Insane Mafia - Page 10

On November 08 2010 09:49 infinitestory wrote:
^actually, you're a bit off. The correct bolded statement is that he claimed a role which doesn't do what it usually does based on the name. I would be sure about the distinction there.

On November 08 2010 10:04 youngminii wrote:

If Ace is scum, you're simply backing him up and digging your own grave.

I say we lynch Pandain and kitaman, then when one of them flip red we'll have reduced mafia KP and we'll know the alignment of Ace.

On November 08 2010 04:25 Pandain wrote:
Wow, I roleclaimed so then you guys wouldn't lynch me but now I'm getting lynched because of it.

I don't think you guys see how much of an opportunity we have. Let's see the situation

There is a slight chance there are 4 medics, meaning one is still alive. I highly doubt there is 5 though, as that would seem a bit too much. However, there is still a great chance there are no medics.

Right now, we still have another double lynch. We have three investigative roles. With only about 19 people left having 3 people check 3 people each day will root out the mafia very quickly.

If you guys lynch me, we will only have two checks a day, possibly no DTS by the end(as if you lynch me and get the second one wrong mafia will still have 2 kp, and with possibly no doctors meaning they might be able just to snipe them off.)

Let me repeat what you guys are doing:
You are lynching an alignment cop
You are lynching an alignment cop
You are lynching an alignment cop
You are lynching an alignment cop

Confirming who I have is useless if you guys lynch me and mafia take out the rest of the dt's(granted of course the second lynch is wrong, and it might be.). We need to be lynching the most suscipcious people, so we'll be able to knock off at least one kp. Right now, lowering the kp is the number one priority.

On November 08 2010 09:54 infinitestory wrote:

As for this, a sudden bandwagon on Ace wouldn't save the player with the highest vote count. It would save the player with the second highest vote count. Who had the second highest vote count before kitaman's announcement? oshi- >_>

On November 08 2010 10:14 infinitestory wrote:

your claim of investigative role is hardly more believable than kitaman's

On November 08 2010 11:07 kitaman27 wrote:


I stated the night I watched him and he then confirmed he did not make an action on that date. There is no convenience as he did not reveal his actions prior to my declaration. Your argument is wrong.



Pandain, look at Ace throwing you under the bus. I know Ace and I are of opposite alignments. I can see the possibility of you being a mislead town who bought into Ace's deceptive argument. That's why I have not pushed against you while you target me.

On November 09 2010 01:38 kitaman27 wrote:
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Those who immediately opposed my claim without a strong reason to believe otherwise.
Specifically: KtheZ, Pandain, youngminii

On November 09 2010 06:40 Glasse wrote:
i think ace is mafia, i think i missed the whole hyperbola thing, why is everyone voting for him?

On November 09 2010 06:46 Kenpachi wrote:

I want to activate my powers .. and you were suppose to die and killing you may lead to findings on KtheZ.. we're still doing that right?

On October 30 2010 09:31 KtheZ wrote:
I would say that godfather would wreak the most havoc as mayor; Thus, I'm probably going to hold off my vote for a bit till I read up on the posts.
However, I'd like to ask DrH 1 question, sorry if it hasnt been answered
How can we be 100% sure you are not scum if there is the possibility of having shapeshifters in this game? Then you can always claim that you "guessed" wrong if you lynch a townie, and DT checks would show up as town.

On November 03 2010 09:22 KtheZ wrote:
Holy crap, I just noticed there were entire posts devoted to me. I'll come out as part of the shattered circle fishball was head of, and that youngminii was indeed added to our circle.

The only way I can now communicate is through this topic, I suppose.

On November 03 2010 09:23 KtheZ wrote:
The only reason I dislike posting is cause i hate having dumb questions, just like kids who raise their hand in class only to be laughed down (cause of their dumb questions)

On November 03 2010 09:24 KtheZ wrote:
I'll try to be more active now.

On November 03 2010 09:42 KtheZ wrote:


This is what I immediately thought of after I read bumatlarge's post. I think its most probably that townies DONT have a virus spreading role; that role is extremely anti-town.

On November 04 2010 07:12 KtheZ wrote:
Just wondering, whats a stick/oracle/masonmaker?

To add to your points:
I agree that it is highly unlikely for there to be 3+ medics, mainly for the reasons you stated.

Since we have lost 2 plague doctors ( Mafia and townie ones), it would probably to be safe to assume theres a HARD MAXIMUM OF 3 left, and a likely minimum of one that is town aligned.
So now since M-itis has become a HUGE kill factor in this game, I'd like to point out this observation:

All townies should consider if they really NEED to perform their role;

Weigh out the risks and benefits of performing your role. Right now, 3 people out of 28 are infected, so there is a ~11% chance of infection (3/27) if you decide to act. Of course, people like PD, medic, VITAL power roles should act, but what im trying to throw out is to:

ATTEMPT TO CONTAIN THE SPREAD OF M-ITIS RATHER THAN SPREADING IT.

This post is intended to deter people from performing their roles without WEIGHING OUT THE RISKS.

On November 04 2010 07:17 KtheZ wrote:
Its hard to believe it was randomly distributed, since noone started with M-itis, and it is MOST probable that mafia chose an outspoken person to infect first.

On November 04 2010 07:20 KtheZ wrote:
Wait how would it favor town in deaths and information? The only information we get is who died, their role, and how much the disease has spread. The information gleaned is relatively useless if the people are dead, isnt it?

On November 04 2010 08:20 KtheZ wrote:
Lets hope I got out of lurker status in time :/

On November 04 2010 08:59 KtheZ wrote:


Read from top up; After browsing through the last 20-30 pages, I find Pandain to be the most scummy right now. His last 2 notable posts are:
1.

I find it quite scummy how he is trying to give directions to the blue roles, while also trying to have the medics mass save this one person. He tries to cover this up by telling PM circles to coordinate, but he knows full well that several PM circles (fishball and bumatlarge for now) have gone to hell.

2. He made an enormous post about how Dr.H is oh so terrible and scummy (on page 109), but it seems apparent to me that Dr.H has already roleclaimed and proven (sorta, not 100% sure) that he is what he is. Also, Pandain has no evidence of being pro-town besides his extreme insistence of lynching the mayor.
3. He parrotted divinek (mafia) ---- Basically quoted from Dr.H

Basically, I think Pandain is mafia because of his insistence on assaulting Dr.H, but lacks comprehensive evidence that he is pro-town.
Pandain mentioned that he would have enough evidence to come forth on day 2 or day 3. Isn't that a blatantly obvious stall for time? If he is DT or ANYTHING he should be able to prove himself HERE and NOW, rather than need several days to compile evidence of his non-guilt. He basically took all the arguments about undefined role against him, and "postponed" them so that he could instead hound Dr.H on what HIS role is.

I'd prefer if someone proved me wrong, but this is what I managed to conclude after reading for like 20-30 minutes of the forum.

I may add more later.

I'd prefer if someone proved me wrong, but this is what I managed to conclude after reading for like 20-30 minutes of the forum.

On November 04 2010 09:04 KtheZ wrote:
Well I just made a post on why pandain, but please, ask me questions rather than tell me to explain myself; I dont really know what "explaining myself" involves saying.

On November 04 2010 09:06 KtheZ wrote:


Oh for realz? FML

Pandain tomorrow then!

On November 04 2010 09:37 KtheZ wrote:
kitaman we can BOTH DO PAGE 5 :D

but with all seriousness, how do I know which page is which O.o

On November 04 2010 10:03 KtheZ wrote:
Just finished looking at page 5. This included most of the shitstorm between Dr.H and pandain, as well as a TON OF NESTED QUOTES WITH PANDAIN IN IT.

What I CAN conclude is that youngminii was at odds with pandain. He noticed the Dr.H - pandain feud, and attacked pandain ( and Dr.H, but to a lesser extent).

Dinner time, bbl.

On November 04 2010 10:30 KtheZ wrote:
Pandain, anyone can scream unconfirmable role if they decide to roleclaim.
Why hasnt Dr.H?

And why are you the FIRST PERSON in the game to claim this?
Also, at least giving details on the CONDITIONS that need to be achieved so you can confirm your role would be nice, instead of this vague stuff we keep getting.

On November 04 2010 10:43 KtheZ wrote:


Basically, I'm bothered that you are claiming to have an "unconfirmable role" when noone else in the game has done this for an extended period of time.
Dr. H said this in the beginning (well, maybe), but nonetheless, we have a solid basis of what his role is.
Considering that you were being extremely anal over how Dr.H was not confirming his role, I find your stalling extremely scum-like.
Anyone is able to say that they have an unconfirmable role. What I am asking for is the details of the conditions you require to confirm your role. You said earlier that you had a way to confirm your role, but it has not occured yet. It would probably be best for town if we knew what this was, so we could confirm you as whoever you are.
There isn't a reason to hold this back; The simple details of WHAT YOU NEED TO CONFIRM YOUR ROLE is not enough to paint a target on you; I would say people like the ADD DT, Dr.H, etc are prime targets for a hit.

On November 04 2010 10:48 KtheZ wrote:
Since we have a claimed ADD detective, I find it HIGHLY unlikely there is ANOTHER TOWN ALIGNED RANDOM DETECTIVE.

On November 04 2010 10:56 KtheZ wrote:

The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know.
Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want.

EBWODP

On November 04 2010 11:05 KtheZ wrote:


Note that mafia also had their own plague doctor, so there may be role-checkers for the mafia also.
So the standings right now is that you claim to be Garbage collector, and your results have turned up OBVIOUSLY unconfirmable results (who in their right mind would say "I'm not safe omg")

On November 04 2010 11:17 KtheZ wrote:


Not necessarily. Let me correct myself.
I think you have a chance of being mafia because you claim an undoubtedly pro-town role, but we are still unable to confirm it in any way.

However, I am getting second thoughts, congrats.

On November 04 2010 13:02 KtheZ wrote:


How do we DT check you if we're not even sure if there is a DT that can target people? And how will he NOT reveal himself? There isnt (or i dont think) another circle with a confirmed DT that can do this, and if he does, well, mafia just got a prime rib course in their target buffet.

On November 09 2010 08:11 KtheZ wrote:


Why would you vote me? I'm the person who confirmed your role!
I DID correct myself, idk what you're saying.
I stopped voting nemesis, instead moving my vote to kitaman.
1.I'm about to die.
2.No, not until we had pointed out your mistake.
3.Ya, but why did you in the first time.

Also, to respond to a large portion of your analysis of me:

I did not want to confirm your role, because, as I have stated before, I did not want to roleclaim.
Does it really matter to me a LOT what your role name is, when I checked you and found you to be mafia? I was convinced that you were mafia, and that you were lying about WHAT your role could do (Note that I knew you didnt lie about your role).
But why woudl you say ITS UNCONFIRMABLE. When you had even checked me!

A lot of what you pointed out in your analysis was me trying to NOT indicate obvious detective-ness, such as my



I'm obviously making sure mafia doesn't suspect I'm a detective. it would be bad if I caught the attention of the mafia and got hit, wouldn't it?



Well, I was convinced your ROLE ACTION WAS NOT WHAT YOU CLAIMED. Notice that I keep asking for your ROLE ACTION.
no, several times you said just role.
"unconfirmable role"
"obviously lying about role."



No I have not realized I am insane; that was on the same day.
actually right about this one.

On November 09 2010 08:19 Glasse wrote:
oh god amberlight don't unvote ace, hes mafia i'd bet my dick on it :3

On November 09 2010 08:20 KtheZ wrote:



The simple response to almsot everything you say here is: I say your role is unconfirmable because THAT QUALIFIER IS NECESSARY for me so I can pretend I DO NOT HAVE A DT ROLE.
If I went up and said your role action is unconfirmed, but your role is confirmed, doesnt that absolutely SCREAM that I am a DT?