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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 10:26 Coagulation wrote: bill also sent me this pm i didnt even ask him his role and he felt compelled to lie for no reason. sooo scummy This is the exact kind of thing I was talking about. Sooo red. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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+ Show Spoiler + he said "you guys are kinda boring"...and he's watching ME ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: Alright, that's good. So, Bill's friend, are you enjoying watching him play Mafia? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: no hes sitting beside me ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: It's no fun when you want it (Telling the jokes, I mean, of course >_>) Also, important: Is your friend in this mafia game? Because that's pretty important to know. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: im so town it hurts my friend is wanting you to make another rape joke ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: Hahaha, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just my wisecrack reflexes. And I guess that works, we'll just have to see how it goes before I'm certain what I think of this whole thing (and of you, you seem like a pretty good guy, but I still have no solid proof you're not just a good red). ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: im not a serial rapist, but im a cereal rapist... if it's frosted flakes that is hahahaha im talking about the circle smartass ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: I'm confused now. Are you a mafia player or a serial rapist? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: well, the fact you don't want it makes me want to give it to you more ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: That's pretty rash.. I'm not sure if I even would want the circle. It would be very hard to verify whether or not people are telling the truth about their roleclaim, especially getting the information secondhand from you. I doubt that you'll really die soon, though. Aztorisk, Orgolove, and Veldril are looking like they'll be big targets tonight because of their roleclaim, spreadsheet, and apparent scum association, respectively. Plus, I bet that a bunch of reds are having the same thoughts I initially had about your circle, but instead of pulling their hair out, they're getting a gigantic hard on. Also, mental note: Bill Murray is okay with my random abuse. =D ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: hmmmmmmmm im considering trusting you enough to have you lead the circle when i die The bolded part below is a separate pair of messages. I sent mine after the below message, then he replied, then he sent the above message immediately after. It might be important, and I want to show everybody that I'm not too big of an asshat and did apologize for my brusqueness  + Show Spoiler + no, it's fine. i liked that. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: Sorry, that may have been a bit too sarcastic. I don't actually care if you give me something on a relative scale. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: How would you even measure that? Water displacement? Instead of arbitrary numbers, I recommend a relative scale. "Enough to trust you about your role" "Not enough to even talk to you" and "enough to roleclaim a very important role to you" would all be far more useful. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: i trust you about 70% ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: Seems reasonable. Tell me if you decide I'm trustworthy, okay? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: greens typically get angrier than other roles trust me on THAT ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: I have no real reason to believe that, though. Convince me. I still am not entirely sure why you believe me that I'm green, that's basically what every single role in this game would try to convince you of. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: im not red get it out of your head if you want to keep it that is ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: Yes. I still think that a blue circle led by you is a poor idea, though. My bet is still that you're red, and that you'll fuck us all. That said, information is never bad, so if you decide that you can trust me, I'd gladly agree not to tell people, so that I could know what was going on. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: ... im not going to send all the blues to the same place are you crazy? that would be a good idea for the vampires, though lol i trust you're green, but i don't trust you won't repeat what i tell you. does that clarify things? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: So, wait, you're marking down that I'm a zombie but then saying you don't trust me? You are the most confusing and illogical person in this entire game. Maybe we should just lynch you so you don't get all our blues killed by the vampire nuke. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: no i was just mass pming people to form a circle im not sure if i trust you enough to include you thanks for the claim, though, ill mark it down ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: Okay, that's because I am a zombie. Did you assume something else previously? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: the fact youre getting mad is telling me youre a zombie btw ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: What a useful contribution. Only EVERY SINGLE possible role would say that. I'm not saying that you're my only suspect, but I am saying that I won't tell you any of my others, because you are a very prominent one. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: well, you must not know how i play as mafia i am playing as a townie ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Kpyolysis32: You are my top suspect. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Bill Murray: who are your top suspects? | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 10:40 NB wrote: i have an idea..... assuming brute is not being used tonight, we should stack ghost into 1 person and let the bogeyman see all the ghost... I didnt put much thought on that one but wana know what do you guys think? Why would we assume the brute isn't used tonight, and how would we tell all of the ghosts who to stack onto without either already knowing who they are (in which case it's not a useful thing to do) or posting it publicly (in which case the brute rapes every ghost and the boogeyman)? | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 10:42 annul wrote: wait, aztorisk claimed? i forgot and/or missed this what did he claim? He claimed JoL at the start, trying to start some intricate plan that I don't recall the details of that ultimately became inviable due to a rules mix-up. It seemed legitimate, at least to me. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 10:51 Coagulation wrote: im extremely convinced bill is scum. expecially regarding his slip up of 7pages of pm's im sure many others also see it bill knew masq was scum just like everyone else. however he also knew masq was vampire. because he knew that he wasnt mafia due to the fact that he had inside knowledge of who is mafia. i hope this makes sense Makes a lot of sense. Although I don't think that the 7 pages of PMs thing is necessarily the best clue; he mass PMd everyone asking about suspicions, and I assume most people replied, resulting in 2 additional PMs (so that's already over 180). Then, if you get stuff like what he and I had here (I really do want people to see this and see if there's anything they can glean), it's very possible that he's hit 7: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=159453¤tpage=69#1374 | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 11:05 Hyperbola wrote: Guys, Bill Murray was obviously either a blue or red: no green would ever play like that. Also if he was a detective, medic, or vigilante he would not want to draw too much attention to himself. Therefore I think there are three possibilities: 1. Bill Murray was the mad hatter and has undoubtedly placed a bomb on someone by now. 2. Bill was scum. 3. Bill was a veteran. So if nothing major comes up I think we should lynch Glurio on Night 3-4 to either lynch a mafia member/vampire, a mad hatter who by then should have set two bombs on two fishy people by then, or a veteran (Munster) which would be quite sad but has a lower chance of happening than the other possibilities. Even lynching a veteran wouldn't be THAT bad, because he'll survive and then the boogeyman can watch him to see if anyone comes to kill him (I seriously doubt that vampires would use the brute just to kill a confirmed innocent and the boogeyman, especially if they continue to be short a man compared to mafia on that night, so boogeyman is probably safe doing this). | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 11:14 seRapH wrote: veterans die to lynches no matter what. they only survive hits. Oh, really? >_> In that case, lynching a veteran would actually be pretty damn bad. It's basically killing 2 innocents (in terms of how hard it is for reds to get rid of him, he still only gets one vote obviously), and missing a chance for some cool calls with the boogeyman. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 11:50 orgolove wrote: Besides, anyone who is playing in a mafia game for the first time, is almost NEVER as engaged as you are right now. ESPECIALLY if they actually are regular townsfolk without any special roles. On October 14 2010 12:03 orgolove wrote: Lawl Tunnel Vision alert! 1. You claimed to be playing in a mafia game for the first time, and yet you use the mafia jargon of a seasoned veteran. 2.You roleclaimed as a zombie in the first day. Now, would someone who really is playing mafia, and an INTERNET mafia game, for the FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIFE, have over 70 posts before even the first day ends? In fact, considering that you claim that you have a "useless" role (you even said it yourself), I bet a real first-time mafia would find it extremely difficult to have any enthusiasm for the game. And yet here you are - 70 posts later, as a first time mafia participant and, as you claim, a zombie. This is my first game of mafia (go ahead, check my history), and I have been posting frequently, using mafia jargon as much as coag, and I am just a green. You pick up terms and stuff so fast if you read the guides on the basics of how to play, and if you have any pride, you won't find it hard to be enthusiastic about town. It's the "hard" role, where you really have to have skill at analysis and teamwork because you don't start with any info at all or any special powers. It's the same reason Zerg players got to feel so badass in SC2 back when T was for sure imba (some might argue this still stands true, but I don't want a balance discussion to happen here); they could say they played the "hard" race. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 12 2010 06:17 Coagulation wrote: how does the town communicate their roles to each other ?? Is because a guide said that it's not a good idea to. It's not some weird sinister motive used by reds to make their slip ups look like noobish mistakes- it's basic instinct. When you're new, you look for guidance from veterans so that you can more quickly learn and become useful. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 12:20 jodogohoo wrote: coagulation should die no matter what his role is. his posting in detrimental to the town. + Show Spoiler + On October 11 2010 13:26 jodogohoo wrote: wait so... did the game start yet? On October 11 2010 13:55 jodogohoo wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kenpachi lol a picture of itachi driving xD On October 11 2010 14:39 jodogohoo wrote: or he is just talking about the halo2 map =( On October 12 2010 09:43 jodogohoo wrote: what about kenpachi itachi driving =( On October 12 2010 13:46 jodogohoo wrote: DOESN'T MEAN I TRUST YOU THOUGH! TERRORIST! =( On October 12 2010 14:37 jodogohoo wrote: DETRIMENTAL TO THE TOWN! LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH As opposed to you? I feel like Coag has contributed much, much more. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 11 2010 14:57 seRapH wrote: you're posting meaningless evidence in an effort to make a joke. jokes will throw us off track so as to delay/hinder our discussion of who may ACTUALLY be mafia. this is very suspicious... my vote is still going against you >=( I think that the reason this happened was because multiple people voted Coagulation at the start because his name is about blood, so they assumed he was implicated by the clues. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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What's even more damning is seraph also has -zero- posts where he mentions coagulation beyond his last comment, where he shows he really didn't have any good reason to vote for coagulation: On October 11 2010 15:15 seRapH wrote: Show nested quote + because you're a terrorist. i'm sorry, i'm american and react badly to terrorists. give me a reason to trust you (such as contributing a valuable analysis) and maybe i'll change my mind. Go ahead, look through their posts. I can wait. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 12:44 orgolove wrote: @Kpylosis: That was posted BEFORE the last post I mentioned. Look at the time. So? Why does that matter? The way that I think it happened: Seraph (and others?) voted coagulation based on his name and the clues Coagulation responded sarcastically/jokingly Seraph made the post saying he was going to keep his vote on coagulation due to said response, because sarcasm is not beneficial to the town Notably later, coagulation brought up the vote in the post you quoted, and seraph's previously somewhat-reasonable justification seemed flimsy after candidates who were so much better has been presented, so he said the useless terrorist thing. Although, that actually does seem pretty suspicious. tHe terrorist comment is very hypocritical considering the post I quoted, and the reason why seraph wouldn't just switch his vote away at that point is not apparent to me. I want to hear their reasoning for this. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 12:49 BrownBear wrote: The day post isn't up yet. If you can link clues to each other, then you can fight all you want. Until then, quit yer bitchin' That's 10 minutes we can use to analyze and hopefully gain information, though. I feel like what orgolove is doing is actually productive, regardless of whether or not he's correct, because it give us all a greater amount of information about the people he's analyzing and about him, and there is the possibility of uncovering something that's clearly scummy. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 12:53 Coagulation wrote: the terrorist quote was a reference to a thread i made a couple days earlier about me taking tl hostage. it had nothing to do with game.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158764 Still seems hypocritical, though. He said that what you said was unproductive, then proceeded to make an irrelevant (though incredibly awesome) reference. I actually saw that thread when you made it <3 | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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On October 14 2010 12:54 seRapH wrote: -.- have i not made it clear that i will have nothing to do with clues? why i voted for coag: because if i didnt then my vote would be on nobody, which isnt productive. if i vote people then it goads them to respond, and i want responses to analyze. why i didnt switch: we were in the middle of a discussion of which i wasn't sure what side i agreed with. if i switched then i may have had to switch many more times. now lets look at it this way: If i were scum, and coag was my scummate, then i would switch AS SOON as i find another candidate with qualifying suspicion. i would push to have this character lynched. Seems super reasonable. I definitely understand voting on people to try and get information from them; that's what my first tow votes on Day 1 were attempting (poorly) to do. | ||
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Kpyolysis32
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"Dawn of the Second Day 48 hours remain" | ||
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Yet another JoL is a little weird. I really doubt that 4 exist. And wow at the Godfather getting killed so early By the way, the clue in LSB's death does look a hell of a lot like I did it, with the cat. It's bound to come up, so I'll just point it out now so we don't waste time. | ||
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