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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:32 GMT
#601
just go read your role pm and tell me if you are town
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:32 GMT
#602
it's red, isn't it?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 07 2010 05:34 GMT
#603
Wait? I sub into a game and after a singular night, our returning champion BM, the king among morons comes in proclaiming "hi guys, I wont claim my role but im town, lynch this guy hes red". Guess what, he just pulled this crap on flamewheel, and flame flipped VI.

before you try to say "NUH UH"

On October 07 2010 13:58 Bill Murray wrote:
lets have an open roleclaim. BC, you first. I'm town, but I'm not saying what at this point
people can say "no, we shouldn't roleclaim, it is way too early". I just want people to claim town/townie, not what role they are.

If I was mafia, I wouldn't have the balls to say this. This is too obvious to be the play of mafia. Lynch BC if I get mislynched. If he flips red, look at ~OpZ~ and DoctorH. If you all want to win, listen to me.

Claim.
I'm claiming town.
We need to consolidate through claims.
Trust me on this one, and we will have a good game.


You then auto finger other known mafia players, who arguably have more experience than most of the town at this point, keeping in mind you knew flamewheels smurf, and then failed to inform anyone (even after he said it was fine to) you got him lynched. You are obviously aiming to off people who might be able to fight your ability to spam a thread with meaningless shite.

Everyone, just listen to simple facts.

BM is refusing to claim his role (other than town aligned, but softclaimed blue)
He is pointing fingers left and right at players without actually bringing posts into the mix as to why he believes they are red
He so vigorously pushed the lynch that should have ended the game
HE then bitched and moaned to have the game restarted as he didn't want to play a game where he knew anyone with experience behind them would push for people to
a) lynch him
or
b) ignore him for the rest of the game

Everyone should keep in mind that when bm is town he is horrifically useless and just ends up helping the mafia.

Just ignore him and lets move onto reasonable targets for the day
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 07 2010 05:35 GMT
#604
my suspects

HFT/BC - Probably top of my suspect list. The contradiction BM found in HFT's posts is pretty good evidence, although I'm less convinced about BC's "rolefishing." For new players, that honestly is pretty good advice.
BM - I'm torn. He did "lose" us on the first day, but he also found an anti-town. He has been acting like a village idiot with his plan to weed out greens (which I believe doesn't make any sense), but he has also provided us with a solid lead for a suspect. I think his analysis for who's anti-town is valuable, so I wouldn't vote to leech him for now.
Ghrur - He did vote for Protact, but he had a reasoned post, and I think he was simply duped by Protact. I don't think he was very scummy from what I saw.
cSc - He's not so much a suspect as an inactive or a newbie; I don't know if he will post his logic for bumatlarge (if he had any) or if we will get anything out of it.
Crisis - his "stuck between a rock and a hard place" is pretty odd, and this post:
On October 06 2010 12:50 Crisis_ wrote:
I'll just tell you right now, I'm not red.

which was made AFTER he voted protact to put himself out of the lead is also questionable. My #2 suspect, and as OpZ said, definitely needs to be in a higher light.
Dr. H - Looks like he really doesn't like Misder, but I can definitely see why. I wouldn't suspect him so much because his arguments have been pretty focused and reasonable.
OpZ - Narrow your suspect list. It's obvious you're good at picking out odd posts, but I want to see your top few.
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 07 2010 05:36 GMT
#605
^ err, in my last post, i meant to say my my suspects and other analysis ,_,
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 07 2010 05:39 GMT
#606
On October 07 2010 14:35 infinitestory wrote:
my suspects

HFT/BC - Probably top of my suspect list. The contradiction BM found in HFT's posts is pretty good evidence, although I'm less convinced about BC's "rolefishing." For new players, that honestly is pretty good advice.
BM - I'm torn. He did "lose" us on the first day, but he also found an anti-town. He has been acting like a village idiot with his plan to weed out greens (which I believe doesn't make any sense), but he has also provided us with a solid lead for a suspect. I think his analysis for who's anti-town is valuable, so I wouldn't vote to leech him for now.
Ghrur - He did vote for Protact, but he had a reasoned post, and I think he was simply duped by Protact. I don't think he was very scummy from what I saw.
cSc - He's not so much a suspect as an inactive or a newbie; I don't know if he will post his logic for bumatlarge (if he had any) or if we will get anything out of it.
Crisis - his "stuck between a rock and a hard place" is pretty odd, and this post:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 12:50 Crisis_ wrote:
I'll just tell you right now, I'm not red.

which was made AFTER he voted protact to put himself out of the lead is also questionable. My #2 suspect, and as OpZ said, definitely needs to be in a higher light.
Dr. H - Looks like he really doesn't like Misder, but I can definitely see why. I wouldn't suspect him so much because his arguments have been pretty focused and reasonable.
OpZ - Narrow your suspect list. It's obvious you're good at picking out odd posts, but I want to see your top few.

oh wow BM posted a lot while I was typing this up, and some of his posts look pretty inflammatory
I'm upgrading BM to my #3 suspect, but I'll keep in mind what Dr. H said about BM always playing this way as town
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 07 2010 05:43 GMT
#607
On October 07 2010 13:35 Bill Murray wrote:
This shows to me that the person who is putting the hits in sucks at blue sniping.
Let me decide who is high tier enough to call the shots yet not hit a blue.

1. LSB
2. bumatlarge townie
3. Bill Murray
4. Pandain
5. SouthRawrea
6. Amber[LighT]
7. Infundibulum
8. Divinek
9. Misder
10.SINiquity
11.XeliN
12.RebirthOfLegend
13.~OpZ~
14.DoctorHelvetica
15.infinitestory
16.cSc
->17.Happy.fairytail BloodyC0bbler<-
18.NukeTheBunnys
19.Crisis_
20.drag_
21.CynanMachae
22.meeple
23.kingjames01
24.ghrur


Doing an iso on slot 17


Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 14:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok Medics, here is how the game should be played tonight.

Make a list of people you think are innocent. Now, it has to be a list of a few people. ANALYZE them every day to make sure they don't change from town to scummy in your eyes, and prot them, non stop or until we have a better idea. If anyone who pushed for flamewheels lynch is on your list, slap yourself really hard and remake your list.

As for the rest of the town. Take the time now to either look at the name above or below you in the list, and look over their posts and analyze them. Post that analysis in thread for debate. Lets get us some targets. Hell after this day there is a ton of crap to look through.

I have viewed this post as gloating, and rolefishing. Why would BloodyC0bbler have reason to be fishing for a medic? Consider the fact that Happy.Fairytale was spouting babble about the DT, and I am very happy voting to lynch slot 17 which was Happy.Fairytale and is now BloodyC0bbler.

Posts 234/235 by Happy.Fairytale were posts to fake being useful to the town
Post 255 is him fishing for Detectives through number "analysis"
Post 257 by Happy.Fairytale: Please read this+ Show Spoiler +
On October 05 2010 23:19 Happy.fairytail wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty concerned that we could potentially have 8 mod deaths by the end of today. (Not worried about Bill Murray and Cynan, it seems they're around and will post in time)

Also, in terms of accusations, I think we should start now. We only have 14 hours before the day ends, so we should give a few hours to accusations, a few hours to defending, a few hours to some townsperson deliberation, and a few hours to vote.

So inactives, now is the time for you guys to start speaking up. I'm going to point out JeeJee just 'cuz he's at the top of the inactive list, and I know he's around because I just checked his post history and his last post was 10 hrs ago (13:09 TL time). So speak up man.

This shows that he is just talking for the sake of talking. This makes the second time in a row he has posted right after his original post. If he was town, he would only need one really lengthy post, or a string of spam. I believe he is putting on a false face. I hope that you all will be convinced of Happy.Fairytale/BloodyC0bbler (remember, they're the same person as the slot) being scum. BC's play is a LOT weaker as scum based upon meta, and his play this game is so weak I wasn't even sure he was even IN the game.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 21:21 Happy.fairytail wrote:
shoot, I didn't vote last night ... worked all night yesterday and fell asleep with the lights on and everything. am I mod killed? =T (gonna read the last 12 pages of posts now)



Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 21:56 Happy.fairytail wrote:
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet, setting up profiles of every single person ... arghhhhhhhhhhhhfahsofuiaw8efu9anh7q23984nvpauilfjvo;uw3avn78o3nvr8oPA*OVRNA@NV


These two things are nearly an open contradiction. "I haven't read 12 pages" followed immediately by 35 minutes and then "I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet".

BULLSHIT.

Lynch BloodyC0bbler.




Wait lawl?

Your case against me personally is I gave real advice that needed to be said to ALL OF THE NEW BLOOD as a scum tell? Then proceed to make up some random nonsense reason that only I am top tier enough to not hit a blue? Seriously? Go look at my track record dude, pretty well every game I have actively played while been red has led to almost consistant blue hits every single night of gameplay.

But hey, lets not bring actual facts into an argument, lets just bullshit your way through a game,

Hell even your contradiction is laughable. He had how much actual time to do what he said he had done minus 12 hours. Creating a spreadsheet/worddoc with information is becoming common place, and insanely useful. You start it typically day 1, and add/alter information as the game progress'


This is a desperate attempt to save yourself, and your clinging at straws.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:44 GMT
#608
"your" a terrible player when you are red, and very weak.
My case doesn't HAVE to be on you when you replace in, chief
sorry you're busted. flail more.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:46 GMT
#609
Furthermore, James, you need to claim Town/Townie
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:46 GMT
#610
You, too, infinitestory.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:47 GMT
#611
don't forget to read your role pms
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 07 2010 05:47 GMT
#612
On October 07 2010 14:44 Bill Murray wrote:
"your" a terrible player when you are red, and very weak.
My case doesn't HAVE to be on you when you replace in, chief
sorry you're busted. flail more.


Really? You analyzed me, then posted a quote on someones "contradiction"

Considering players often create documents of analysis early on your actual evidence is lacking. You are just doing what you did to flamewheel offering shit on a stick and trying to sell it as something else.

First time you get shit on yourself and everyone else for failing so hard, then your like "well I'm the best motherfucker around" and attempt again. If you think I'm red stop spamming the thread and build a real case.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:49 GMT
#613
that someone is you. Happy.Fairytale is you. Are you disputing that? you replaced into his slot. That's you. Deal with it.

I'm not going to stop spamming until you claim either
a) town
b) townie
c) you don't claim and we lynch you to see what you'll flip
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 07 2010 05:49 GMT
#614
On October 07 2010 14:46 Bill Murray wrote:
You, too, infinitestory.

I claim town.

I have no idea where you could possibly be going with this.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 07 2010 05:49 GMT
#615
On October 07 2010 14:47 Bill Murray wrote:
don't forget to read your role pms


You too dude, you have to relook to realize "massive troll" isn't a real role.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
October 07 2010 05:49 GMT
#616
On October 05 2010 13:03 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 12:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'd rather you post your suspects now Mr. Misder?

What if mafia slay you at night?

=/


I think I rather wait. First, my suspicions aren't really big; they could be comepletely wrong, and I don't really have strong evidence. Plus, I'm still looking at different play styles from previous games. Second, this way, the mafia doesn't know whether I'm right or wrong, so if they really are scared, they're going to have to kill me If you guys really want, I'll post my suspicions, maybe to generate discussion or something on day 1.
Which reminds me, how do we decide which inactive to lynch?

Where are these?

is this how I became a suspect?
Laughable.
On October 05 2010 12:34 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 08:31 ghrur wrote:
Speaking of lynching, do we have to accuse before we can vote on the person? Or can we just type ##vote xxxxxxx?
If we don't need to accuse, should we do so anyway in the thread to start a discussion?

Also, I support the idea of non-random lynching. Random lynching has a greater chance of hitting blue or green instead of red. Random lynching also doesn't promote discussion which means there's less of a posting trail for later in the game.
For non-random lynching, I suggest lynching a suspicious active instead of an inactive. Inactives could be simply bored by the Day1 stuff, but become really useful later. An example would be the recent RAM game where Xelin was inactive in the beginning, but found a mafia member on his first accusation.


You technically can vote without any reason, but I always accuse along with vote. Voting without any analysis is pretty scummy in my book. Right now, I have some hunches on whos mafia, but I'm gonna hold back til there are more posts to work with. So, I'm probably going to vote for an inactive, unless something major happens.

Really? You never explained why you voted for me.....beautiful contradiction homie?
On October 06 2010 09:18 Misder wrote:
I would vote Infund, but I've played with him mafia last game, and he does a lot more accusing and spam in that game. He's not acting like he was when he was mafia before; he may have changed his playstyle, but that's pretty unlikely.

Also, I would like to say that a lot of mafia members like to post a lot in the beginning, seemingly to help out, but they hide later in the day. (someone like ~Opz~, for example, I've got suspicions on him; I don't know if they are good feelings or bad feelings).

I don't hide. I just....Fizzle out once lots of information becomes apparent. Most of what I'm feeling gets said by others when theres lots of information floating around. My activity is usually
A) Terrible in the beginning/Good in the middle/and up there when the game gets close
B) okay in the beginning/good in the mid/and nonexistant in the end. Depends how the game pans out.
On October 06 2010 09:22 Misder wrote:
Actually, I’m just going to vote ~Opz~ right now instead of XeliN, just because of this tiny suspicion. I don’t know if I truly believe in that he is mafia, but I think he has a better chance at being mafia than XeliN.

Ohhh this was your reason?

Little tiny baby suspicion that you couldn't even explain? Call it....Intuition maybe? If thats all your suspicion is, intuition, then post it and call it that. Don't pretend you have nonexistant evidence.

So...yea...Misder you need to explain your positions now.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:51 GMT
#617
On October 07 2010 14:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 14:47 Bill Murray wrote:
don't forget to read your role pms


You too dude, you have to relook to realize "massive troll" isn't a real role.

funny guy
town or townie?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:51 GMT
#618
which did you pick as your godfather fakerole, BC? Town or Townie?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 07 2010 05:52 GMT
#619
On October 07 2010 14:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 13:03 Misder wrote:
On October 05 2010 12:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'd rather you post your suspects now Mr. Misder?

What if mafia slay you at night?

=/


I think I rather wait. First, my suspicions aren't really big; they could be comepletely wrong, and I don't really have strong evidence. Plus, I'm still looking at different play styles from previous games. Second, this way, the mafia doesn't know whether I'm right or wrong, so if they really are scared, they're going to have to kill me If you guys really want, I'll post my suspicions, maybe to generate discussion or something on day 1.
Which reminds me, how do we decide which inactive to lynch?

Where are these?

is this how I became a suspect?
Laughable.
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 12:34 Misder wrote:
On October 05 2010 08:31 ghrur wrote:
Speaking of lynching, do we have to accuse before we can vote on the person? Or can we just type ##vote xxxxxxx?
If we don't need to accuse, should we do so anyway in the thread to start a discussion?

Also, I support the idea of non-random lynching. Random lynching has a greater chance of hitting blue or green instead of red. Random lynching also doesn't promote discussion which means there's less of a posting trail for later in the game.
For non-random lynching, I suggest lynching a suspicious active instead of an inactive. Inactives could be simply bored by the Day1 stuff, but become really useful later. An example would be the recent RAM game where Xelin was inactive in the beginning, but found a mafia member on his first accusation.


You technically can vote without any reason, but I always accuse along with vote. Voting without any analysis is pretty scummy in my book. Right now, I have some hunches on whos mafia, but I'm gonna hold back til there are more posts to work with. So, I'm probably going to vote for an inactive, unless something major happens.

Really? You never explained why you voted for me.....beautiful contradiction homie?
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 09:18 Misder wrote:
I would vote Infund, but I've played with him mafia last game, and he does a lot more accusing and spam in that game. He's not acting like he was when he was mafia before; he may have changed his playstyle, but that's pretty unlikely.

Also, I would like to say that a lot of mafia members like to post a lot in the beginning, seemingly to help out, but they hide later in the day. (someone like ~Opz~, for example, I've got suspicions on him; I don't know if they are good feelings or bad feelings).

I don't hide. I just....Fizzle out once lots of information becomes apparent. Most of what I'm feeling gets said by others when theres lots of information floating around. My activity is usually
A) Terrible in the beginning/Good in the middle/and up there when the game gets close
B) okay in the beginning/good in the mid/and nonexistant in the end. Depends how the game pans out.
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 09:22 Misder wrote:
Actually, I’m just going to vote ~Opz~ right now instead of XeliN, just because of this tiny suspicion. I don’t know if I truly believe in that he is mafia, but I think he has a better chance at being mafia than XeliN.

Ohhh this was your reason?

Little tiny baby suspicion that you couldn't even explain? Call it....Intuition maybe? If thats all your suspicion is, intuition, then post it and call it that. Don't pretend you have nonexistant evidence.

So...yea...Misder you need to explain your positions now.

Someone squirming in the hotseat? OpZ why do you care so much to defend yourself?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 07 2010 05:53 GMT
#620
On October 07 2010 14:49 Bill Murray wrote:
that someone is you. Happy.Fairytale is you. Are you disputing that? you replaced into his slot. That's you. Deal with it.

I'm not going to stop spamming until you claim either
a) town
b) townie
c) you don't claim and we lynch you to see what you'll flip



I'm town, and you already know that. I didn't disagree that I filled his slot, I do disagree with the specific reasons you weighed against me as you know damn well your lying and I will recommend any of the newer players to go check the previous games to catch you on that.

Your contradiction of hft is also laughable as your having issues with someone having time to do analysis up until they got swapped out. Who cares if he missed 12 hours? Until the last minute vote swing you did in a 4 hour period there was nothing he would have missed.

Now seriously stop spamming, you've been warned for it in previous games as well as near modkilled for it so stop it and make detailed posts.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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