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On August 19 2010 21:53 Korynne wrote: Uh, you can't sign up solo as in playing alone, but you can sign up solo as in I'll find you a partner. that's what i meant, sorry | ||
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On August 21 2010 10:14 Radfield wrote: Subscription...? to teen vogue, duh | ||
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On August 22 2010 07:36 Foolishness wrote: Whoever wants to be with infundibulum should type /INfundibulum! tee hee | ||
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On September 21 2010 04:08 LSB wrote: That's not a slip up. We are pretty certain that team 2 is mafia. I just want a few more posts from them. What makes you think so? I'm curious, because Team 2 isn't on my radar right now for mafia. The way I see it - Bumatlarge seems drunk, Divinek made one post where he completely misunderstood how the game works, and SR talked about the merits of lynch vs no lynch. none of this says 'mafia' to me. | ||
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On September 21 2010 17:36 Incognito wrote: Again, I'm not saying your statement was a lie. I'm saying that the motiviations for your post are shaky. Everyone reading this post should be looking at the subjective question of why LSB is posting the way he is. Reading LSB's posts at face value isn't going to get us anywhere. Its not a matter of lie or truth. Its a matter of what seems realistic given the mindset of the poster. LSB's recent "analysis" on Team 2 cannot be considered a natural pro-town sign since he only posted it under pressure from 3 people. So don't use this as an excuse for why you're town. It won't work. At this point, LSB is certainly scum in my book. I'll be voting for him and I suggest everyone else does too. We need this lynch for the information. At this many people are voting no-lynch, which is just terrible for information gathering purposes. By the way, Team 7 is also mafia. We will lynch them tomorrow after we lynch Team 1 today. Main Points: 1) LSB's defense is ineffective because superficially addresses his "normal" behavior. 2) LSB's current "abnormal" behavior is just icing on the cake. The real point is the mindset behind this behavior switch. 3) Lynch Team 1 today I just want to support my partner here. We've talked about it and i personally think it doesn't matter if we no lynch today or not, as long as we do use it, but i'd like to see some red blood day 1. One thing that strikes me about LSB's accusation toward team 2 is that it feels like he is picking out an 'easy target' (no offense to team 2). However, myself and BM and possibly(?) other people have stated they don't think team 2 is mafia and i stand by my conviction here. Either LSB is misguided, or he was hoping to lead the town to vote on a group of players that tend to appear scummy even when they're town - just look at recent games to see what I mean. Personally I think the absence of Foolishness, especially after his initial long postings, is something to note. I don't know if it's suspicious or coincidental. Rastaban has also been uncharacteristically quiet, in my opinion. ## vote team 1 | ||
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To team 1's credit, Pyrr is not playing the way he usually does when he is mafia - it's mostly LSB that send off alarms for me. Still I think it's weird that LSB goes "we're certain team 2 is mafia" and then Pyrr denies it. | ||
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YellowInk has a point that it would be stupid to use our no lynch today, when we don't need to, when we could potentially end up in a missed lynch = loss situation later in the game. I think this is the strongest argument against lynching Day 1. Is there something amiss with this logic that i'm not grasping? | ||
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On September 22 2010 06:00 Foolishness wrote: That will be the situation if we No Lynch now. Barring medic saves of course. ok, I see what you're saying. the problem is that this the only way no lynching today is right is if we have the "best case" scenario of no medic (or no medic saves). i hate playing under the assumption that everything is going to go swimmingly - i'd rather plan our plays to accommodate for the worst case scenario. no lynching day 1 doesn't do this. The extra time is lost later if there is a medic save. So I think the choice comes down to: assume best case, get 'extra time' now VS. assume worst case, get 'extra time' later. I think there's pros and cons to each play... on one hand having more time now is good because there are more players. on the other, using the no lynch when it can protect town from a precarious situation can save the game @ BM sorry, i must have missed that post of yours. gotta give credit where credit is due. at this point it looks like no lynch is pretty far in the lead anyway :s | ||
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On September 22 2010 08:25 Foolishness wrote: No no no no no I'm assuming worst case scenario in everything. No medic and/or no medic saves is worst case for town. If there is indeed a medic save along the way, that puts mafia at a huge disadvantage because medic can claim. Forcing mafia to counterclaim at the least. We'll deal with that if it happens. We no lynch now we will never have a precarious situation later. It's better to be in a precarious situation with a medic. Of course if you are actually mafia, then yes, best case scenario for you is no medic and/or no medic saves. Is that what you meant? Maybe I misunderstand you? i thought you were saying: 1. we no lynch now 2. there are no medic saves 3. town then avoids any situation where we would have needed a no lynch but don't have one anymore Therefore the 'best case' scenario for no lynching day 1 is that there are no medic saves right? Because a medic save screws up the math, and makes 3v1 possible again? I thought that's what you were saying. I mean obviously every and any hit saved by a medic is a good thing, but in terms of lynch/no lynch math it throws a wrench in the works which is why i thought it was dangerous to make a plan to no lynch that's only good if we assume that one particular set of outcomes are going to happen. this is a really strange Day 1 for me - every other game I've played on TL people have been adamantly against no lynching | ||
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On September 22 2010 08:50 Pandain wrote: No you silly mongoose, you don't understand. You see, if we had medic claim he would have to protect himself. And then mafia would know to avoid him. Now, so what are the benefits of this? 1. We have confirmed townie(or mafia, so this isn't even that good.) We know not to lynch him. But if he just protects himself without saying anything, then it will still have the same benefits but mafia won't know to avoid him, therefore we have the possibility of drawing hits into medic protection. Medic claiming is just a useless tidbit that will help mafia. Also, you got me killed because "I had no plan" that game, even though that setup was worse for plans!(no role information whatsoever) So shut that "Well we can't make plans" i dont know. it's kind of established at this point that a medic should protect himself. so if the mafia make a hit and it gets blocked, they can assume whoever they targeted was the medic. since the mafia obviously knows who they target, i think it makes sense for the medic to claim then. i'm not sure what happens if a medic protects someone else and blocks a hit though. just precursory thoughts are that if the medic makes a save, he should probably claim - i get the feeling mafia fakeclaims are potentially very powerful in this game | ||
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On September 22 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well if the medic gets confirmed it would give the cop someone to claim to, if we also have a cop. The cop could check the medic and then pass info through the medic (there's no GF role or anything to make a faulty check). this doesn't work, no PMs between teams. | ||
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On September 22 2010 21:24 Pandain wrote: Why? Do you require feedback on something? I'm at school but thanks to the leniency of teachers I'm able to be on the computer alot. But don't expect me to be super active during 8-3 EST or so. Did Korynne ever confirm whether or not mafia have to make a kill each night? I just PM'd her the same question, then noticed you mentioned it in the thread. I'm also asking whether or not people are notified if they are saved by a medic. If they aren't notified by the host then it becomes a lot harder (impossible?) to confirm someone via protection. I kinda want to move past this topic but feel it would be good to tie up those 2 loose ends. | ||
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On September 23 2010 09:35 Infundibulum wrote: Did Korynne ever confirm whether or not mafia have to make a kill each night? I just PM'd her the same question, then noticed you mentioned it in the thread. I'm also asking whether or not people are notified if they are saved by a medic. If they aren't notified by the host then it becomes a lot harder (impossible?) to confirm someone via protection. I kinda want to move past this topic but feel it would be good to tie up those 2 loose ends. 1. mafia must make a hit each night 2. there is NOT pm notification if a medic makes a save. | ||
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My current thoughts are that Pyrr isn't playing in his normal red style (did i say this before? i think i did) and that i'm a fair bit more suspicious of team 7's postings. At this point since Pyrr/LSB ar trying to shovel suspicion back onto myself and my team, they are either townies that feel like we're "out to get them" or mafia trying to evade and throw back attacks as distraction. Skimming the thread i've seen a lot of scrutiny on meeple but not so much on his partner. Guys remember that we should look at all players on a team and not just one - we really can't afford to miss a lynch. Most glaring to me is that yellowink seems to be consistently ignoring questions about himself, as well as making posts that seem to be intentionally vague (for example: saying he's convinced about team 6 being mafia, but not saying why). Unlike teams 1 and 7, team 6 has hardly any analysis on them, so at this point i think it's weird that they're getting votes. | ||
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On September 25 2010 11:07 SouthRawrea wrote: Is it just me or is it hard to keep track of days? I'm not sure if it's just for this game but I seem to be oblivious of when the next day is coming. you aren't alone - i had no idea it was ending this soon | ||
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