. A dead medic is a dead medic.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 04 2010 04:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
a trap ain't a trap if you explain it first eh
Nor is a trap a trap if laid by friend rather than foe.
What Dr.H said, but I'll just clarify my post:
Left open = not protecting self. So yeah, that's what I meant. If I vow to protect 666 to "prove my role" or something, then I might as well hang myself. So it's more useful to promise NOT to, so that medics won't stack-up on him.
Ya I didn't really intend for you to respond to my original post, I just didn't see why you would commit either way.
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Because we don't want medics stacking-up on 666, and because it's been suggested earlier in the thread that I'd protect 666 to prove my role, and see if predictions can be stopped.
So, it's really not that big of a deal anyway, assuming there's more than one medic left.
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And where's L and Ace, no need to cause a fuss in the town when it's your turn to act eh?
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Well I need to go to work now, can't wait to see if I'll live or not
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On November 04 2010 05:13 CubEdIn wrote:
And where's L and Ace, no need to cause a fuss in the town when it's your turn to act eh?
Short version: Not done thinking about how many medics should be in this game. If there's no rush I'd rather put good content into posts instead of half done musings.
Because spamming the thread is bad mmkay.
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Well, cube's probably not going to listen to me of all people, but I find it unlikely that we'd have 4 or more medics in the game. We've already lost one. Cube claims to be another and the prots we're talking about stem from the assumption that we have at least a third.
Why don't I think we have 3+ medics? Mostly because mafia kp seems to be 2+1 and we already had 2 vig players flip. Additionally, we've seen multiple roles that protect themselves from getting killed during the night; bullet bill and CC in particular. To add to that, we haven't seen many classic 'anti-kp' roles like vet or hatter appear. M-rus is probably going to end up being the main source of net KP in the game (after modkills :/) and we've already lost 2 plague doctors. I'd be surprised if there aren't any more of them instead of medics. We're also completely missing detection roles from the revealed roles and we know that there have also been claims of stick/oracle/masonmaker. Seems like there's very little room for a fourth equivalent role.
M-rus as the main KP source is actually the first time I've come up for a real trade-off with your claimed Neo role as well, which makes me less likely to think you're lying. If mafia are spreading M-rus and they know you're a doctor that'll be visiting people, your reveal to them makes you a very good target as an M-rus spreader, which completely counteracts any net survival benefit you'd get by protting people. Unless you just prot yourself repeatedly, which limits the spread of KP.
So I'm kinda sitting here thinking that from an M-rus pov, its best for you to protect yourself, and from a "keeping you alive from a hit" point of view, its best for you to prot someone else and have another medic prot you. But that might be irrelevant because mafia won't want to kill someone that's spreading m-rus to the highest profile claimants. Especially if they're playing low key.
So given that the medic situation is a complete toss up, the only concrete suggestion I have is that I think you're a fantastic target to get immunized.
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i never sent you a code/decoder but ok D:
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So then what's that block of text?
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