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On October 12 2010 14:34 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 14:26 QuickStriker wrote:
That being said, since I don't know if I'll be around to finish my voting, I'm going to decide now and make a vote so I don't get modkilled. Since I'm not convinced at the moment to follow bandwagon of the two main candidate, I'm going to go with my gut feeling with who I think should be dead. I choose you thegilaboy! (Personal grudge) Just wanted to restate what I said here. Thegilaboy, if you were here, it's just nothing personal.... it's to settle our unfinished duel... :D
You're a dick 
Man there is a lot of spam on this board, some people really need to tone down on the useless one-liners with no substance. Anyway, I tried catching up this morning, after wading through a lot of shit:
Orglove is either a very enthusiastic townie, or he is a red trying to hold the reigns over a lot of newbies who will come to rely on his spreadsheet and and what I'll call "assessments." Spreadsheets are very useful, but you posting yours in every post is actually revealing information you should keep to yourself at times. But hey, you could be a very active townie and I might be off on my suspicions, I just think you might want to tone down on the spreadsheet since it has been found to be incorrect three times now I believe.
I know we really want to get our first day's lynch in order since the hours are winding down, but that also means the hours are winding down on any coordination of our blue roles. I believe Pandain is attempting to coordinate MH placements, which can be a good thing for town even if he is red I suppose since he will be gunning for the other red team. Aztorisk may have jumped the gun on his role claim so early on, but that was partially due to the fact that the rules/descriptions weren't as clear as there are now. I know BM has been throwing around some ideas for Ghost placement in terms of the Masq/Veldril thing, anyone else have a thought on that?
Anyway, back to rereading the last few pages again
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On October 13 2010 13:41 aztrorisk wrote:
Doctor H, how much longer must you torture us?
What exactly are you waiting for?
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On October 13 2010 13:43 aztrorisk wrote:
when do we get the results?
Of the night? Night lasts 24 hours dude, we don't get results daybreak
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Are we allowed discussion at night DrH? Most games don't allow it, I just wanted to make sure
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On October 13 2010 14:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 14:43 Thegilaboy wrote:
Are we allowed discussion at night DrH? Most games don't allow it, I just wanted to make sure Yes
Righteous.
If there really was a connection between Masq and Veldril, we should expect to see mafia gunning for him tonight in hopes of snagging another vamp kill. Hopefully if any of the replacements for modkills are blues that they have enough time to catch up and get their role actions in check, we can't afford to lose those opportunities after getting such a lucky lynch at the beginning of the game. Anyway, I must be off for now, catch up on some z's, you all have a good one
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On October 14 2010 10:10 Coagulation wrote:
plus another thing i noticed bill said he had 7 pages of pm's
i bet they are exchanges between mafia team.
cause there is no way in fuck town was rallying behind him.
so if he had that many pm's..
Yeah I really doubt he had that much of an involved town circle like he claimed to have. So either most of those PMs are from mafia (I say this because he specified the person he was going after was a vamp over and over) or he was just lying about the PMs and trying to sound important enough to be allowed to remain in the game
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On October 14 2010 10:12 kitaman27 wrote:
Is it safe to assume the players that just joined after the modkills absorb the role of the player they replaced?
Yeah they are assigned the role of the person they replace
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On October 14 2010 10:25 KhrisKruel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 10:09 NB wrote:
well he used the coffin reference.... and bill has been modkilled already.... hmm gues I'm confused. I didn't see any modkill references in the OP. If he's modkilled does he flip his role? from my understanding the only flipped role so far is Masq. Still catching up
He has been replaced, so someone else has his role now
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Holy fuck what an awesome night! Vamps are really hurting now, and we took care of the threat of the brute in the late game! So there were 4 actual hits and youngminii died by pumpkin bomb?
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That cat connection to Kpyolysis32 is about as obvious as Masq's pear connection, wow lol. Time to look through profiles and find something to do with a wretched smell
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On October 14 2010 13:57 Glasse wrote:
think about it though. brownbear also has a cat reference. maybe this is all a plan and the smaller clue is actually the real one because its not as obvious
This is true. As much as I'd like to think we've got another easy lynch like Masq because of an obvious clue, we can't read solely on clues and make quick accusations. Time for sleep, but I'll sleep more soundly knowing the streets run with red blood now
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On October 15 2010 01:37 deconduo wrote:
Don't forget that the vamps might have more than one brute.
Multiple brutes would be insanely dangerous later in the game, I doubt that there is more than one of them
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I think for now I'm going to put my vote down for Veldril while I head out to work. His connection to Masq seems like a good one, and if he really is a vamp then killing him would take one KP from them and that seems huge in this game since there are so many potential KPs as is. We have some good connections for day 2, but I usually prefer voting based on activity and posting rather than clues alone since there is always the potential of red herrings.
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On October 17 2010 10:56 CubEdIn wrote:Fair enough. Player above me: thegilaboy Voted twice against: Veldril Got voted against by: quickstriker (day 1) Profile: nothing incriminating as far as I can tell. Some protoss photos, and other sc related lines. Posts: roughly 40, most are answers to questions about the game itself, and tips. Here are some of interest: Show nested quote +
Yeah I know what MH and D1 are lol, I've played some games of mafia before. I agree though, the clues on the first day especially can be misleading or simply too obvious. It's the posting actions of individuals that we should be most concerned about, coupled with voting tendencies and wild changes in who an individual votes for in a given day.
- he seems to deflect from masq, but i had the same opinion as well (clues too obvious), so i'll let this slide Show nested quote +
I'm trying to give the basics since he seems to be so unaware of how this game is played that I thought I'd lay down the foundation for him. I'm aware of how mafia games are played, I've played in plenty of them on and off this forum
- plenty of posts in, he is only giving advice, but hasn't helped the town by contributing with analysis. He added one before game was restarted, but it was just a sum-up of the clues. Seems strange that someone with this much experience is so quiet Show nested quote +
Orglove is either a very enthusiastic townie, or he is a red trying to hold the reigns over a lot of newbies who will come to rely on his spreadsheet and and what I'll call "assessments." Spreadsheets are very useful, but you posting yours in every post is actually revealing information you should keep to yourself at times. But hey, you could be a very active townie and I might be off on my suspicions, I just think you might want to tone down on the spreadsheet since it has been found to be incorrect three times now I believe.
I know we really want to get our first day's lynch in order since the hours are winding down, but that also means the hours are winding down on any coordination of our blue roles. I believe Pandain is attempting to coordinate MH placements, which can be a good thing for town even if he is red I suppose since he will be gunning for the other red team. Aztorisk may have jumped the gun on his role claim so early on, but that was partially due to the fact that the rules/descriptions weren't as clear as there are now. I know BM has been throwing around some ideas for Ghost placement in terms of the Masq/Veldril thing, anyone else have a thought on that?
- again, suspicious that he's not saying anything outright, just generalizing, asking for opinions. seems to support Pandain, so they might be in the same team Show nested quote +
Holy fuck what an awesome night! Vamps are really hurting now, and we took care of the threat of the brute in the late game! So there were 4 actual hits and youngminii died by pumpkin bomb?
- HOLY FUCK is this incriminating. WE? WE TOOK CARE of the brute? The town lynched a spawn, the Brute was killed my Mafia. WTF? How did people miss this? Other posts are not really useful. So bottom line: I thought he could be a red or just someone who didn't have too much time to spend on the game, and that's why he was short on analysis. Until I found this post, now I'm 60% sure convinced he's mafia (which would explain support of Pandain, if he is indeed, Mafia.
And I'm back. Sorry everyone for disappearing, grad school has been crazy recently. But on the plus side midterms are past us now and that will free up a bit more time for me That's a good point though Cube, I haven't been around too much to do analyses and I hope to amend this now that a few of my more important duties have been taken care of.
I want to say first off that I do not support Pandain. I acknowledged early on that it was a plus to have someone at least coordinating our blues since there was and still remains a great deal of chaos in the town. It was a special circumstance too in this game because of the existence of 3 teams, 2 of which are red and gunning for one another specifically.
The whole brute thing comes down to excitement to see the brute gone, and I suppose grammatically the sentence came out the wrong way. I was trying to get the point across that we wouldn't have to worry about our blues getting hit by the brute later in the game, because he becomes more and more dangerous the longer the game lasts. Also, I'm pretty sure DrH wouldn't put in a second brute, so I saw this as a big win for town.
I'll go ahead and follow the new analysis methodology everyone is using, and take a look at the person above me, I'll post that when I finish!
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The person above me on the list is: Node
Came into the game at page 56 through no fault of his own, claims he had not been given permission to access the forum until then. Also if you note in the signups thread, there were some messed up PMs by the hosts to the wrong person.
Profile: Contains a picture of the comic book Calvin and Hobbes with Hobbes' face whited out. Also his signature is a line from a specific strip from C&H, as well as a title of one of their compilation books. Picture further down is presumably him amongst some hills/mountains (I have no idea what you'd call those lol). Profile states he is an aspiring game designer, likes a lot of music, and walks of the beach. No obvious clue connections that I can see right now.
Posts: 14 total
From the beginning didn't care much for Bill Murray, and made this supposition about his replacement.
On October 13 2010 14:21 Node wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 14:20 Coagulation wrote:
I am EXTREMELY interested in watching how the person who takes over his role acts.
If I had a guess, s/he is probably just going to keep posting to a minimum. Pretty much everything would be incriminating at this point.
Made a few posts clarifying the boogeyman clue
On October 15 2010 01:14 Node wrote:
As far as I can tell, and this is maybe the most damning evidence against him there is, Veldril has done absolutely zero to actually defend himself. All that he has done, or at least, all he is doing now is attempting to misdirect towards other people.
I can't think of anything more foolish than letting a red get away when he's square in our crosshairs. And please, please don't believe his BS about how it's bad for us if he turns up vampire. Reducing their KP is huge so early in the game. Does it give the mafia an advantage? Yes -- over the vampires. Less people turning up dead isn't going to hurt the town.
Made a post calling for Veldril's death, claiming that more vampires dead will essentially be beneficial for both the town and mafia (Veldril ended up being townie):
On October 15 2010 01:14 Node wrote:
As far as I can tell, and this is maybe the most damning evidence against him there is, Veldril has done absolutely zero to actually defend himself. All that he has done, or at least, all he is doing now is attempting to misdirect towards other people.
I can't think of anything more foolish than letting a red get away when he's square in our crosshairs. And please, please don't believe his BS about how it's bad for us if he turns up vampire. Reducing their KP is huge so early in the game. Does it give the mafia an advantage? Yes -- over the vampires. Less people turning up dead isn't going to hurt the town.
Also did an analysis of Kyop based on his posting and how he implicated himself (Kyop ended up being Gravedigger):
On October 15 2010 11:04 Node wrote:Kpyolisis32 is pretty damn sketchy in my book. Forget the damn cat for a moment, and just look at the way he's been posting: Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 13:25 Kpyolysis32 wrote:
By the way, the clue in LSB's death does look a hell of a lot like I did it, with the cat. It's bound to come up, so I'll just point it out now so we don't waste time. I mean, this statement is so weird no matter how you look at it. It's just, "Yep, the clue points to me. That's all." He doesn't defend himself. He doesn't deny that it was him, or provide other potential suspects. To me, it just looks like a ploy to gain some townie cred by implicating himself just a little bit, hoping that people will move on accepting that there's no way a red would provide evidence against himself. The only defense we get is: Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 13:28 Kpyolysis32 wrote:On October 14 2010 13:27 KhrisKruel wrote:
why would you implicate yourself? It's going to come up either way, may as well point it out sooner. I'm not saying I did do it (I didn't, for what that's worth), but it's by far the most obvious implication of that clue. I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.
From that point on not many substantial posts, was upset to see GR died, as well as his suspect Kyop had died and he would need to look for a new suspect:
On October 16 2010 13:09 Node wrote:
Well shit.
The real loss tonight is losing a grim reaper, though. And I'm going to have to find someone other than kpyolosis to be suspicious of.
So it goes.
Recently writes a post claiming he supports Pandain, even if he is red, because he keeps the town level-headed. Adds that aztrorisk is essentially spitting garbage, and does not want a ghost to protect him that night:
On October 17 2010 11:02 Node wrote:
Pandain, I've always thought that you seemed like, at the very least, you knew what was going on. Your posts have been significantly more constructive than, say, Aztrorisk's. Who I'm just confused about. More on him in a moment.
I may be making a huge mistake, but I think it would be altogether beneficial to the town if Pandain remained among the living. Even if he is red, he's done a lot more to keep the town level-headed than pretty much anyone else.
It makes me laugh to think that the vampires / mafia would actually want to target Aztrorisk. He has done virtually nothing to help the town, and at this point is only sowing discord and pointless suspicion with his silly codes and baseless accusations. That's not to say that suspicion is a bad thing, but that suspicion without rationality behind it can only turn us against each other. If the ghosts are listening to this, please don't save his stupid ass.
Node came into this game late and has made a few posts but really not a big impression. The only posts that may cause any kind of splash are the one's where he condemns Veldril and Kyop, who both end up not being red. Additionally, he says he supports Pandain, even if he were red, and is very against aztrorisk and considers him disruptive. I wouldn't say he is red so far, but I would like to see him posting a bit more in the thread.
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On October 17 2010 12:35 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 12:31 KhrisKruel wrote:
I like how when people get suspected for not posting they suddenly show up. Thegilaboy first, now yummyblabla Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. And it's a matter of minutes lol.
Actually it's an hour, and I came on so I could do some mafia before PL comes on tonight in 20 minutes!
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Does the double kill imply mafia or vamps sent 2 KP at him. I wouldn't imagine it's an overlap since the clue implies the two killers worked together to rip Pandain apart and mafia and vamps wouldn't work together in this game
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