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On August 29 2010 03:11 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 03:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 02:59 Radfield wrote:
So ALL mafia get seen visiting. Now, assuming we had 4 mafia in the game to start, would a watcher see 4 or 3 mafia last night given that a mafia died during the night.
Which is resolved first, mafia dying, or mafia killing? Well time for Zeks to role claim. xD He's either BP, or Vet. Yup, because there are very likely 4 mafia to start, which means no medic visited zeks last night. The watcher role actually comes in handy! I wouldn't have though it possible  I can't believe picks 5 and 6 might have both picked traitor.... so sad. I have a feeling we have very few investigative roles.
Speaking of which, I feel like it's time to say something. This either gives town more information, or more importantly leaves scum unsure who is who.
I did not pick mason, even though I did originally.
I changed it n.n
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On August 29 2010 04:41 zeks wrote:
Radfield: I went with the 33/33/33 role cop / copy cat / defensive role because there was mention that copycat should be picked earlier. I truthfully randomed my role.
Something that I've discovered
SR #6 below me is assumed vanilla town, Subversion at #7 was vanilla mafia
Which means Subversion could've overlaped with
1. rastaban CV
2. chaoser Bad Santa/traitor
3. LSB PoD/traitor
5. me RC/CC/Defensive role/traitor
Likelihood of Subversion picking
CV
next to nothing
Bad Santa or PoD
Don't see why Subversion will pick those either.
Traitor:
He's scum so he wouldn't pick traitor.
me: RC/CC/Defensive Role
Subversion likely overlapped with me and since Subversion is dead then it is likely that scum would know what my role is...
Unless Subversion overlapped with SouthRawrea, then that means South never picked traitor in the beginning - which doesn't make sense because South would be a townie with a role but lied about being a traitor
Thus conclusion: mafia knows my role and wants me dead by lynch since they couldn't finish the job last night
Which is why I'm not claiming because they will call me out on it.
You're claiming rolecop?
mafia knows me role and wants me dead by lynch since they couldn't finish the job last night.
O.o. What other role could it be.
Also again, WAS ANYONE ROLEBLOCKED! It won't hurt you to tell(right?)
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On August 29 2010 04:56 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Why would mafia hit zeks if they knew his role? I guess I kinda confirmed hes a defense role, since he survived after 4 people visited, and now that seems unlikely its anything but a red visit. Exactly! Mafia would only hit zeks if they knew he was the rolecop! But then why did he survive? Because he's the serial killer
But he's the rolecop.
Therefore, Zeks claim serial killer rolecop or we lynch you. As you very well know if town loses, you do as well. Help us find the scum.
Or you can continue to be ambiguious, and maybe we'll believe you.
But I doubt that's going to happen.
Don't lynch zeks, even if he's serial killer, he's still rolecop.
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Again, was anyone roleblocked?
Is there a chance theres no roleblocker?
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theres only one thing I don't get: explain this quote
On August 29 2010 04:41 zeks wrote:
Thus conclusion: mafia knows my role and wants me dead by lynch since they couldn't finish the job last night
Which is why I'm not claiming because they will call me out on it.
Defend it well enough and I may have something that can save you :p
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On August 29 2010 06:01 Radfield wrote:
Yup, a doctor should claim if they saved him or not. It's worth it to keep our role cop.
Agreed, doctor should claim as it will be worth saving our role cop, or catching a potential serial killer/traitor(?).
Unless of course zeks explains that quote of his, in which case I may be able to help him based on my own decision.
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On August 29 2010 06:45 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 06:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:20 LSB wrote:On August 29 2010 06:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned. We know he's rolecop, I was the one to prove it. The problem is if he is town aligned. Zeks, if you are town aligned, please do not disclose Fishball's Role. Fishball could be thinking of a strategy, and it is always bad for Mafia to know more blue roles than necessary. How did you prove it? You picked before him. This hinges on Subversion of picking RoleCop, not PoD/BadSanta/CompVig...If one of those roles picked traitor, then he he could of picked any of those, albeit be wrong. Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:52 LSB wrote:
Here's what I think. It seems so Obvious, I'm facepalming myself for not noticing it.
Subversion Picked Rolecop. I am 100% certain, he is mafia, Rolecop is THE town role here.
We should have already figured that out
This is confirmed because Zeks claims that he has a role that the mafia wants dead.
But was blocked, so mafia knows that Zeks is Rolecop
Mafia tries to kill Zeks
But! Zeks is actually Serial Killer. So it doesn't work!!
Zeks CANNOT claim, because we know that a doctor couldn't have protected him.
##VOTE: Zeks Because he is Serial Killer.
Note, SK will not work for us, he is decidedly anti town
Actually, while I'm going to believe you unless a doctor claims he protected Zeks, your whole "proof" relies on that Subversion picked rolecop. Given only 20 minutes to pick, its not unlikely mafia was unprepared for a replacement/was not on on that time. I wouldn't be surprised if subversion, trying to find a good mafia role and unaware of the plan(correct?), picked either
CV(duh)
Prince of darkness(good mafia role)
or even bad santa(at the very list interesting/grants KP)
But again, I'm going to vote for zeks because
1.He claimed rolecop
2.He won't explain that quote
3. A doctor hasn't said he protected him.
I'll wait till probably ~7 tommorow just to give time for a doctor to claim, but until then my mind's set on voting Zeks.
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On August 26 2010 08:57 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 06:00 Radfield wrote:
That leaves picks 2-4. The most dangerous player there right now is pick #3. If LSB is mafia, and took PoD according to the plan(which he likely would if mafia), then chances are he will use it tonight. With all the focus being on picks 2-4, there is a very good chance he will get found out in the next day or so. Hence, if mafia, he will use the power tonight.
Thats assuming I am mafia. But the fact is, as town, I'm not going to use my ability. Unless you give me an extremaly compelling reason. I will not use it. Hypothetical, say I was mafia and I followed your plan. Boom! I get revealed. I die. That's a pretty bad plan for the mafia Show nested quote +What I'm saying here, is that if we accept that picks 2-4 are equally likely to be the traitor, then we should lynch pick 3, solely for the additional reason that if mafia, he is extremely dangerous, and will likely use his power tonight(so time is of the essence on the lynch). However, the thing is, 2-4 are NOT equally likely to be the traitor. Check out my post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141431¤tpage=29#575I claim that Spot 4 is the most likely to be traitor.
Secret messages? n.n
+ Show Spoiler +Its obviously a coincidence, a loose one if that too. Just found it partly funny. Hmm... it seems now it won't show it in correct order. Look at first word of each line :p original post
Also south, aren't you also assuming that there's 4 mafia? There could be 3(although unlikely, its a possibility)
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On August 29 2010 07:44 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 07:26 Pandain wrote:On August 26 2010 08:57 LSB wrote:On August 26 2010 06:00 Radfield wrote:
That leaves picks 2-4. The most dangerous player there right now is pick #3. If LSB is mafia, and took PoD according to the plan(which he likely would if mafia), then chances are he will use it tonight. With all the focus being on picks 2-4, there is a very good chance he will get found out in the next day or so. Hence, if mafia, he will use the power tonight.
Thats assuming I am mafia. But the fact is, as town, I'm not going to use my ability. Unless you give me an extremaly compelling reason. I will not use it. Hypothetical, say I was mafia and I followed your plan. Boom! I get revealed. I die. That's a pretty bad plan for the mafia What I'm saying here, is that if we accept that picks 2-4 are equally likely to be the traitor, then we should lynch pick 3, solely for the additional reason that if mafia, he is extremely dangerous, and will likely use his power tonight(so time is of the essence on the lynch). However, the thing is, 2-4 are NOT equally likely to be the traitor. Check out my post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141431¤tpage=29#575I claim that Spot 4 is the most likely to be traitor. Secret messages? n.n + Show Spoiler +Its obviously a coincidence, a loose one if that too. Just found it partly funny. Hmm... it seems now it won't show it in correct order. Look at first word of each line :p original postAlso south, aren't you also assuming that there's 4 mafia? There could be 3(although unlikely, its a possibility) Pandain you can't give away the code for the secret friendship alliance =O! Is Halarious! XD. Now I wish I was traitor so I could say I thought of that myself Mafia would defiantly know that I'm speaking in code!
You know, its stuff like this that really makes me dislike you. I mean, when the town's thinking you just will start spouting your own thing. LIke here the town had already decided that we were going to let SR die, and then convienantly you just happen to "prove" he's SK. *sigh* I guess I'll have to think about it tonight.
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Aw wrong order. Preview function ftl.
That wasn't serious
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On August 29 2010 13:45 zeks wrote:
I really want Ace to confirm whether the pardon worked or not soon - I do have further information that I would like to reveal before I'm hung in 3 hours
I really want to go to sleep soon, I'm driving 9 hours to New York tomorrow morning...(7am est)
might wanna say it before your lynched.
also, <3 you too opz.
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frick that was supposed to be ambiguous so I could get more info...
okay. I'm the pardoner. I just don't think he's mafia.
Zeks reveal your info now. Unless you want to hide it for some reason.
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Okay I'm not the pardoner. I wanted to keep it going but if zeks has info(which he should've shared anyway)
Can you still share it? Since your going to be lynched but not yhet? I mean, your not dead yet and the offical end hasn't been reached.
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On August 29 2010 14:00 zeks wrote:
Okay whatever I'm going to sleep - whether Pandain you decide to unpardon me or w/e after me giving you the following info is totally up to you. I'm going to maintain that I am town until my last living breath.
(and if you're actually not pardoner i hate you for playing this practical joke =| )
Fishball did not follow the Radfield draft plan, my role-cop-check returned Bullet Bill.
Did you not look at my last post?
Its okay guys, I'm martyr. I'll protect fishball.
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ROFL same time post.
I'm sorry, that is so funny.
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My thoughts on what to do:
1.Fishball reveal what you found for one. You've already been revealed.
2. I'm going to martyr protect fishball, and I want a medic on him as well. Therefore, even a roleblocker can't stop fishball from living as one of the protect actions will get through.
Or maybe I should martyr someone else? But then what if two doctors aren't here? I think we should be safe with me martyring.
3. The last post by fishball before the game truly started(but after number deadline) was when he was number 7. I'm thinknig he didn't change it in time. Maybe this is just an excuse however. That's why I think fishball revealing will help us.
4. We need to find out who the traitor is as well. Either LSB or chaoser. Chaoser's my boi, so I say LSB. Although LSB did find the SK.(incrediably pro town). Perhaps we should lynch south to see if he is in fact telling the truth?
Dw guys, Pandain the Pandasaver is here to save your souls and Jesus them up. Martyr ftw.
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On August 29 2010 14:46 chaoser wrote:
Pandain, why are you multi claiming...also, we still haven't resolved this traitor business...either SR lied or LSB is traitor.
Screw you, you know I was going to let you slide off for now but its time to bust the real taco stand.
Im the real rolecop, I checked Chaoser and he's a fake. He's Vengeful player.
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On August 29 2010 14:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:
obvious....listen to me, ignore pandain
No but serious the post with the jesus thing was serious. I'm martyr, and those are valid plans.
And why shouldn't we protect fishball, opz? I mean, as I've said its very possible he missed the change deadline.
What I would like is for someone to see whether he posted on another forum/thread after the draft list changed. That would be helpfull.
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On August 29 2010 14:53 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 14:52 Pandain wrote:On August 29 2010 14:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:
obvious....listen to me, ignore pandain No but serious the post with the jesus thing was serious. I'm martyr, and those are valid plans. And why shouldn't we protect fishball, opz? I mean, as I've said its very possible he missed the change deadline. What I would like is for someone to see whether he posted on another forum/thread after the draft list changed. That would be helpfull. no it wouldn't shut up you're a waste of post space
No one appreciated my humor? Oh well I guess I'll be all formal :/.
And you haven't been any better JeeJee, as I've noted you're posts have been lacking content severely, contrasting with your play in such games as PYP 1, where while you posted few, they had content and were long. Now your either repeating stuff, irrelevant info, or the such. Nothing really worthwhile.
But here I still stand in hypocrisy. We should talk about who the CV should kill.
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