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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 23 2010 04:07 GMT
#2522
Hmm looks like I survive for now.

Looks like we need to lynch another vampire today

Anyways, I'm not gonna analyze the new clues yet but from the old ones I think it's time HeavOnEarth finally gets the attention that he needs.

Seems hittegod turned out to be innocent, there's a fair chance that that clue refers to HeavOnEarth. There are also various clues referring to him if you read my previous clue analysis.
Also HeavOnEarth voted for veldril day 1 along with other vampires.

Hopefully that is enough to convince everyone as I don't want to make another long post >.<
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 23 2010 04:37 GMT
#2526
Lol those are so far off, you guys suck at clue analysis, here is something for the hole until I feel motivated enough to do a full analysis.
HeavOnEarth -
"And bury you in a coffin made of your
A coffin made of your deceptions"

How many clues do we need pointing to HeavOnEarth before we finally lynch him, he's survived 3 days worth of lynching so far
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 23 2010 18:03 GMT
#2537
Hahaha I wonder how they found out Aeres was mafia. There are no clues pointing to him at all.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 24 2010 02:51 GMT
#2546
Although, I do agree with your analysis, I think it would be better to vote for HeavOnEarth right now. But they're both good lynch targets.

I'll post my analysis on why HeavOnEarth is as good a target after this.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 24 2010 03:28 GMT
#2548
Hmm actually nvm, I was just rereading the clues and I am not so sure anymore about HeavOnEarth. Well I am unsure of whether or not he is a mafia or vampire that is.

In the first day, there are two possible clues that could refer to HeavOnEarth

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In the town plaza, Qatol was having a midnight jog. The Simon Belmont Fountain (named in honor of the vampire slayer who ended Dracula's reign over Liquidvania) calmed him and helped him forget about his stressful job and the everyday woes of being a human in a town full of monsters. Tired, he sat for a break on a bench. Before long a shadowy figure came to sat next to him.

Qatol turned to the tall man "Hey stranger, out for a nice run too?"

The tall man didn't answer. Qatol felt uncomfortable and stood up to leave. Right before he stepped off the stranger grabbed the back of his shirt. Qatol turned around to defend himself but was met with a hammer. The silver instrument bashed his skull to pieces and the tall figure laughed maniacally as Qatols head crumbled into dust.

That part has been confirmed as a clue according to pandain. Notice that the hammer is not really part of the clue, so I don't think it really applies to glasse.

So for silver instrument this people come up:
1. MetalFace Doctor doom holding a silver instrument
2. YummyBlaBla - Kurby with a silver cooking pan.

The clue could also be the "bashed his skull to pieces" or "head crumbled to dust." I found 1 people that could relate to that.
1. HeavOnEarth - "Break every bone in your face If you mess with my life" That is a quote from his profile.

All in all, I would suggest to the mad scientist to confirm which part of the clue is the actual clue which would narrow it down nicely.

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Meeple liked to spend his evenings drinking and gambling at the "Indian Burial Ground Casino". After a particularly long night of drinking and wasting his money he stumbled into the alley behind the casino to vomit. When he turned back there was a man blocking his path.

"hey buddy...cud'ya move please..?" meeple stammered drunkenly.

"Can you hear it? The wind is speaking. It's telling me to do bad things. Very bad things."

"Shudda fuk up..." Meeple spat at the cloaked figure. The man merely smiled and pulled a small hatchet out from inside his coat. He hacked away at Meeples skull, leaving him to die in a pool of his own vomit.

The first thing in here that could be a clue is "The wind is speaking" which could refer to 2 people:
1.HeavOnEarth - "The cooler weather makes me unspeakably happy..."
2.Deconduo - A picture of a sailboat. Sailboats are directed by wind, where the wind goes the sailboat goes which could be "it's telling me" part.

Next, I looked for a hatchet, but unfortunately I couldn't find anything in anyone's profile.

Now among the dead vampires, I am sure that two of the clues relate to: Masq, and kingjames01.

Now as there are 3 vampire KP per day, that would mean that there is 1 vampire left. If the first clue that I quoted actually refer to MetalFace, then that would mean that those are the three of the vampires for that day. If that is so, and the second clue that I quoted actually referred to HeavOnEarth, then that means that HeavOnEarth is a mafia instead of actually being a vampire.

Since there is the chance of HeavOnEarth actually being a mafia, I would actually go with glasse here as his clue is just as solid.


Here I'll do a thorough clue analysis on that clue so that everyone can see what glasse is talking about:
Aeres was walking through the park, away from the scene of a mafia brawl when he fell into a pit trap. His bones cracked and broke when he hit the floor, the fall was long. Whoever had dug it must have had a lot of time on their hands.

He heard sounds of crying around him. Was he alone down here? He cried for help only to hear his own echo. Dirt began to fall on his head, he realized that he was being buried alive. He screamed an awful scream as the dirt buried him, suffocating him, and ending his life.

kitaman27 - Here is his profile for those too lazy to click
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Epitaph-King Crimson

The wall on which the prophets wrote
Is cracking at the seams.
Upon the instruments of death
The sunlight brightly gleams.
When every man is torn apart
With nightmares and with dreams,
Will no one lay the laurel wreath
When silence drowns the screams.

Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
And laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.


Between the iron gates of fate,
The seeds of time were sown,
And watered by the deeds of those
Who know and who are known;
Knowledge is a deadly friend
When no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools.

Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
And laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.


Just notice the parts that I bolded from the clue and from his quote. I think you can easily connect the dots from here.

TlDR;
Lynch kitaman27
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 24 2010 04:19 GMT
#2552
On October 24 2010 12:58 SiNiquity wrote:
Dude wtf, there are 11 vampires total not 3. There are 5 vampires remaining and 4 mafia remaining based on my count from the previous page.

However, I think the clue is very fitting. Nice find.

Nono, I meant for the first day clue since vampires only have 3 kill points, that only 3 of the clues can point to vampires and the other 3 has to point to mafias.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 24 2010 04:25 GMT
#2555
Now that is some quality analysis from siniquity.

Now I'm starting to doubt my position again...hmm you know what I don't care either lynch is fine with me.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 24 2010 18:31 GMT
#2562
This is why I don't like analyzing posting behaviour and whether they are red or green from that, because it leads into a bit of a WIFOM.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 25 2010 11:44 GMT
#2615
I told you guys HeavOnEarth was mafia, that was why I wanted to lynch someone else
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 26 2010 04:19 GMT
#2637
HAHAHA I knew this was coming soon.

GG Townies win this round!

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 28 2010 22:33 GMT
#2743
Hahaha I knew that annul was the count, but deconduo revealed my pm's to annul about me suspecting him and thus I died

So now this is my I told you so moment

And the people who I was sharing my information with(ahem* decondou and glasse) didn't reveal that annul was the Count by revealing my plan of telling annul about zerroth(I figured it out by clues) and then protecting him. And indeed zerroth was attacked.

I didn't expect them to not reveal my information in case I died>.<

Anyways, well played by annul, if only townies looked a little deeper they might have won.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 28 2010 22:38 GMT
#2746
Ooh wtf I was killed by spydr, what reason would he have to kill me? :X
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 28 2010 22:40 GMT
#2747
Grr I can't believe I almost got annul and stupid mafia kills me and my allies go inactive
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 28 2010 22:53 GMT
#2753
On October 29 2010 07:51 Glasse wrote:
annul was obviously not town, meh. I was working with some peeps but i knew we had lost anyway

You could have just easily revealed my pms and town could have easily won
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 29 2010 00:19 GMT
#2765
I still don't get why you killed me.

I'm guessing you figured out I was blue from witch blocking me, but why did you wait so long to kill me if that is so?

Here are my pm's with glasse and deconduo.

This one is with glasse
+ Show Spoiler +
the night after i roleclaimed i didnt die, you never know what they think, nobody knows you're a ghost. idk if they will target you over obvious people.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
Since I'm pretty sure there are no other ghost around and that I've been poisoined I'll leave all my information to you. Do with it what you want. If you don't want to do anything, you can pass this info on to either Node or CubedIn as I trust that they are townies.

This one I would prefer if you keep out of public(if you are not planning on using this info I suggest passing it on to Node): First thing I want to tell you is that I was planning on claiming blue to annul next night phase so I can talk to mad scientist and have him check the bathroom clue(day 2 rotten smell) on annul because he seems very fishy to me. He was one of the people who voted for veldril in the beginning along with other vampires and did not vote for metalface who turned out to be vampire. Since dt has checked him, he might be vampire lord. Maybe, he is just actually stupid and not really a red though.

Here is a list of people I protected and their results:
Night 1:orgolove - it seems he was attacked the night phase, and it is most likely vampire as he was killed by vampire. If you guys need to look for additional vampire suspects look for people who attacked orgolove in day1 for his spreadsheet.
Night 2andain - I was told that I scared off a man with a weapon that came into his house but unfortunately, pandain left and never returned or something like that.
Night 3:CubedIn - It seems that I was roleblocked in Night 3 by the witch though. Good thing that he didn't get attacked that night. There is a possibility that the witch gets told that he successfully blocked me and thus knows I'm a blue and so mafia might try and kill me. So If I don't actually get killed by poison but still die, I was most likely killed by mafia
Night 4: Node - If there is a kill point missing this night. It means that someone most likely attacked him.


Last thing is on next day suspects for lynching:
Mafia - if townies needs to kill a mafia, I would suggest zerroth. Although MetalFace did indeed appeare scum, the clue should've cleared zerroth. But if you look again at the clue related to him, that armored person supposedly killed a vampire, and since MetalFace turned out to be a vampire it is impossible for the clue to relate to him. So in fact the town got lucky with MetalFace turning out to be a vampire XD. So only person left with impenetrable armor is zerroth. Furthermore, he voted for glurio day 2 to save his mafia buddy artanis.


Vampire - if townies need to kill a vampire, I would suggest lynching heavonearth. Several clues point to him and with the other people related to those clues dead, he is most likely a vampire. Furthermore, he voted for veldril day1.

Well that's it, and hopefully I don't die


+ Show Spoiler +
good to know, ill look foward to that

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
I have told annul, my suspected count about the zerroth clue and I am protecting zerroth for tonight, so if a KP is missing, vampires attacked zerroth and annul is indeed vampire lord.

And I finally had contact with MS and having ghrur checked for the freezing clues.


With deconduo
+ Show Spoiler +
Well we just need the one vamp tbh. Annul might know a lot of blues, but he cant start mass killing us without making it incredibly obvious. Gonna check the ghrur clue.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
Well I just wanted to suggest checking the freezing clue with ghrur.

Since the freezing killed NB, it is most likely vampire, and since 2 out of 3 of my suspects died, I think I'm pretty sure about him.

Another thing that I want to suggest is to check out annul, I think that he might be vampire lord. Notice how he hasn't voted for any known vampires at all. I'm not sure about this one that was why I also want it checked. Day 2 clue about rotten smell from bathroom.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From deconduo:
Clue checks so far:
-Silver hammer/instrument clue does not point to Glasse.
-Torn limb from limb, laid out in neat rows of 8 does not point to lucktar
-Thin, gaunt scholar does not point to Nemesis
-The kitten clue does point to BrownBear.

As you can see, most of the checks have been kinda useless unfortunately.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
So you were the Mad Scientist :X

What was that about not getting any names before? XD

I wanted to confirm a few clues for myself. But just in case that clue has already been checked, I want to know what you have checked so far.

In return, I guess I'll also tell you who I protected in previous days, although I'm not sure how you can use that information for yourself.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From deconduo:
Heard you wanted to talk to me from annul, whats up.


And I almost forgot that I also contacted annul to get more information out of him that I could use to incriminate him when day phase comes. I couldn't just incriminate him without solid evidence as he is trusted by his "town circle." But I died before I could do that
+ Show Spoiler +
From: annul [ 238 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: .
Date: 10/24/10 11:09
i will ask him if he wants me to reveal him to you.

but you should know that my MS was NOT DT checked, hence he is not a confirmed MS. i believe him, but it is not a guarantee.

i will still ask him for you.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
Can I have the name of the MS?

As you probably noticed, I am a bit obsessed with the clues and I would like to start working with MS as soon as possible

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
oh i misinterpreted what you meant by this message

you want to be checked tonight, yes? see i thought when you said roleclaim that you wanted to claim something, not ask to be blue checked. i get it, okay you will be checked tonight

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
Since I survived the night, I think it's time to roleclaim.

You have a mad scientist with you right?

I'd suggest that you keep my roleclaiming a secret and maybe even my role too except from the dt.


Ahem JoL and Frankenstein is the easiest to claim for count/godfather as they don't get any additional info from night phase that other blues get
+ Show Spoiler +
From: annul [ 238 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: .
Date: 10/26/10 05:37
i never said i was having you checked.

i said i would let you know if we chose you. you arent the only one who came to us. and now with one of my DTs modkilled i want people to claim early.

you probably will NOT be who my second DT checks, by the way.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
I thought you were having me dt checked tonight.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
i claimed in the thread like 10 days ago

i am a JOL.

what are you? you have not told me your role yet either.


-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
btw I'm just curious what is your role?
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 29 2010 00:21 GMT
#2767
On October 29 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it was not smart to roleclaim when you did

town could have won pretty easily if you didn't rc

I think that vampires already knew he was mafia anyway as he was hit before.
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 00:40:48
October 29 2010 00:33 GMT
#2772
On October 29 2010 09:25 annul wrote:
nemesis: the "i will have you checked" inconsistency was a blunder on my part, but i had told many people who asked to be blue checked that i would let them know if we chose them, and i figured i told you that too, which i didnt

furthermore, we were going after zerroth anyway even without you pointing him out to me. so if you "proved" my vampire lord role from that, you'd have lucked into it and would have been right, but for the wrong reason.

I had plenty of other arguments that I was planning to use besides that, but you can call it the meat of my sandwich.

Edit: Such as the aeres incident with kitaman. I don't know how people missed that. Especially when kitaman said he pmed someone about checking Aeres and then he died the next night phase, and since you were the only one who publicly claimed that he knew dts, you were really the only one he could have pmed. Although that pm didn't exist at all.
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 29 2010 02:32 GMT
#2789
Hahaha yeah, Divinek was the only vampire that I actually didn't suspect. He somehow escaped my radar
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