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On August 26 2010 10:20 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 10:08 zeks wrote:On August 26 2010 10:07 BrownBear wrote:On August 26 2010 09:28 Subversion wrote:
shame, pandain always has suspicion thrown on him.
last game i played with him he was also suspected quite a lot, but he was in fact town. not that he's above suspicion, just take ur feelings towards him with a pinch of salt.
To be fair, he was not town, he was ninja (3rd party role). He was just playing more town-aligned. You can also go a game back when he was Miller That game he was the miller from hell. In general he is a bit like Bill M and naturally fits Ace's description of "obvious scum to the point of destroying the entire game (the easiest to lynch but the hardest to find a trail after they die)".
"Hey Pandain, you don't have to respond, but I just wanted to say you played a great red game. Talk to me after the game. I don't know how much of a role you played behind the scenes but you were textbook red..."
n.n
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On August 26 2010 14:08 Ace wrote:
Pfft. I got 2 wisdom teeth pulled out each time a week apart. They had to cut in to my gums and the dentist left the nerves hanging so my tongue kept twitching on it.
No codeine.
Just blood and tears while I couldn't lull myself to sleep due to the pain.
You'll make it ^_^
Ha! You think that's tough?
I had all my teeth pulled out while I was still awake. It was all in 10 minutes, one a minute. Then they took out my fingernails and forced all the yanked teeth as replacements.
*cue next 1 up*
Anyway, I just want everyone to remember that its 10 for majority lynch. So, I think we should think it out before auto-lynching him. Not saying we won't, just have to think about it.
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On August 27 2010 02:13 Fishball wrote:
Yeah, Paldian , whoever you are, speak up!
*Whisks off his mask.*
Curses! How did you konw I was really Paldain the whole time?
But I'm confused by your statement LSB. What do I have to explain and why would I have motives(unless you're accusing me of mafia, in which case I wouldn't tell you  )
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On August 27 2010 02:31 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 02:25 Pandain wrote:On August 27 2010 02:13 Fishball wrote:
Yeah, Paldian , whoever you are, speak up! *Whisks off his mask.* Curses! How did you konw I was really Paldain the whole time? But I'm confused by your statement LSB. What do I have to explain and why would I have motives(unless you're accusing me of mafia, in which case I wouldn't tell you ) I just want to see where you stand. I believe if you're town, you'd have a logical reason.
Where I stand on what?
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On August 27 2010 02:41 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 02:38 Pandain wrote:On August 27 2010 02:31 LSB wrote:On August 27 2010 02:25 Pandain wrote:On August 27 2010 02:13 Fishball wrote:
Yeah, Paldian , whoever you are, speak up! *Whisks off his mask.* Curses! How did you konw I was really Paldain the whole time? But I'm confused by your statement LSB. What do I have to explain and why would I have motives(unless you're accusing me of mafia, in which case I wouldn't tell you ) I just want to see where you stand. I believe if you're town, you'd have a logical reason. Where I stand on what? Use of my power
Originally I thought it might be useful in extreme situations but then I realized that using it is basically just skipping a day(which it is). I was thinking about getting two night actions from town roles, but in reality we're just skipping a lynch to get there.
So no, never use it.
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Some notes/thoughts
Of all the people, Hesmyrr is the only one who might've been traitor in my eyes. Even then I doubted it. I just don't see why any of the people who picked traitor would. Rastaban is confirmed CV of course now. So it's either zeks, chaoser, or LSB. Chaoser's bad santa, a very interesting role in my eyes, LSB is Prince of Darkness, no doubts there. Though perhaps he may have had grievances about not being able to use it(still, its for good of town so why would he pick traitor?)
Zeks therefore would seem most likely yet even then I'm hesitant because he had the most chance of getting a good role(rolecop).
It just seems to me that none of these people would pick traitor. Which leads to the suspicion that again, SR is lying. However, we're going to lynch him afterwards.
Or are we? for what if SR is vengeful player,as some people have brought up. Yet we can't just rely on the CV to do it, as mafia roleblocker is definitely going to roleblock him if SR is traitor/mafia.They might even roleblock him just so then we have to lynch him to be sure. I also think its a surefire bet that mafia have roleblocker as well.
Therefore, I say we lynch SR tommorow, even though he could be VP.
As you can see, I am totally confuzzled.
Medics: Don't protect either of 1-5.(especially 2-5). Why? Mafia isn't going to target any of those people because that would just give town a greater chance of finding the traitor. I would say protect 7-10 as that seems to be the most liklihood of being an important blue role there.
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On August 28 2010 00:58 Radfield wrote:
[*]Pandain ---- Mason
[/list]
How do you know I'm mason
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On August 28 2010 09:12 Radfield wrote:Fuck. We have a new target for the medic. Assuming people followed the plan(  ), we have 4 possible role cops. Zeks: Could be traitor Fishball: 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive Role Brownbear: Vanilla Bill Murray: Mason Good chance we have no role cop.... Anyways, Fishball becomes a higher priority medic protection. Mind you he is still a 50% Defensive role, but if Mafia have a roleblocker, they may roleblock + NK. It's what I would do. Not even sure who's around right now. Remember medics, there are 2 of you(hopefully) and the Joat, so feel free to flip a coin or RNG between the potential candidates.
Actually, I noticed that but wasn't sure whether to say anything.
More importantly, Bullet bill.
#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness
#4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD
#5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#7 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.)
#15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other
On August 28 2010 00:58 Radfield wrote:whoops, messed up the list command(always preview!). Should look like this: - rastaban---- Comp Vig
- Chaoser ---- Bad Santa
- LSB ---- Prince of Darkness
- Hesmyrr ---- Vanilla
- Zeks ---- Role Cop, Defensive role or Copy Cat(??)
- Southrawrea ---- Traitor ------> Vanilla
- Subversion --- Picked whatever, Did not follow the plan
- Fishball
- Opz ---- Followed the plan --> Joat or Defensive role
- Citizen
- BrownBear
- JeeJee
- DarthThienAn
- siNiquity
- Divinek ----- Day Vig
- Radfield
- Bill Murray ---- Mason
- Bumatlarge
- Pandain ---- Mason
50% from citizen, and 25 % of darth. And darth was recoomended for doctor.
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AMERICAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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On August 28 2010 10:12 Divinek wrote:
woah
lol sick, who can kill night one?
and good job medic! or vet or something, who took a hit?
Don't roleclaim. It makes mafia unable to tell whether they actually hit a good role or the target just got medic protection.
And roleclaiming won't help us anyway since no pms. Only thing it does is make them confirmed, but even then that isn't that helpful. If really need be he can say he got hit if he's going to die.
Also, the serial killer did.
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On August 28 2010 10:17 zeks wrote:
I survived the hit last night.
wtf did i just say
Fadoodle my life
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A compilation of the posts of JeeJee
On August 21 2010 09:17 JeeJee wrote:
well
i'm obviously picking 1/1, i shotgunned it, no blitz, gtfo DTA. there's no reason for any townie to double up on my number because i'm obviously picking CV if i get first, and we get a double lynch, all the time.
copy cat is an interesting one though.. it's mostly only important if CV dies first. not sure about it being the #2 pick
Here is his first post after the game starts. Just claims his number, says a role may be useful(via the use of one line)
On August 23 2010 11:06 JeeJee wrote:
thats it brownbear im taking dayvig and shooting yo ass
spam no content
On August 25 2010 15:12 JeeJee wrote:
meh could be worse
at least we don't have to worry about CC now
one line again.
On August 26 2010 10:52 JeeJee wrote:
##vote:hesmyrr
to be frank, being told to pick a role just to confirm others have picked it probably doesn't sound like too great of an idea. i can see a "fuck that i'm going traitor" reaction following that
Votes for him based on the fact that "yeah he couldd be bored. Hasn't contributed besides this vote on the whole traitor issue. So votes on wifom.
On August 26 2010 10:53 JeeJee wrote:
and to the above, there's another 24 hours left in the voting
Here he again mantains the appeareance of being active, but note he hasn't really made any real contributions, any real analysis on anything, and most of his posts consist of one liners, mostly irrelevant.
On August 26 2010 13:24 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 12:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 26 2010 11:49 Ace wrote:On August 26 2010 11:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Obvious. He types my name, and breadcrumbs zeks, using my name for the z, so if mafia hit him and zeks is mafia, we know to lynch zeks...hurdur....
xD...
Or he makes a case against zeks, without saying he role checked him. If he starts going against someone he checked, then pops detective.
If he starts saying "blah blah, this person is right, blah blah" then that person is good.
Ace, Does RoleCop return role of mafia if the mafia investigated has another role, such as detective/medic/ect?
6.)What happens if a RoleCop checks someone without a role?
The result they get back is VANILLA. Otherwise the RC would be almost better than the Alignment Cop in this setup which would make no sense.
So if they do have a role the Role Cop...gets a role.
Right...Wow... ##Vote Radfield"Alignment Cop is weak compared to Role Cop" That ends my reasoning. Wow. We just walked down a windy road to death. the hell are you babbling about
one line no content
On August 26 2010 14:26 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 14:12 Pandain wrote:On August 26 2010 14:08 Ace wrote:
Pfft. I got 2 wisdom teeth pulled out each time a week apart. They had to cut in to my gums and the dentist left the nerves hanging so my tongue kept twitching on it.
No codeine.
Just blood and tears while I couldn't lull myself to sleep due to the pain.
You'll make it ^_^ Ha! You think that's tough? I had all my teeth pulled out while I was still awake. It was all in 10 minutes, one a minute. Then they took out my fingernails and forced all the yanked teeth as replacements. *cue next 1 up* ![[image loading]](http://mellowvelo.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/1up.jpg)
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On August 28 2010 00:18 JeeJee wrote:
i do find it odd that sr is asking himself to be lynched just because he guessed the traitor placement wrong. if anything, he should get cv'd, but if he flips vanilla town, we wouldn't be any further along and i don't think a mafia would just ask for a selflynch (wifom blah blah)
otoh is traitor hunting even that high of a priority? unless mafia kp goes up to 2 with that extra player, its not like it's monumental enough to drop everything else imo
Here we see the most contribution ever from him thus far. He comments on south's line to be lynched, and even says that it's all wifom however.
Basically, he has the appearance of contributing but no real content.
More importantly, note that he's also saying that we should drop the whole traitor thing. I would say one of the top 5 being traitor(when the top 5 were some of the more useful/dangerous roles[whether to mafia or town] counts as being monumental.
On August 28 2010 06:20 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 03:29 bumatlarge wrote:
It would appear his slinking has come to rest. Vanilla is vanilla unlike chocolate, it is just vanilla. But vanilla can be good or evil, if my philosophy fails me not. Suspicion agreed upon the field of radicals, and the darth in the darth. Accept you yoke of guilt!
Jester you ways are foriegn, but your lake is sound and your babbly logitimicatel pleasent. Though the humor in your face leads me to beleive you dabble in the sardonic? Intriguing.
Perhaps the time is now? Let me check my wrist device... Egad indeed, the time IS now! Good heavens. And undereestimate no role. I recall a life I lead not so long ago. The king was hard, but he has died recently. He graced me with a peculiar item that age. A wooden pedestal of sorts, yet the base spread into the ground like a organism. If I stepped upon the object, my glory of innocence was shown to all the denizens! But alas, the power would absorb me into the wood, and draw my lifeforce into those who would curse what I stood for.
I despised the device. Every day, I cursed its name and poured my malice through its veins. But exposure opens up the mind to all sorts of ideas. Another beside me claimed power, license to kill , he claimed his god would save us. Trust was difficult to come by after what he had wrought, but we agreed. I found power in my object then. I opposed his ideals, with the eagerness to prove my worth brimming with the same hatred I had embeded into the Wood. I was believed, just by the ridiculousness of what I was. "How could one so ignorant be so dangerous" The threat of my role gave me acknowledgement, however foolish the basis of it was. I killed that man, Id like to think.
Hes dead here also, murdered by his own scum brother. I rid myself of their aquaintance. But a lesson is found. Even the weakest townie holds sway just by existence. What he brings to the table is the reason why mafia fear extermination for their foul pacts with satan. Good will prevail with hope in what we can do together. I believe this deity knows of karma. the fuck is this? im getting you killed.
o.O
On August 28 2010 09:23 JeeJee wrote:now mafia won't hit BB question is, who is getting played here?
useless wifom(aka is he lying or just saying he's lying)
Basically all his posts are void of content, or when they do rely on wifom. He doesn't make any strong opinions or original ones, and he just generally seems apathetic to everything.
Now I wanted to check back in his previous games as I don't know his style. Other people can comment on this in particular.
But as I was reading through the original PYP, his posts, while rare and only one/two every couple pages or so, had content. It was paragraphs long. They had questions for people, offered ideas, or just generally helped. They had content! They had opinions! Note this with this, in which he seems to be just generally okay with staying in the shadows. Big change. Note JeeJee was town that game.
I had just noticed this and wanted feeback on this guy, especially radfield(as he seems he really knows what he's talking about.) While I suspect JeeJee, I am only offering him as a potential list if we are not going to lynch SR.
As I tend to be wrong, again please comment and expand/pick out flaws.
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On August 28 2010 10:47 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 10:14 Pandain wrote:On August 28 2010 10:12 Divinek wrote:
woah
lol sick, who can kill night one?
and good job medic! or vet or something, who took a hit? Don't roleclaim. It makes mafia unable to tell whether they actually hit a good role or the target just got medic protection. And roleclaiming won't help us anyway since no pms. Only thing it does is make them confirmed, but even then that isn't that helpful. If really need be he can say he got hit if he's going to die. Also, the serial killer did. of course you wouldn't roleclaim that would be retarded it's perfectly fine to say who took the hit because MAFIA KNOW, so we might as well know too, ya dig? so good on zeks for actually telling us i totally forgot the sk existed, nice sniping by him even though he's the enemy 
Forgive me, it seemed like you wanted him to roleclaim(since yousaid "and good job medic! or vet or something, who took a hit?" it had seemed like you wanted to find out if it was a vet or protection) My bad.
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On August 28 2010 12:18 citi.zen wrote:
If Zeks lied there would presumably be another person out there who took a mafia hit, unless the mafia made the nonsensical decision not to hit anyone. Also, given how fast he claimed, I doubt he is the traitor - too little time to come up with such a plan.
If Zeks told the truth, either Southrawarea lied, or there is a traitor in the top 3.
or zeks is telling the truth, he got hit, and he's traitor so he got recruited isntead of killed
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On August 28 2010 16:53 DarthThienAn wrote:
Hmm.
Let's assume zeks is traitor and was recruited by a mafia night action. Assuming no one counterclaims taking a hit later today, mafia targeted him with their night kill - like someone said, win/win in regard to zeks being #5 and possible traitor.
What are the advantages of him coming forward about being hit? Well, it buys him credibility (posting almost immediately), and it's a pro-town thing to claim after being hit by mafia (it was obviously a mafia hit, unless, again, a counterclaim later today).
What are the disadvantages? People know he took a hit, and therefore, he's thrust into the spotlight. Why would he claim if he could've just slipped by while the town raged about someone not coming forward? Stay in the shadows, etc. To me, it makes a lot more sense for him not to say anything, and to stay under the radar and all that. So I really doubt that he's the traitor.
Another thing I'd like to point out is that mafia most likely don't have roleblocker - zeks would've claimed "roleblocked" as well if that was the case, correct? It makes the most sense for mafia to roleblock + night hit the same person, just in case of bulletproof. Especially with only 1 KP, it makes missing a hit/failing a hit extremely costly for them. This is assuming that zeks isn't a traitor lying to us of course.
Interesting point about the roleblock. If anyone was roleblocked, please say so now. You do find out that you were roleblocked, correct? This will help us pin down mafia roles.
Also, please comment on JeeJee and your perspective on him from previous games/this one.
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On August 29 2010 00:44 LSB wrote:Subversion Post analysis He barely posted anything, all he has is a Post about Pandain and a post about SR (Pandian) + Show Spoiler +On August 26 2010 09:28 Subversion wrote:
shame, pandain always has suspicion thrown on him.
last game i played with him he was also suspected quite a lot, but he was in fact town. not that he's above suspicion, just take ur feelings towards him with a pinch of salt.
(SR) + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2010 13:02 Subversion wrote:
does he actually REALLY want to be lynched tho? (lol frank pearce joke not intended)
or is he just saying "ahhh wow i suck i failed might as well lynch me" while knowing we probably won't do that at all.
i dont know, for me personally his post didnt actually make me consider lynching him. Conclusion, we cannot figure out anything, Subversion acted like a Mafia lurking. Still, a scum dead is always a good thing!
He has alot more posts you left out(prob 16 in all). Half of them were irrelevant of course, but do note he was against lynching south, stating so in 2 or so posts.
could be trying to regain cred of course, but given this and the fact we were supposed to lynch south, shouldn't we be doing that? Unless someone wants to offer a new lynch target...
##Vote Southrablahblah
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On August 29 2010 02:18 bumatlarge wrote:
Time to be useful. I am the god damn batman
BumAtLarge was less tipsy then he wanted to be that night, stumbling around people's backyards. He had his favorite batman mask on of course. He found himself in a bush, right next to zeks' backdoor! What a nice gentleman, always giving bum change. Before bum had the chance to leave the kind man's abode, a spiffy looking fellow came through the backway (only zeks' closest friends came that way). Bum's vision was wiggty-wack, so he couldnt recognize him. Zeks greeted the man late at night with open arms. Soon after a scruffy man with blood in his eyes, looking for answers cam crashing over the fence. he almost ran right into bum, but he was to preoccupied with his mission (whatever that was. Immediately two other men broke from hiding paces, ignoring each other and heading straight through the backdoor. A large tussel took place, and bum was too drunk to actually help (HE WASNT SCARED, HES THE GODDAMN BATMAN)
Moments later, all 4 men left chasing one another into the night. Zeks, alive thank heavens, stared out at them a few seconds with a wide open mouth, that turned into determination rather quickly. He phoned the police, and bum knew better then to loiter much longer.
The next day, zeks stood in trial to decide the truth to his story. It turns out he was a suspect in the mishandling of some docuements, leading people to doubt him. Bum came up as his alter ego, Brum Warge, homeless philosopher extraordinaire. He verified zeks tune, and gave zeks a wink, but zeks was glaring intently ahead, that determined look again. Bum couldn't really sort out zeks motives, as he never finished 3rd grade, but he was willing to put his life in the hands of the town with zeks to authenticate what happened that night.
THE GOD DAMN BATMAN
What are you trying to say?
Is this anything meaningful or just useless jibber-jabberooni
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You know what I don't understand?
Why didn't mafia just use each of their roles to target #'s 1,2,3, and 5?
three roles and one kill. I mean, even if the somehow got the worst of luck and only managed to get two roles, that's still a 3/4 chance.
But according to bum zeks was visited by four people.
If 4 people visited him: I can most likely seeing it be this
1.Mafia targets him to kill
2.Mafia roleblocks him(via defensive role)
3. Medic
4.Other role, Joat, tracker, actually would bum count as one of the numbers?
Do you find out if your targeted with roleblock? If so, we need to know. Also, FoS on zeks for not saying so.
Zeks says he was hit. I can't see mafia doing that unless he was roleblocked as well. That, or they don't have a roleblocker.
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Okay guys I need to know something very important: Was anyone roleblocked?
Also, Ace, does the person find out if they are roleblocked?
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