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On October 20 2010 14:34 annul wrote:
okay
the blue we checked was node. node has confirmed that what the DT saw was, in fact, correct. he is now a part of our town circle.
he doesn't want to reveal exactly what flavor of blue he is.
node should post soon confirming what i am saying here.
we need (at least~) one more blue to be checked. PM me please.
Why in the hell would you reveal to the entire town the name of a blue?
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On October 20 2010 14:44 Node wrote:
I'm posting now to vouch for annul. He is the real thing and his DT is the real thing. I don't know if there's much more I can say other than that.
Clearly, at this point the town could use some organization. We can win this thing and have what we need to come out ahead. There are a bunch of suspicious people around, and I feel with a bit of thought we can lynch a guaranteed red at the end of the day. Both the mafia and the vampires are down to 2 KP. It's time to take control.
Trust annul. The town needs something to tie us together.
How the hell are you ok with being outted as a blue?
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you don't think scum would like to kill players who are actively trying to kill them?
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You guys seriously blow my mind. I don't know how to even respond to this insanity.
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Just did some analysis on every flipped scum:
VAMPS:
bumatlarge - Voted for Veldril, then switched to maq. Died night 1
Attacked: No one Defended: No one
masq - Voted for Veldril, died day 1
Attacked: No one Defended: Veldril
youngminii: Voted for jodogohoo, then switched to veldril. Died night 1
Attacked: Aztro Defended: No one CONCLUSION: Aztro is likely not vamp
kingjames01 - voted veldril day 1, veldril day 2, jcarlsoniv day 3. Died night 3
Attacked: Bill Murray Defended: no one CONCLUSION: jcarlsoniv is likely not vamp
thegilaboy - voted veldril day 1, veldril day 2, artanis day 3. Died night 3
Attacked: No one Defended: no one
MAFIA:
NB - voted Seraph then switched to Veldril day 1. Died night 1
Attacked: jodogohoo and was suspicious of a bunch of already dead people
Defended: Maybe heavonearth...it was kind of indirect
BrownBear - subbed in day 2, voted for veldril day 2. Died night 2
Attacked: All lurkers and pandain Defended: no one
CONCLUSION: this is something that's been getting to me, but no mafia has been modkilled. Therefore I don't think the lurkers are more likely to be scum, and his attack of lurkers helps fortify this...at least they're not mafia anyways
Lexpar - Voted Veldril day 1, veldril day 2, veldril day 3. Died night 3
Attacked: Bill murray Defended: no one
Conclusion: He did not give a reason for his vote on heavonearth. It's likely he was just going with the clue. This makes heavonearth very unlikely to be mafia
Artanis - day 2 voted veldril, day 3 voted glurio. Died night 3
Atacked: Cubedln, Nemesis came to Cube's defense as well and Artanis had an exchange of words with him.
Defended: no one
Conclusion: Cube and Nemesis are very likely not mafia
SO, conclusions from this analysis:
kingjames and thegilaboy were both trying to get people off clue analysis. Kingjames even came out to say that we should arbitrarily go after anyone investigating clues. I think the choices we've been saying, especially with day 2 clues, are likely vamps. We should stick to our guns.
EVERY SINGLE FLIPPED VAMPIRE VOTED FOR VELDRIL ON DAY 1...I Will do vote analysis in my next post. I think every vamp in the game voted for veldril.
BrownBear posted a few times on how lurkers are where we should be looking for scum. This makes me much more inclined to believe the active posters are the ones we should look at for mafia, not the lurkers.
thegilaboy posted publicly that he doubts there are any more vampire brutes (LOL WIFOM)
in my opinion, jcarlsoniv and aztrorisk are 99% not vampires. Heavonearth, nemesis, and Cubeldin are 99% not mafia.
Vote analysis next up
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The only lynch analysis I'm gonna look at is for Veldril day 1. Bandwagons onto townies really doesn't tell us much.
Veldril - 16 - Lucktar, YummyBlaBla, kenpachi, annul, youngminii, southrawrea, Masq, grandmoose, HeavOnEarth, oddo123, thegilaboy, kingjames01, Lexpar, MetalFace, Bill Murray, NB
Also bumatlarge changed his vote last minute. Jaminz also changed his vote off Veldril to bill murray, jcarlsoniv changed his vote to masq
Lucktar, YummyBlaBla, youngminii, masq, thegilaboy, kingjames01, lexpar, bill murray, and NB are all dead, that leaves us:
kenpachi, annul, southrawrea, grandmoose, heavonearth, oddo123, metalface, jcarlsoniv, and jaminz
if my counting skill are correct, there are 6 vampires left.
At one point, masq and veldril were neck and neck. I guarantee every vampire was on veldril day 1 to defend their scum buddy. No one switched until it was obvious that masq pulled ahead, which is when bumatlarge changed, jaminz changed. jcarlsoniv changed earlier in the thread...plus I Don't think jcarlsoniv is vamp because of kingjames' vote.
If any of these players have been subbed for I'm not sure because I can't find it in the thread.
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currently mafia is ahead 7 to 6. I'd kinda want to just leave the mafia to kill these players and try to lynch mafia, but they've been doing a much better job of not being transparent...I'm inclined to follow the hittegod lead, especially since a lot of players have been coming to his defense.
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On October 21 2010 17:08 Hittegods wrote:
Alright, seems like the old bandwagon is about to take another toll on the townies, me =(. I thought we had learned something and were supposed to go after shady behavior as much, or more, as for clues. Especially since that strategy we've been using is really easy for scum to handle, wait for someone to be pointed out and the just quietly bandwagon, no need to ever post and make yourself look suspicious.
I suspect you more that people have to come to your clue defense than really the clue itself.
And if we've learned anything, its that clue lynching is a lot better than analysis...artanis was scum, brownbear was scum, masq was scum, kingjames was scum.
Yes we learned something. Obvious clues are awesome
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annul, cube, and spydr are the ones who have defended hittegods clue analysis, although annul has changed his vote to pm land I guess.
It's more defense than I've seen in other cases...also haven't heard an alternative from hittegod yet.
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I think spydr's is the most suspicious defense of him honestly. Very likely scum if hittegods is
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although not really sure why hittegods would be the vampire lord. He hasn't been especially active or anything. I would think Node would be a better candidate out of the two people that who've blue claimed to you. He's much more noticable.
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Just remember that an active vampire is much more likely to be the vampire lord. They're not exactly going to vote in a lurker.
NB was active day 1 and he's the one who got elected on the mafia side. Hittegod being a vampire lord is unlikely, but being scum I agree on. Don't vote him because you think he's a vampire lord, but because you think he's scum.
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metalface, kenpachi, and grandmoose I'm pretty certain are vamps from my analysis.
As for mafia, that's a bit tougher. I think hittegods is scum and I'm liking the obvious clue on him. I think the lurkers are more indicative of townies than scum, and that he scum are more active than people think because of Brownbears posting. I need to look at who defended Artanis' clue analysis and went after glurio instead...I think that's the biggest clue to who is mafia right now
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also I'd rather vote a mafia today, and leave the mafia to kill the vamps. That's why I'm not voting for anyone I think is a vamp
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defending veldril isn't indicative of anything. He flipped town.
Clue analysis is vague at best. There really isn't a reason to defend someone for clues. The only time I've seen anyone do it is people that keep flipping scum.
Go ahead and go through every flipped scum's posts. It took me two hours. They defend their scum buddies clues. There's really no reason to do this if you are a townie, unless you are arguing that something else is a clue.
Saying a clue isn't a clue because it's obvious is suspicious at worst, scum defending at best.
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On October 21 2010 18:53 annul wrote:
so then you actually want to kill hittegods, KK?
I think the clue points straight to him. I voted for him. so yes you could I guess infer that I want to lynch him.
I just don't think he's the vamp lord
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On October 21 2010 18:55 spydR wrote:
Have you seen the 2 Town lynches from bandwagoning or have you had your eyes closed? You've seen the voting thread already, and it's looking like Hittegods is the next on the line-up
I never said the clue wasn't a clue because it's obvious. I said the clue matched - however there was a significant part of that clue that doesn't. Don't twist my words.
"the tall figure laughed maniacally as Qatols head crumbled into dust." - Day 1
"his killer laughing maniacally as he bashed kingjames' skull to pieces with the bat." - Day 4
Guess it's time to hop on the bandwagon though, because thanks to this, there's zero discussion about anyone else
my apologies, it was annul that was saying it was too obvious it was a clue. I reread and got you guys mixed up.
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I looked through Hittegods post history and found this:
On October 18 2010 02:04 Hittegods wrote:
The clues against Artanis did indeed seem rock solid, until the fact that he wasn't in the game on day one was accounted for. I was looking through profiles for clues relating to the neat 8s, but only found one profiles containing numbers, which were repeated seven times and not dividable by 8, so no luck there.
So although later he switched to artanis, he also started posting a shit ton on glurio and possible clue posts for him. He helped glurio's lynch while staying on artanis.
It's not rock solid, but his defense of "I Went after a mafia and a vamp" is not as true as he makes it seem
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I think hittegods is more likely flip mafia than vamp imo
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ha now that I think about it node might not be the vamp lord if activity was a factor. He wasn't around for day 1 like me
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