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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 14 2010 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: I have not been trying to control the blues. I have merely made suggestions about possible targets, and put in my opinions of where blues could go. The mere act of suggesting any possibilities for blues to do actions is attempting to influence the blues. I think that's scummy. If you just gave a list of people you find scummy and townie, I'm sure the blues would use that list against their own and make the best decision without some random person who they don't know if is town or not putting WIFOM on their plate. On October 14 2010 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: I never said that I was the person to trust. If people were to claim to me, they would have my trust, but there is no way for anyone to know that unless I am role checked. I am not TRYING to control the blues, I am only saying that having no structure is futile. It's not futile. When blues finally claim later in the game, all the information of their "random" acts will be revealed and we can go from there. It's not as random as you think. The scummy people will get investigated, and townie players will get protected. That's how it works. Attempting to influence their decisions just allows scum to manipulate. On October 14 2010 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: The Mafia/Vampire win conditions are to kill all of the enemy faction. They do not win by killing townies. Townies will die, sure. But us dying won't get the M/V any closer to a win. The mafia and vampires are already structured, they know their allies and who they can target. The town is set back extremely by not knowing anything. We are fortunate that we have had this many scum die thus far, but that does not mean we can sit on our asses and hope that a chaotic bumblefuck of townies will win in the end. Even if, as you claim, a structure is not needed until late game, it is difficult to set one up at the blink of an eye. We need to start now. How do we start one up? How can a blue trust each other? The only fail safe method is to post pictures of your pm box. That's cheating. and secondly, everyone got two role pm's. How do you know they aren't showing you the one that is now untrue? There's no way in hell a ghost could possibly trust anyone. Just because they protected someone doesn't mean they are townie, because there are two factions. Also, they could've protected from a vigilante. Detectives are the closest thing to being able to set up some type of safety ring. But they shouldn't do jack until they have investigations. Detectives will trust who they want, not because someone said "hey guys roleclaim to me." If there is a ring of blues going around, it shouldn't be started by people posting in the thread about it. They should do it on their own accord. And they shouldn't listen to what anyone in the thread says about what actions to do. This is the only way to keep scum out of the ring. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
Just requesting a verification | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 15 2010 22:05 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yeah, we may be wrong, but let's look at the scenarios: 1. He's townie - not that big of a deal. We have a decent lead, we can afford one or two townie kills. 2. He's blue - this is worst case scenario, losing a blue would suck. 3. He's Vampire - Vampires lose a kill point, Mafia has a decent edge on Vamps, we would need to start focusing on finding Mafia. 4. He's Mafia - Mafia and Vamps are more even, Vamps still have 3 KP. Even if each scenario has an equal percentage chance of income, we have a 75% chance of it not going badly for the town. I see scenarios 3 and 4 to be about equally beneficial. 3 is more beneficial for Night 2, while 4 is more beneficial for the long run of the game. You do realize this can be said about every player in the game. This post reeks of "I don't care if Veldril dies" | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
You give completely illogical numbers. Anyone can see from the OP its not an equal chance of being each. Your numbers heavily skew towards advantageous numbers. A townie lynch is not good. Ever. Sad that you would think that. I know scum would think that townie kills are good though. With your illogical numbers, and no vote yourself, your post screams "I want Veldril dead but I don't want to get my hands dirty." Even if you do plan to vote for him, if this is really your reasoning, then that's scummy. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
It would be useful to know the flavor of whoever tried to kill him...if it was vamps we know he's not a vamp, and if it was mafia we know he's not a mafia. There's just no reason to divulge the reason he/she was saved. Public knowledge of how many ghosts there are in the game really only helps the scum. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote: instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched edit by way of post. I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 16 2010 10:10 aztrorisk wrote: Doctor H, did you assign the roles or were they random? he's said multiple times that it was randomized | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 16 2010 12:01 orgolove wrote: He's forcing me to talk with him "privately" -.- How is he forcing you. If you don't want to talk to him privately post the PM's and continue the discussion publicly. No one is forcing you to do anything. Although if he's threatening you or something then that needs to be exposed | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 16 2010 13:03 aztrorisk wrote: hahahaha I had a feeling, we should now blame the people that voted for vendril You mean like....you? I do believe your name is on his lynch. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
You voted for him without suspecting him of being a red? | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 16 2010 13:13 KhrisKruel wrote: Are you admitting to blatantly bandwagoning? You voted for him without suspecting him of being a red? edit by way of post: This post is meant for aztro | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 16 2010 13:13 jcarlsoniv wrote: I feel this is necessary to bring up to the group. Pandain has PMd me with a message titled "Ultimatum" Interesting. Well, I'm sorry to say, I must be a creeper then. If the only evidence you have is a DT check, which, sure, is some nice evidence, and you are convinced, go ahead. If you find evidence in my posts damning me to be vampire, then I will be more inclined to believe you. If you do though, it will be a wasted death. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Pandain: dt check ----------------------------------------- Original Message From jcarlsoniv: Lol, ok, go ahead if you want another lynch like tonight. What possible evidence do you have that I'm vampire? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Pandain: just vampire. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From jcarlsoniv: ...just curious, what are you going to reveal me as. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Pandain: With vendril dead, I want some info NOW or I'm revealing you asap and let mafia do w/e I know, obviously I would claim creeper if someone confronted me, right? Well, I assure you that I am a zombie. If people find evidence in my posts that suggests otherwise, please bring it up. I will be a wasted death/kill if I am targeted because of this. To be honest jcarl, I think you're a vampire too. You pushed for Veldril when Masq was gaining speed, just like every other flipped vampire. You rarely do any scum finding, while trying to push people to scum find. You suspect people that have flamboyant posting styles, when play styles aren't really indicative of scum or not. You publicly keep asking for blue information. No one is going to give you blue information. That would be suicide on the blue's part. So yes I thought you were a vamp too. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
See ya'll in day 3. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 16 2010 14:32 spydR wrote: Someone tell me these posts aren't scummy as hell? Very disappointing result here. Post analysis inc after dinner hopefully no they're scummy as hell. You are correct. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
We'll know who he planted bombs on when he flips. Even then, he might've PM'd a scum, so they could change what he said. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
Just post your notes normally. To pretend that whatever you have is rocksolid just shows your newbness and I'm inclined just to ignore you. You don't need to keep secrets about your thoughts from the town. | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
So knowing that whatever you decoded would get you lynched, why wouldn't we just lynch you for claiming that? | ||
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