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On August 29 2010 07:15 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 07:11 SouthRawrea wrote:On August 29 2010 07:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 29 2010 06:45 SouthRawrea wrote:On August 29 2010 06:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:20 LSB wrote:On August 29 2010 06:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned. We know he's rolecop, I was the one to prove it. The problem is if he is town aligned. Zeks, if you are town aligned, please do not disclose Fishball's Role. Fishball could be thinking of a strategy, and it is always bad for Mafia to know more blue roles than necessary. How did you prove it? You picked before him. This hinges on Subversion of picking RoleCop, not PoD/BadSanta/CompVig...If one of those roles picked traitor, then he he could of picked any of those, albeit be wrong. Nevermind. I understand. You would of been on the same team, how would you two of picked the same roles....Shit...I need to think about this a little more. I still feel Zeks is something like SK. Please elaborate. I was reading this and my thought pattern was all jumbled from my earlier post. I would like to know how he's proven. Also. 4 mafia visited Zeks either that or 4 other roles. I find it hard to believe that 4 different investigative roles visited Zeks without a single mafia doing so. If it was only mafia visiting and what he's saying about being saved is true, there would be 5 visitors. So if 4 others really did visit him, 1 doctor, 2 of this (tracker, alignment cop, bullet bill), SK and 1 watcher(doesn't count in the original 4) as I find it hard to believe even JOAT would visit him. Poor play/luck on the part of power roles if this is true. Either that or Compulsive Vig shot him but then rastaban would claim that so Zek's claim would be true correct? Thus CV did not shoot. He couldn't anyways. It was night 1. We can then conclude that Zeks was either converted or never visited by mafia. this post makes no sense 4 people visited Zeks. Any mafia actions show as all mafia visiting to the watcher. (Including ones that die by day) Thus if mafia visited Zeks, then no townies other than the watcher visited Zeks correct? Simple. However, Zeks said he was shot and protected. He couldn't have been shot by Vig as they can't shoot. He claims he was protected by the doctor. If he was protected by the doctor and shot by the mafia, the watcher would've seen 5 people visiting Zeks which is NOT the case. Thus it was either a combination of SK and town roles that visited Zeks or only mafia. The fact that Zeks is still alive means that he was either CONVERTED by mafia or was never visited by them. That better? If the SK shot Zeks then the mafia shot their own guy in Subversion. As JeeJee said, you make no sense.
Well then there you have it! Put 2 and 2 together please. NO ONE COULD HAVE SHOT Zeks! CV nor SK could've shot Zeks. Only mafia could've visited Zeks and if they did, the medic could not have as only 4 people visited. Thus Zeks is SK or traitor no buts if and ors. I'm ignoring BP because he claimed rolecop when being given an ultimatum by some of the other players.
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On August 29 2010 07:22 JeeJee wrote:
so yeah i'm not even sure we are arguing at all
you just said my analysis except you concluded with "he's either traitor or not shot by mafia at all" when the real conclusion should have been "he's either traitor or sk shot by mafia or traitor converted by mafia"
so yeah
I wanted people to make the logical connection but yeah same conclusion. I wasn't arguing with you. Just arguing with the no sense part. 
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On August 29 2010 07:26 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 08:57 LSB wrote:On August 26 2010 06:00 Radfield wrote:
That leaves picks 2-4. The most dangerous player there right now is pick #3. If LSB is mafia, and took PoD according to the plan(which he likely would if mafia), then chances are he will use it tonight. With all the focus being on picks 2-4, there is a very good chance he will get found out in the next day or so. Hence, if mafia, he will use the power tonight.
Thats assuming I am mafia. But the fact is, as town, I'm not going to use my ability. Unless you give me an extremaly compelling reason. I will not use it. Hypothetical, say I was mafia and I followed your plan. Boom! I get revealed. I die. That's a pretty bad plan for the mafia What I'm saying here, is that if we accept that picks 2-4 are equally likely to be the traitor, then we should lynch pick 3, solely for the additional reason that if mafia, he is extremely dangerous, and will likely use his power tonight(so time is of the essence on the lynch). However, the thing is, 2-4 are NOT equally likely to be the traitor. Check out my post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141431¤tpage=29#575I claim that Spot 4 is the most likely to be traitor. Secret messages? n.n + Show Spoiler +Its obviously a coincidence, a loose one if that too. Just found it partly funny. Hmm... it seems now it won't show it in correct order. Look at first word of each line :p original postAlso south, aren't you also assuming that there's 4 mafia? There could be 3(although unlikely, its a possibility)
3 would be unbalanced. Town won last game and Ace, the same host would lower mafia count? I'd hate to think of Ace as that sort of person.
#Vote Zeks
Hopefully we finally hit the traitor so my name gets cleared. SK is good too but I want vengeance for my lost role and Hesmyrr's death D:. (My fault I know D
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Actually Chaoser you're correct. I guess I overlooked that. He first claims to have been a hit and goes on with his charade of being a hit defense and then moves on to saying he's rolecop?
On August 29 2010 05:11 zeks wrote:
Or Subversion also picked a defensive role and overlapped with me.
Claims he is a defensive role.
On August 28 2010 10:17 zeks wrote:
I survived the hit last night.
Claims he was hit and survived.
Very nice catch. Didn't notice it >.>
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On August 29 2010 10:37 JeeJee wrote:
he's at L-2, chop chop
we still need to talk about CV hit tonight -- whats the plan
If he flips mafia/traitor.. don't shoot me! If he flips town, well fadoodles, I'ma have the same state of mind I guess, just more irritated. CV can shoot me if the town wants and I won't mind. If you trust me by that point in time then I guess I'll keep trying :/. We've got a couple scummy players about: JeeJee, BrownBear. I have a personal gutfeeling about Fishballs but I'll leave that be for now >.>
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On August 29 2010 11:01 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 09:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Look at divine with his half assed post, i corrected myself the post below that, and zeks clearly stated that sub was vanilla because he tried for his role, so scum knew he was role cop. They know hes SK, or protected. Maybe yo should read through before you post instigative shit butt munch. i was quoting as i went faggot said i had to leave mid post had i read the other stuffs i woulda deleted it, or left it to agitate you sadly i must leave again but i must say DONT YOU START SAYING THAT WORD TOO SOUTH, pleaaaaaaase dont seriously what do other people think of fishball
^^ It's kinda catchy though. Fadoodle on youdle! Just for you Divinek I won't though because you're my mafia partner. Wait what?
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You came out looking ignorant as Subversion was unactive during the entire game anyways and. He was likely only online for a fraction of that 2 hours.
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LSB you best be kidding. Read read readd..... D:< You're putting things out of chronological order. Zeks claimed Rolecop after you became "100% sure" Page 45 GO!
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By the way I've been pretty sick today so if I don't come on much tomorrow I'll be asleep in bed most likely.
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You may all have your way with me tonight mmm.
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Ima shoot myself in the foot or head or genitals if mafia NKed to frame me D: or something like that.. I can only hope for good results :/.
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EBWOP
nvm doesn't make sense for CV to kill Radfield. It was mafia.
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I was actually kinda thinking that there's nothing for me to do really haha. I'm not gonna try and start up a lynch on any of the top 3 as I really have run out of ideas. It also might be in town's best interest to lynch me to confirm that I've been telling the truth after 2 failed lynches (1 with a good result though haha). I'm really just waiting to see what happens.
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I'm dying.. ughhhaghhhogg..
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On September 01 2010 05:30 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 00:23 SouthRawrea wrote:
One is me :D. I'm quite obviously not going to announce the role. Basically someone picked a role that they were not supposed to pick which I had picked as well. Not a huge deal but possible mafia candidate. So 5 possible people who stole my role D:. Also I just found this little gem. Don't know why I didn't realize. This post is just way off. First off, he's happy that he picked traitor, then he says that someone picking traitor in the top 5 isn't "a huge deal." Finally, he says they might be mafia. A traitor would not be mafia, they would just be a treachorous townie. SR is just so... inauthentic(whats that word)
I was saying that to throw people off before I finally decided to announce the role. If I blatantly said that it wasn't a mafia candidate then people would know it was traitor or else what would be the point of announcing it? If I said that it wasn't a mafia role then one would think that I was outting a blue or outtin a traitor.
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LOL @ Godfather. Seriously I'm vanilla. You'd be risking too much not to vote me though. If you're gonna think of a plan, think of one that doesn't involve me as a mafia role. Seriously, all I've done is help and this is how you treat me D: . (J/k good everyone and I was glad I was able to get us a lead.)
##Vote SouthRawrea
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##Vote SouthRawrea
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Inb4 people fall for Pandain's trolling again.
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EBWOP Pandain remove your damn PARDON. You're not helping save me at all nor are you benefiting town.
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