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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 06 2010 02:04 GMT
#361
I have decided to unleash my true potential with a specific job in this community.

I will be on official village idiot watch. With my experience with certain persons I will not disclose, I believe I am best suited for finding this loathsome creature and preventing pollution. I will begin by saying I believe he will be among the very active, with an ignorant townie profile at first. He will then upgrade later to a fully fledged bad poster with useless plans and innocuous wifom. I think we need to base more on fact this game rather then profiling, or at least let it take less of a role in our decisions, as opposed to lets say TMM2 (an absolute nightmare for someone with little skill in analysis).

We do have a similar goal with mafia in this which helps us tremendously. Hopefully they will target with priority on the VI. This woks in everyone's favor but especially town, as we will see distruptive players being picked off if they get out of line.

Do not post stupid, and review what you are about to say. And no wishy-washy opinions please, we need to be direct as possible, then I can pretty much guarantee town having a greater chance at victory then a normal non-VI game. I didn't really have enough time to completely read the thread yet, but I will give my conclusions later after day finishes. Lynch a mid-low count poster and we won't have a chance at hitting the VI.

Double lynch is extremely dangerous, linking people is extremely helpful, and claiming must be treated like you would when setting a domino record. If a blue claims, VI can easily follow up with a claim hoping for the lynch, yet this also gives mafia strong leeway when it comes to claiming. We have to wait a night-cycle before deciding, so mafia can stop the VI for us if it isnt one of theirs. And then we can safely kill the impostor if they do not die during the night.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
October 06 2010 02:06 GMT
#362
On October 06 2010 11:01 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 10:54 SiNiquity wrote:
so protactinium, who are you? You're tied for the lead to be killed.


I really don't know who he is... and it shouldn't matter... but if you look through his posts... it smacks of someone like flamewheel


i love having secret knowledge
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
October 06 2010 02:08 GMT
#363
On October 06 2010 10:58 meeple wrote:
... lots of sudden votes for protactinium... I mean... smurfing isn't that annoying is it?

What's the deal with infinitestory's no-post vote... get in here man!


Not just infinitestory, ghrur as well. You guys better post your reasoning for these votes on Element 91.
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 02:11:34
October 06 2010 02:10 GMT
#364
I say in order to neutralize the village idiot, village makes a "deal" with mafia. Once the VI is made obvious, the villagers will announce that they will all vote to lynch VI if he is not mafia-killed overnight. Since the mafia aren't going to sit back and watch themselves lose, VI will be neutralized. If VI is NOT neutralized, either mafia lose, OR the "VI" is actually Godfather posing as VI; in the latter case, the villagers stand to gain a huge amount.

Now that this plan has been announced, VI must try get himself lynched subtly or risk the above plan being put into action. Be cautious, guys.

EDIT: i voted for proactinium because BrownBear did too its the cool thing to do
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 06 2010 02:12 GMT
#365
On October 06 2010 11:10 infinitestory wrote:
I say in order to neutralize the village idiot, village makes a "deal" with mafia. Once the VI is made obvious, the villagers will announce that they will all vote to lynch VI if he is not mafia-killed overnight. Since the mafia aren't going to sit back and watch themselves lose, VI will be neutralized. If VI is NOT neutralized, either mafia lose, OR the "VI" is actually Godfather posing as VI; in the latter case, the villagers stand to gain a huge amount.

Now that this plan has been announced, VI must try get himself lynched subtly or risk the above plan being put into action. Be cautious, guys.

EDIT: i voted for proactinium because BrownBear did too its the cool thing to do



What?

Also, Consider this your official warning: Do not edit posts, please. Next one is a modkill.
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SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
October 06 2010 02:13 GMT
#366
I'm pretty sure lynching the village idiot means we all lose. I see no reason for mafia to play along.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 06 2010 02:14 GMT
#367
On October 06 2010 11:10 infinitestory wrote:
I say in order to neutralize the village idiot, village makes a "deal" with mafia. Once the VI is made obvious, the villagers will announce that they will all vote to lynch VI if he is not mafia-killed overnight. Since the mafia aren't going to sit back and watch themselves lose, VI will be neutralized. If VI is NOT neutralized, either mafia lose, OR the "VI" is actually Godfather posing as VI; in the latter case, the villagers stand to gain a huge amount.

Now that this plan has been announced, VI must try get himself lynched subtly or risk the above plan being put into action. Be cautious, guys.

EDIT: i voted for proactinium because BrownBear did too its the cool thing to do

No editing.

Also, as I've already stated town threatening to lynch VI doesn't scare the Mafia. If the VI is lynched, everybody (excluding the VI, of course) loses. Why would Mafia feel forced to have to kill him at night?

BrownBear is the host. When did he vote for me? Also "its the cool thing to do" is such a nice statement to make, obvious implications notwithstanding.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 06 2010 02:14 GMT
#368
On October 06 2010 11:08 Infundibulum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 10:58 meeple wrote:
... lots of sudden votes for protactinium... I mean... smurfing isn't that annoying is it?

What's the deal with infinitestory's no-post vote... get in here man!


Not just infinitestory, ghrur as well. You guys better post your reasoning for these votes on Element 91.


Agreed. Things that must happen:
1.Sinquity post a decent sized paragraph or more of content
2. Infinitestory and ghurur explain your votes. I'm voting infinite story for that since he hasn't posted either. (At least he's online! Now pressure him to speak)\

As of right now we are in a deadly situation. The greatest number of votes on a person is 3, while mafia have 5 players. Mafia can and probably will influence the outcome of this lynch. I've suggested we therefore stick to a single person since at least we will have a chance at lynching mafia(rather than the 99% chance that mafia will manipulate the voting if a mafia is getting lynched.) I was going to suggest Infun, but am less sure now.

+ Show Spoiler +
On the side note, I have now figured out who it is. Hehe Element 91.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 06 2010 02:19 GMT
#369
On October 06 2010 11:14 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 11:10 infinitestory wrote:
I say in order to neutralize the village idiot, village makes a "deal" with mafia. Once the VI is made obvious, the villagers will announce that they will all vote to lynch VI if he is not mafia-killed overnight. Since the mafia aren't going to sit back and watch themselves lose, VI will be neutralized. If VI is NOT neutralized, either mafia lose, OR the "VI" is actually Godfather posing as VI; in the latter case, the villagers stand to gain a huge amount.

Now that this plan has been announced, VI must try get himself lynched subtly or risk the above plan being put into action. Be cautious, guys.

EDIT: i voted for proactinium because BrownBear did too its the cool thing to do

No editing.

Also, as I've already stated town threatening to lynch VI doesn't scare the Mafia. If the VI is lynched, everybody (excluding the VI, of course) loses. Why would Mafia feel forced to have to kill him at night?

BrownBear is the host. When did he vote for me? Also "its the cool thing to do" is such a nice statement to make, obvious implications notwithstanding.

I stated the exact reason. If village threatens to kill village idiot, mafia's only option to stay in the game is to kill the village idiot at night. I know full well the win condition of the village idiot, and it is the EXACT reason the mafia should feel compelled to carry out the dirty work of removing him.

oh, and i meant Bill Murray voted for you :/
I was feeling sad about having to vote on day 1 without evidence, but your reply which is a blatant invective rather than an attempt to cooperate/defend self has caused me to lose sympathy. I apologize if this is unfounded or wrong, but making personal attacks on each other in the beginning is one of the hallmarks of a player who is unhelpful in the long run, from my experience.
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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
October 06 2010 02:20 GMT
#370
It's funny because I remember who pro is and I'm going to leave pro be.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 06 2010 02:22 GMT
#371
I'm sorry, am I attacking you? I was pretty sure I was just attacking your ideas, good sir.
And so, we find the Sublime.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 06 2010 02:24 GMT
#372
On October 06 2010 11:22 Protactinium wrote:
I'm sorry, am I attacking you? I was pretty sure I was just attacking your ideas, good sir.

Well, then can you offer a logical argument as to why mafia would abstain from night-killing village idiot if village idiot is exposed and town makes the threat I outlined above? I would be glad to hear any thoughtful criticism, as this plan needs to work perfectly to actually get rid of that idiotic nuisance.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3787 Posts
October 06 2010 02:27 GMT
#373
I voted for Protactinium because when I went back over the posts, he suggested that DTs out themselves as soon as they find a red... and then had a huge section where he didn't post. Now, I don't agree with that part because DT(s) have the threat of Millers and Godfather to deal with. These two alone could cause huge trouble for the DT(s). Sure, there might not be a high statistical probability of these two happening, but on the off chance that they do happen, sacrificing a DT for a mistake is extremely costly. Losing a townie as a miller or securing a godfather as a blue, and then losing a DT all in one turn? That's a huge loss to the town.

Then, of course, there's this huge gap between him posting the idea and them him posting again, but this time it's more about the smurf. Now, I don't understand why he needs a smurf, but having that smurf has really caused some chaos. People lately have been worrying much more over the smurf than discussing lynches and such. Also, it gave the opportunity for someone like Pandain to claim to be Protactinium. I'm guessing that was a joke... but come on. Having the risk of someone being able to claim smurf? I don't like it. =/

Finally, Bill Murray seems to be sure that he's a red. Unfortunately, I couldn't read over the whole mafia link he posted (no time Dx), but he has to have some reason to make such a strong claim. =/ He also cited a behavioral difference for it, but with the claim that he knows the smurf. Idk how much I can trust it, but I do see the smurf getting in the way of clear analysis again. =/
darkness overpowering
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
October 06 2010 02:29 GMT
#374
This presumes the Mafia is in a position to win - if they feel like they're losing, then it's the town's game to lose by following through with the lynch.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
October 06 2010 02:30 GMT
#375
EBWOP: The above is in response to
On October 06 2010 11:24 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 11:22 Protactinium wrote:
I'm sorry, am I attacking you? I was pretty sure I was just attacking your ideas, good sir.

Well, then can you offer a logical argument as to why mafia would abstain from night-killing village idiot if village idiot is exposed and town makes the threat I outlined above? I would be glad to hear any thoughtful criticism, as this plan needs to work perfectly to actually get rid of that idiotic nuisance.

'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 06 2010 02:38 GMT
#376
On October 06 2010 11:29 SiNiquity wrote:
This presumes the Mafia is in a position to win - if they feel like they're losing, then it's the town's game to lose by following through with the lynch.

As long as the mafia are still in the game, they stand to lose by not night-killing the VI, regardless of whether it's also "the town's game to lose." To win, the mafia must remove both the VI and the town. A 1% chance to win the game is still preferable to simply losing. I know I've seen games where 1 mafia took out several town by himself with some clever lynch voting. :/

We should also try to start figuring out (if we've already done this, sorry, I just jumped in :/) what role Godfather is posing as, to help the DT do his job with the utmost accuracy. My first thought was that Godfather would pose as VI, and after that I can't decide which of the blue roles (barring DT of course) would be the most viable to pose as. Posing as bulletproof or veteran would cause the DT to defend him heavily against lynch kills, but I think the same probably applies for medic, mad hatter, and vigilante. Any other opinions?
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 06 2010 02:38 GMT
#377
On October 06 2010 11:07 cSc wrote:
##vote bumatlarge


do you have a reason for this?
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 06 2010 02:40 GMT
#378
On October 06 2010 11:24 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 11:22 Protactinium wrote:
I'm sorry, am I attacking you? I was pretty sure I was just attacking your ideas, good sir.

Well, then can you offer a logical argument as to why mafia would abstain from night-killing village idiot if village idiot is exposed and town makes the threat I outlined above? I would be glad to hear any thoughtful criticism, as this plan needs to work perfectly to actually get rid of that idiotic nuisance.


Basically, if the town's going to be that much of a panda poacher than mafia can just do the same thing. They don't hit the VI. Then what? We doom ourselves? Chances are we change our mind and the mafia are 1 up on us. Basically, the plan revolves entirely around wifom, which should rarely be used in mafia.

Alright, we have two explantions from why they voted Proctat. What about you, Sinquity?
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 06 2010 02:45 GMT
#379
On October 06 2010 11:40 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 11:24 infinitestory wrote:
On October 06 2010 11:22 Protactinium wrote:
I'm sorry, am I attacking you? I was pretty sure I was just attacking your ideas, good sir.

Well, then can you offer a logical argument as to why mafia would abstain from night-killing village idiot if village idiot is exposed and town makes the threat I outlined above? I would be glad to hear any thoughtful criticism, as this plan needs to work perfectly to actually get rid of that idiotic nuisance.


Basically, if the town's going to be that much of a panda poacher than mafia can just do the same thing. They don't hit the VI. Then what? We doom ourselves? Chances are we change our mind and the mafia are 1 up on us. Basically, the plan revolves entirely around wifom, which should rarely be used in mafia.

Alright, we have two explantions from why they voted Proctat. What about you, Sinquity?

I guess my entire plan is based around the assumption that mafia doesn't want to lose, which isn't such a safe assumption at all apparently.
I guess equally viable would be that the Vigilante nightkill the VI as soon as VI is revealed.

Town really can't lose from killing VI at night, because either VI will go or Godfather will go, and they should both be priorities IMO.
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SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
October 06 2010 02:46 GMT
#380
On October 06 2010 11:38 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 11:29 SiNiquity wrote:
This presumes the Mafia is in a position to win - if they feel like they're losing, then it's the town's game to lose by following through with the lynch.

As long as the mafia are still in the game, they stand to lose by not night-killing the VI, regardless of whether it's also "the town's game to lose." To win, the mafia must remove both the VI and the town. A 1% chance to win the game is still preferable to simply losing. I know I've seen games where 1 mafia took out several town by himself with some clever lynch voting. :/

We should also try to start figuring out (if we've already done this, sorry, I just jumped in :/) what role Godfather is posing as, to help the DT do his job with the utmost accuracy. My first thought was that Godfather would pose as VI, and after that I can't decide which of the blue roles (barring DT of course) would be the most viable to pose as. Posing as bulletproof or veteran would cause the DT to defend him heavily against lynch kills, but I think the same probably applies for medic, mad hatter, and vigilante. Any other opinions?


Once the VI is truly out in the open, we could argue that Mafia forfeits now or we lynch the the VI. My point is, by lynching the VI we -also- lose, so yes if the mafia is down then they have no reason to follow through with the kill, just as we have no reason to follow through with it. Granted I see no reason why the mafia wouldn't kill the VI just to get rid of him, but I don't agree that we would be in a position to blackmail them.
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