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I have no idea how bumatlarge got only 4 people from his watch, because I'm not the SK and I lived - to my surprise so someone must've protected me.
That quote from Zeks sealed it for me, if he got protected, he KNOWS he got protected, it's not must've protected.
##vote Zeks
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Pandain, why are you multi claiming...also, we still haven't resolved this traitor business...either SR lied or LSB is traitor.
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so spamming thread with useless info...why pandain? that's so unprotown like ;_; thought we wer secret friendship alliance
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Can I ask why SR isn't dead yet? He claimed he picked traitor, said zek or hess was it. Both of them were not. Isn't is easier to kill SR to see if he was lying rather than to kill/take out the 5 people infront of him?
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Ok so radfield was on my list...but I can't use my power so that means the last four are 100% confirmed townies in my eyes at least. But if I give out my list I probably won't be able to use my KP since mafia will try to stay away from hitting them.
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Ok Ace, question. Since mafia all visit a person when they kill him, does that mean they are all "responsible" for his death? If yes, does that mean if I have even on mafia on my list, I would get my power?
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EDIT: if I have even one mafia on my list
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guys, don't vote yet. I have important info but I need Ace to answer my question first. I'll PM it to him too.
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ok guys, from what Ace said, the people on my list, if you believe me to be townie, are all innocent/townie since Radfield was on my list, he died and no one on my list was the cause of his death. My list is:
radfield, sin, ~opz~, citi.zen, bumatlarge
yeah...figure that shit out....
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you guys can kill me to confirm my list if you want.
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yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker
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Just to tell you all, there would be only one reason I would give out the list I did and that would be to save Opz from citi.zen. That's about it. What good is it for mafia if I played the move I just did? It would have been better if I didn't say anything cause I could just make up any list I want to incriminate anyone else.
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only one reason if I was mafia*
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On August 31 2010 12:51 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 12:41 chaoser wrote: Just to tell you all, there would be only one reason I would give out the list I did and that would be to save Opz from citi.zen. That's about it. What good is it for mafia if I played the move I just did? It would have been better if I didn't say anything cause I could just make up any list I want to incriminate anyone else. It would be plenty good if you were mafia with Opz and Fishball. It's either that, or believing Opz simply lied for the sake of it, as town. Are there other possibilities? Other solutions than to lynch Opz or myself?
yeah, let me throw myself in which the rest of them. like i said worst comes to worst, ltnch me
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On August 31 2010 12:55 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 12:39 chaoser wrote: yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker (this also replies your other post) I don't really think you are traitor, however, this is actually good for the mafia as it meddles up who is wrong and who is right, causing confusion for the town The best way to figure this out is to confirm Chaoser. Not by lynching him, that would be bad, but lynching SR. SR flips traitor, chaoser is confirmed, and then we have a nice tight town circle of 5 people, maybe more
I've been pushing for an SR lynch since forever -_-. He claimed traitor got taken, he should have been first to die to confirm that indeed traitor did get taken
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##VOTE: Southrawrea
I've been pushing this for a while now...
If he's not traitor, then top 3 are in trouble. Though i really can't see how mafia can coordinate to have someone in the top three pick traitor and then they can grab the role that wasn't pick (CV, Santa, PoD)
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On September 01 2010 15:05 bumatlarge wrote: I still think opz picked traitor, and south is mafia screwin us up
opz is on my list. Thus he is either traitor that hasn't been recruited yet or he's not mafia.
I'm going to say again, there's no reason for me to even come out with my list if I was mafia. I entangle myself with so many people (3 I think?) that if i flip red, it's gg for all of mafia. There's really no reason for mafia to do that because 1) If I was mafia, I could have just let the citi.zen/opz thing play out which would take a day or two. That would have been a 1 for 1 trade, maybe more. I won't come out, tie myself to a good three people to "save" them, we'd all go down. Mafia never has to give extra info ever, and shouldn't unless it in some way helps save a member for a few days while not tying themselves 100% to that person.
You guys can lynch me if you want to confirm my list but logically I'm playing very pro town by putting my list out. I've pushed for SR the whole time which is a pro-town move since he made a statement and then he wasn't punished for it once it started going south (pun not intended).
Pandain...I don't even know what you're doing anymore. Your play style is 100% different this game from the last few I played with you. By pretending to be multiple roles and generally spamming/causing chaos in the thread...I dunno man. SFA and all but come on...pick it up or I'mm have to vote for you...
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Hmm interesting...so me rasta or LSB is a traitor...
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On September 01 2010 21:04 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 15:21 chaoser wrote: Hmm interesting...so me rasta or LSB is a traitor... Incorrect. Hesmyr said he picked CV but it was taken. Rastaban could be red, but not traitor.
Ok thanks, so it's down to me and LSB. I think LSB is the better choice for obvious reasons
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On September 01 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:Posting this before I get too busy during the day. So SR flipped Vanilla Townie. We have to assume he is telling the truth, or else he would be banned in future games anyways. That leaves LSB and Chaoser, one of them as the Traitor. We tried CVing LSB the other Night, but Rastaban was role blocked. Chaoser himself should be Bad Santa, and provided a list of "innocents". The main question would be who to lynch next. LSB would be the obvious choice for most of us, due to the fact he survived. Yes, framing by the Mafia could be a possibility, but that isn't important right now. I'm thinking if we choose Chaoser, the benefits would be greater. If we lynch Chaoser, and he flips Traitor, then of course we would know the list is fake and the Traitor issue would be solved. If he flips Mafia, the list would still be fake and LSB is most likely the Traitor. If he flipped Pro-Town Bad Santa, then the list is basically confirmed; Town would have a go-to circle, and all debate about "who could be Mafia" among those players would end immediately. Some might ask, if we lynch LSB, and he flips Traitor/Mafia, wouldn't that confirm Chaoser? The answer would be no, as we still won't know for sure what role and alignment Chaoser is, and for all that matters, he could still be Traitor/Mafia (Depending on what LSB Flips). These are my thoughts in a nutshell. Again, I'll let you guys decide. Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 06:36 Fishball wrote: BB, DTA, and JeeJee are on my track list next Night. I'll let you guys decide who to track this time. Checking citizen could be a "surprisingly" good idea too. At least it gives him confirmation if he ends up without a gun. So far only Pandain has spoken out wanting me to check JeeJee, but ~OpZ~ wants him dead. If we are CVing JeeJee tonight, let me know who to check from my post above, so we don't target the same players. BrownBear has been MIA pretty much the entire game but out of the blue, he actually commented on the game itself, and not apologizing for not being here. Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:On September 01 2010 11:47 DarthThienAn wrote:On September 01 2010 06:01 citi.zen wrote: Just to close this loop then: DTA, could you confirm whether or not you got visited by the RB on night one? I would've told the town anything worth telling like that. Notice how he doesn't explicitly say no. Just saying. DTA has been drawing suspicion since early in the game, but has been "performing" a bit better the last couple days. Legitimate or an act. Who knows. Citizen isn't exactly one of my "real" investigation candidates, and should only be investigated if the Bad Santa list is fake.
While I'd rather live, I'd also rather the town win. This plan sounds legit and except for giving mafia another night to do shit in, should be followed. Lynch me today if you want, confirm my list, so on.
The obvious reason I was talking about is that 1) I have no real reason as mafia to give my list the way I did. Even if you argue that it was to bye citi.zen/opz another day of life, that's basically 2 mafia dead for 1 day of life. LSB was suppose to die last night but CV got role blocked, that's enough proof for me. LSB is either dead last night, or lynched today. If LSB was town, mafia would have just let rasta CV him, then I would be thought of as "traitor" and then you'd all go after me. A townie dies and the next day we're back at step 1, trying to find out who traitor is.
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