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On October 18 2010 12:30 kitaman27 wrote:Quality analysis. Looking back, here is one thing that should be added to the list. Show nested quote +On October 18 2010 11:49 Nemesis wrote:In a nearby cafe Korynne was enjoying a late coffee. She had just got off a very long shift at the Alfred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital and needed the energy just to make the drive home. There was only one other person in the cafe and she couldn't help but get a weird feeling from him. As she left the cafe and got into her car she could sense he was following her. She drove for a long distance and when she stopped in her driveway she could swear she heard a noise in the backseat. She looked behind her and saw nothing. Her mind was playing tricks on her.
She turned her head back to find something much worse. The man from the cafe was sitting in the passenger seat of her car and had a gun pressed to her temple. The gunshot was silenced, her body wouldn't be found until the morning. This one, I tried finding a connection to coffee and hospital but couldn't find anything in anyone's profile. That clue seemed to be the least obvious to me, but coffee and "Aflred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital" were the two things that stood out. I couldn't find anything to do with coffee either, but I discovered something that may have to do with the second part. In deconduo's profile there is a poem: Show nested quote +S`io credesse che mia risposta fosse A persona che mai tornasse al mondo, Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse. Ma perciocchè giammai di questo fondo Non tornò vivo alcun, s'i'odo il vero, Senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo. I typed it into google and the first link that came up was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Song_of_J._Alfred_PrufrockAlfred Hitchcock.....Alfred Prufrock? I think it is unlikely that it is a mere coincidence. Actually, I just did a quick google into Alfred Hitchcock. Apparently he's a movie director. So that could actually be a clue that could relate to someone's profile as someone's bound to have a quote or something based on a movie that Alfred Hitchcock directed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock#1940s_films
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On October 18 2010 17:30 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2010 13:07 Nemesis wrote:On October 18 2010 12:30 kitaman27 wrote:Quality analysis. Looking back, here is one thing that should be added to the list. On October 18 2010 11:49 Nemesis wrote:In a nearby cafe Korynne was enjoying a late coffee. She had just got off a very long shift at the Alfred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital and needed the energy just to make the drive home. There was only one other person in the cafe and she couldn't help but get a weird feeling from him. As she left the cafe and got into her car she could sense he was following her. She drove for a long distance and when she stopped in her driveway she could swear she heard a noise in the backseat. She looked behind her and saw nothing. Her mind was playing tricks on her.
She turned her head back to find something much worse. The man from the cafe was sitting in the passenger seat of her car and had a gun pressed to her temple. The gunshot was silenced, her body wouldn't be found until the morning. This one, I tried finding a connection to coffee and hospital but couldn't find anything in anyone's profile. That clue seemed to be the least obvious to me, but coffee and "Aflred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital" were the two things that stood out. I couldn't find anything to do with coffee either, but I discovered something that may have to do with the second part. In deconduo's profile there is a poem: S`io credesse che mia risposta fosse A persona che mai tornasse al mondo, Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse. Ma perciocchè giammai di questo fondo Non tornò vivo alcun, s'i'odo il vero, Senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo. I typed it into google and the first link that came up was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Song_of_J._Alfred_PrufrockAlfred Hitchcock.....Alfred Prufrock? I think it is unlikely that it is a mere coincidence. Actually, I just did a quick google into Alfred Hitchcock. Apparently he's a movie director. So that could actually be a clue that could relate to someone's profile as someone's bound to have a quote or something based on a movie that Alfred Hitchcock directed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock#1940s_films the fact you had to google to figure that out terrifies me Hahahaha, I have very little knowledge of anything mainstream except for anime XD
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Grrr it seems that no one is listening to my post about the obvious clue against kingjames01.
Well since day phase is ending in around 2 hours, I don't think many people will change their vote now. And it seems like my post is rather getting ignored too.
Artanis clue to me seems as obvious as kyplosis clue or whoever is that guy is with the big cat. It seems like an obvious red herring, and I would rather not vote based on a clue that could point to multiple people.
I am going to change my vote back to HeavOnEarth as it seems that there's nothing I can do to change people's mind in 2 hours to change their vote from HeavOnEarth, glurio, and Artanis. I feel like the inactive people are REALLY DRAGGING us down.
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I agree that we do need a leader of some kind. I don't mean the everyone follow everything he says blindly as leader, but more of a way to connect the blues to work together kind of leader.
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Here comes my Day 2 clue analysis
Somewhere deep in the town, bumatlarge was sitting alone at a bar at midnight. He wasn't alone, there was another man sitting in the corner. The man stared at bum, making him nervous and jittery. As he started pounding down more drinks the man approached him. He was thin and gaunt, he appeared to be a scholar of some sort. The man finally spoke
"Excuse me sir, I believe you've had too much to drink. Do you need a ride home?"
bumatlarge chuckled to himself. He'd just have to accept the ride and he could kill this odd stranger with his pure brute strength.
"Yes, I do." Bum smirked. Surely this thin man would be no match for the vampire brute.
As bumatlarge stepped into the mans car, he began to laugh. But he wasn't laughing when a revolver was pressed against his temple. With one shot, his brains were sprayed out of the window of the car and it drove off into the night never to be seen again. First thing that stands out to me is "scholar of some sort." But this is also a very vague statement in my opinion as many people can be a scholar at something. 1. a learned or erudite person, esp. one who has profound knowledge of a particular subject. 2. a student; pupil. Thin and gaunt can basically be discarded as a clue as most deaths seem to have that.
Can musicians be considered scholar? If so, lots of people can be added to the list(I'm disregarding it as I don't want to list 10 people)
If it follows the student definition, it means that a lot of people are basically suspected as most people here are in college or high school I presume. But only people in college put something in their profile as college students, and here they are: 1.grandmoose - Majoring in Math. 2.jcarlsoniv - Double Major in Math and Business. 3.MetalFace - Economics 4.LuckTar - Philosphy
Additional things besides being a student that could relate to being a scholar(a bit of a long shot): 5.kingjames01 - Apparently his name "King James I" is considered scholar in real life. 6.quickstriker - Picture of Lelouch <3. Lelouch is an extremely smart guy so he might be considered a scholar. 7.Nemesis - I can't be biased now, same thing as quickstriker.
Now that we have the scholar part is over, the next thing that stood out to me is "began to laugh" so that infers that something looks funny, maybe the car. This one I had a rather hard time finding anything. The closest thing I could find is the troll face: 8.KtheZ - Still a bit of a long shot though.
Now the other thing is that this seemed to happen "inside" the car once again. "Stepped into the man's car." Although, there are lots of deaths around cars, there is only two deaths that actually happen inside the car. This and the silenced gunshot death. 9.kenpachi - Only person with something in his profile relating to a car. Next closest thing is a "train" which is a very long shot.
In summary, I hate this clue. It is too vague and points to too many people. I would suggest narrowing it down first by checking the "scholar" part first which would remove more than half the suspects. And I suggest that someone do a follow-up analysis on this clue after that had been done.
A few miles east of that bar, LSB was lurking the Liquidvanian pumpkin patch. He happened across a huge pumpkin. It would be perfect for a bomb! Excited, LSB took the pumpkin and loaded it into his truck.
As he drove home he could have sworn he heard meowing somewhere in his car. He disregarded it at first, but as it grew louder he stopped his truck and got out to inspect it. As he peered in the window of his backseat he felt what seemed to be huge claws dig into his temple, crushing his skull and ending his life. As he bled to death on the floor, shards of his skull swimming around in his now liquified brain, he pressed a small button on his wrist: blowing up the pumpkin he had left at the home of youngminii. The "meowing" was confirmed as part of the clue according to someone in the thread and this pretty much points to brownbear who was killed by vampires during the night phase.
RebirthOfLeGenD had holed himself in his home, hoping to avoid the mass murders that were occuring across liquidia. As he sat spinning about in his computer chair, he smelled something awful coming from his restroom. The smell made his eyes well up with tears and he rushed to the bathroom to see what it is and hopefully clean it up.
A man stood in his bathroom, wearing a pinstriped fedora. Rebirth tried to flee but a bullet met the back of his skull before he could take two steps out of the way. For this I checked two things. First, is the something awful coming from the restroom. 2 People came up in my search: 1.kingjames01 - Zombie picture. Zombies have rotten flesh and rotten anything smells awful as hell. 2.=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=annul]annul - Pun on name? anus, something awful from the bathroom. Can Dr H confirm if username can be used as part of the clue?
The other part that stood out to me is the pin-striped fedora. Now there was no one in particular that had a fedora in their profile but these are the connections that I got: 1.Aeres - picture of a mafia(someone confirm this?) in his profile. Not necessarily fedora but mafias are known for wearing fedoras. 2.kingjames01 - His zombie profile has a hat, even though it is not necesseraly a fedora. 3.YummyBlaBla - This one is the LOOSEST correlation ever, I am just being extra careful with not excluding possible clues, but basically "striped" tiger in profile.
This is not really conclusive as it points to 3 to 4 people. I would suggest that the mad scientist try and find the real clue here.
Somewhere deep in the mafia headquarters, NB was sitting at his desk. The mafia were slowly rising up in the town of Liquidvania and he was quite pleased with himself. As he chuckled and drank whiskey he began to feel a chill across his skin. He looked to the window to make sure it wasn't left open but it was closed. The chill began to grow into a freezing cold and he could feel his heart slowing down. Eventually it stopped beating. Before he died a gaunt and pale man appeared before him. "This town belongs to the Count." the man snarled at him. With a single punch, NB's body was shattered to pieces. For this death, there are only 2 possible clues here: Whiskey or alcohol, and "Chill" or something "Icy" seeing as "body was shattered to pieces" basically means his body was frozen. For alcohol, I couldn't really find anything in anyone's profile. For ice, a couple of people come up: 1. HeavOnEarth - "The cooler weather makes me unspeakably happy..." 2. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ghrur] - "The man gazed into the snow." 3. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Lucktar] - A Polar bear trying to eat apple frozen in ice for his picture.
For this one, I would suggest to Scientist to try and relate the clue to a specific person.
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On October 20 2010 07:56 annul wrote: "CLEARLY SARCASM"
i love that defense
i read your entire post, i just filter the relevant information I thought he was the romanian one here XD
On October 20 2010 01:34 CubEdIn wrote:I propose me as leader and we just take random shots at people I find suspicious (like lack of posts, funny names, "feels like a red"). I bet we'll do better than we did so far.  Tell me if that sounds like a serious post.
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I am more or less posting clue analysis to help the mad scientist and to check if a clue only points to one person like masq, then we can use it to lynch someone. Right now, there is only one clue that could point to one person and that is the clue for kingjames01 in day 1.
Kenpachi's clue in day 1 is also alone in my previous post, but I felt that my analysis about that clue was a bit lacking as I now realized that "silenced gunshot" can also point to multiple people.
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Night phase will be ending soon, after I see the results I will sleep.
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Damn, now that's a good night phase, the clues this time are a lot more straightforward.
Also, Doctor H, can clues be related to someone's username?
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If you count the number of deaths, there are 5 mafia/vampire kills, 1 poison death, and 1 lantern death. Which means that there is still one KP missing. As it turns out, kingjames01 is the poison fang, and since I advocated for his death, I feel like I've been poisoned. :X Ghost save me! 
At CubedIn. I wouldn't be too quick to judge with the red eyes thing as last time there was a "red glow" and it turned out to be just a filler and the real clue was the invisible part(thegilaboy). There is also the "sound of metal dragging" as part of the clue.
I really doubt that "stain hands" can be used as a reference to claws as the person who said that is the character in my profile and he doesn't have claws. The red killing red as a subtle part is pretty cool though.
Another thing I would like to note of is the impenetrable armor. MetalFace - also notice the silver instrument.
I'll do a more detailed analysis later on, but right now I think the most obvious clue are the hittegod and metalface one.
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It seems that we are finally having some constructive analysis here.
Thumbs up to you KhrisKruel and hypberbola!
It seems that the most obvious reds are most likely vampires. I think it would be more beneficial to lynch a mafia today, but I don't really see any obvious mafia right now.
For now, I'll vote MetalFace as the clue pointing to him killed a vampire so most likely he is mafia. I might change my vote later after I have done my own analysis if I have time, or after you guys are done with your analysis.
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Here comes my 1000th post, and my 3rd and 4th day analysis 
Coagulation was walking down the road late at night, on his way to the home of a friend. While his feet clacked against the stone pavement he began to feel a light drizzle, cursing under his breath as he looked for something to duck under.
He sat under a stoop, clutching his brown bag of liquor, hoping the rain would end soon. The drizzle quickly became a storm and soon lightning followed it. A single bolt of lightning stuck the ground in front of coag, illuminating a huge man in front of him.
"Why don't you get under here? You must be soaked..." Coagulation said to the stranger. The large man was silent in response. Coagulation decided to ignore him and wait the storm out with his bottle of "Wolfman's Full Moon Whiskey"
Coagulation heard a sound like metal scraping against the ground and he looked to the man who was holding a huge hammer. Coagulation's eyes widened in fear but he couldn't run before the huge hammer struck the side of his skull, crushing his head into a fine powder. Artanis - This one is pretty much confirmed with Artanis dead and red.
Somewhere across the way, Pandain was running for his life. He was being chased by two men through the Liquidvanian Central Park, trying desperately to weave through the trees. The smaller of the two men was craft, he predicted every move Pandain would make before he made it. His larger companion bumbled through the forest, running into trees and stumbling on wet mud.
Pandain finally ducked under a brush, feeling safe. He said a prayer to himself and tried his best to be quiet. Quiet wasn't enough. There was a blindingly quick kick to his head, knocking him on his back and knocking him out cold. The small man sat on Pandain's back, driving his face deep into the mud. Pandain was brutally slain by the two, torn limb from limb. The town would find his body parts separated and left in neat rows of eight, covered in blood and mud. This one is a bit of a hard clue to disect. There are two people first of all as two people attacked Pandain. Most likely from the same team as they seemed to work together.
For the smaller one, it says he was craft and predicted and every move Pandain made, now this links to a couple of people: 1.chesshaha - Usename of chesshaha. Chess is a game which requires you to predict your opponent's every move. 2.quickstriker - Lelouch(his character profile) is someone who was known to be good at chess and wins battles by predicting every move his opponent move 3.Nemesis - Lelouch<3
For the larger one, it says "running into trees" that means that he is clumsy. So I looked for big and clumsy. I couldn't really relate anyone to big and clumsy, but for big a few people came up: 1.lankill - Picture of a giant killer ape and a small killer ape. 2.XeliN - Some kind of giant hulk like person as picture.
It says that there was a blindingly quick kick to the head: 1.quickstriker - "Quick Striker", "blindingly quick kick" see the connection? 2.oddo123 - Picture of soccer player in his profile.
Now the arranged in neat rows of eight, I thought about it for a while. At first, I could fine anyone with a special connection to the number eight. But then when I made the connection with chess as I used chessed before in this clue. I realized that chess is an 8x8 board, which once again brings us back to this suspects: 1.chesshaha - Usename of "chess"haha. 2.quickstriker - Lelouch(his character profile) is someone who is known to be good at chess and is also holding a king in the picture in his profile 3.Nemesis - Lelouch<3
BrownBear sat alone in his house, watching a movie in the dark. From the corner of his eye he saw a red glow in his yard. Figuring it was some sort of rodent pest, he went into the yard with a bat to scare the thing off. He shut the screen door behind him and turned on his flashlight. He saw nothing there and as he turned back to go inside he could hear footsteps run quickly behind him. He turned around and swung his bat but yet again there was nothing to be seen.
Frustrated and scared, he opened the door and took one step behind and was immediately crushed with a single blow to the back of the head. He would never see what killed him. This one is pretty much confirmed to be thegilaboy.
ShmotZ was floating wistfully across the streets of Liquidvania, looking for victims to scare. He found a thin and short man in an alleyway, the perfect victim.
BOO!
ShmotZ jumped around the corner, expecting to scare the pants off the man, but he was met with a steely gaze. The man smirked and jumped on ShmotZ, whipping a small axe out of his belt to slaughter him with. ShmotZ would never haunt again. Two things stand out to me in this clue: steely gaze and small axe
The steely gaze I thought was far too vague though. If you still want to know who came up even though I think it might not be too relevant here it is: 1. Neos - picture of a sunglass in his profile 2.http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hittegods]Hittegods[/url] - That looks like some sharp gaze to me.
Small axe seems like a solid clue. It seems that before there was also a hatchet which can be considered a small axe too. He also seems to use a belt which he places items on. Only one person came out in my search for an axe: 1.lankill - "I'm a computer science major and games besides starcraft that I enjoy are mostly older games like super metroid and golden axe, also some newer pc games."
Now on to Day 4 clues then
Artanis[Xp] was polishing his hammer in the garage when he heard a sound like metal dragging on the ground. He turned quickly toward the source of the noise, but saw nothing. He shrugged and continued working on his hammer when he felt something brush against his neck, it had fallen lightly on him from the ceiling. He looked up to see red eyes glowing back at him. His assailant dropped onto his body, rending his body with huge claws. He was found later that morning chained to the wall, his jaw removed from his skull. Metal dragging on the ground. Dragging means that it is something that is being carried. The closest thing I could find to that was this: SiNiquity - Picture of a robot in his profile. It could maybe "drag" its legs. Even though this is the closest that I found, I am still not convinced as the sound of metallic footsteps are different from being metal being dragged.
Something small fell on him. The only thing that came to mind here is this: Neos - picture of sunglasses. When you are hanging from the cieling it is only natural for your sunglasses to fall off.
And finally the red eyes: 1.quickstriker - Although lelouch's eyes are naturally purple, geass is reddish in color. 2.Nemesis - same as the above one.
I disregarded the "claws" as claws seem to be apparent in the killings even though in previous cases it had no connection at all to the person.
I would suggest to the mad scientist to confirm if the red eyes are indeed part of the clue.
Lucktar was spending the evening drinking away at a club. He tried unsucessfuly to gain the attention of some of the better looking women, scaring them off with his sleazy one liners and caked on cologne. He made his way to the bathroom that night, but he would never leave.
He shut the door of the bathroom behind him and turned to face a huge man. He felt a sense of impending dread, as though his life would end soon. The gigantic man grabbed him by the shoulders and delivered a headbutt so powerful it caved in the top of Lucktar's skull. He died slowly and painfully on the floor of a dirty bar restroom, a fitting end for a creep. A gigantic man with a powerful headbutt. 1.oddo123 - As been mentioned by someone previously, there was a headbutt incident in soccer where one person got seriously injured because of a headbutt. 2.Xelin - A headbutt by that big guy in his profile would seriously hurt. 3.[urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=grandmoose]grandmoose[/url] - This one is I think a bit far off as the person seemed to die from physical strength not horns, but basically a picture of a moose. A moose with its horn can probably kill a person with its headbutt.
It was a quiet night at the Mothman Movie Theatre and thegilaboy was the only person in attendance for a midnight screening of The Rocky Horror Picture show. Or so he thought. The movie ended and he walked down the stairs of the dark theatre room, hearing a clanking behind him.
He turned to see an enormous shadow. Feeling threatened, thegilaboy leaped out and struck the large figure. Even though he possessed superhuman strength, the bones of his fist broke easily as he punched what seemed to be impenetrable armor. The figure simply picked thegilaboy off the ground and snapped his neck with one hand. He was found sitting upright in a chair with both of his eyes missing. Impenetrable Armor where human bones easily break. At first this seemed like an obvious clue. But a second look shows that it is indeed obvious, but I actually found 2 people instead of the 1 that I was expecting relating to this clue: 1.MetalFace - Picture of doctor doom in his profile who is wearing a thick layer of armor 2.zerroth - He has an Alphonse Elric quote in his profile. Alphonse Elric had his soul transferred to an armor.
kingjames01 had returned home that night. He was tired from a long night of dastardly deeds and was ready to retire to his coffin. Out of the corner of his eye, he noticed a small piece of furniture in his den had moved. Curious he walked toward it, unaware of the man hiding around the corner.
He moved the chair back to its place and was then struck in the back of the head by a baseball bat. He crumpled to the floor, his killer laughing maniacally as he bashed kingjames' skull to pieces with the bat. With this clue there are only 2 people who comes into mind: 1.Hittegods - Picture of a guy holding a baseball bat 2.HeavOnEarth - "Break every bone in your face" once again.
YummyBlaBla made a late night stop at the pharmacy for some pain medication. He was walking back to his truck in the dark parking lot when he heard a roar. The loud noise startled him. There are no lions or tigers in Liquivania, but what was waiting for him was much worse. He hurriedly made his way into the truck, but an arm grabbed him from the back and pulled him out. He felt a knife stab into the back of his neck and as soon as he died, his attacker had fled the scene. A loud roar it seems. But nothing related to lions or tiger. These are the two closest things that I could find: 1.kitaman27 - Picture of a person screaming, not sure if you could consider that a roar. 2. XeliN - Picture of a huge hulk like guy roaring.
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Right now I'm debating to myself whether to vote for HeavOnEarth or keep my vote on MetalFace. Voting for HeavOnEarth would clear whether that clue is referring to HeavOnEarth or hittegod, and it would also clear up a lot of clues related to him so NO NEED for dt check.
MetalFace on the otherhand would do the same except between him and zerroth.
Bandwagoning against hittegod at this point is I think extremely risky. We have already lost quite a lot of active members, and it would hurt townies if they lost even more active members. On the otherhand, if you vote one of the inactive ones with a strong clue against them like HeavOnEarth and MetalFace, it wouldn't matter whether they are townies or not as they were not contributing anything anyways.
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DAMN that's a lot of players getting modkilled :X
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On October 22 2010 11:55 KhrisKruel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2010 11:37 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah I thought about that as well, but the thing is, my whole "hatred" stands towards the silent people. The ones who don't post but vote. This is not a silent game, or at least it shouldn't be.
I voted for kenpachi, a little current started towards him and all of a sudden he wakes up from a 1-week slumber. There we go. There are still a lot more who deserve to die but unfortunately we can't double lynch. If we could, I'd go for clues+lurker, but since we can't, I'd rather go for clues, and MetalFace has a lot pointing at him. I seriously doubt that after 4 days of play a lurker is suddenly going to start posting. What's to say he just goes right back to doing what he's been doing all game? Are we gonna wait for a day during day 5 then be like "well that was his last warning, everyone vote for him." No, cause we're gonna find other people to lynch. Kenpachi will be forgotten again. He only shows up to the thread whenever someone says his name. Think about that. Whenever someone says his name. He's lying about not paying attention. He's actively lurking. This won't change, it's a way for scum to avoid detection. Who said that we have to forget people we were suspicious about. I'm still suspicious of HeavOnEarth(since day2) and I still want to lynch him.
Annul can check if that car clue really refers to Kenpachi too using Mad Scientist.
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Hahaha, I can't believe I was right about Neos and chesshaha too 
At first, I was even doubting myself putting Neos in the suspect list, but looks like I was right.
Once again, I am asking the ghost to PROTECT ME as I have most likely been poisoned the night before by kingjames01 as a KP is missing and I was the one that revealed him as red.
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On October 22 2010 15:30 KhrisKruel wrote: I'm not happy with this game right now. I'll see you guys in day 5 Hmm not happy with having 3 reds killed, sounds suspicious.
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DoctorH, can you update the OP with who is left alive in the game and the final votes too from today?
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ok just to let everyone now, I have left my death post with glasse
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On October 23 2010 12:40 Hyperbola wrote: I think the mafia/vampires are not going to target town, instead they are going to target each other for the next few days. Think about it: if either side starts to kill town instead of killing off mafia then they are only putting themselves at a disadvantage because for all they know the other side is hunting them. It would take 2-3 nights for vampires and mafia to even up the scales between scum and town. And this is assuming they hit with every one of their kp flawlessly, work in a communion, and have no members lynched or mod-killed. An alliance would solve this, but forming alliances now would be too risky for both sides. Therefore, the only logical conclusion in my point of view is to have both sides race to the finish. Either way, if town plays really carefully now and everyone votes, we have a high chance of winning. Pretty much this, townies have best chance of winning right now
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