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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 23 2010 11:50 GMT
#376
I picked 10 honest to god O.o. Guess I gotta pick CV and get lynched tho.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 23 2010 12:45 GMT
#379
Lol. I'm last now. Guess I'm not dead guys.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 24 2010 00:56 GMT
#429
Aghhh I have to change my role AGAIN!
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 14:58 GMT
#519
Well shit. I would like to announce that at least 2 people did not follow along with the plan made for role picking.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 15:23 GMT
#522
One is me :D. I'm quite obviously not going to announce the role. Basically someone picked a role that they were not supposed to pick which I had picked as well. Not a huge deal but possible mafia candidate. So 5 possible people who stole my role D:.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 15:35 GMT
#525
EBWOP
I'd assume that it's Hesmyrr because he would probably believe that his 33% chance of getting a role that's probably already taken is useless.
On August 25 2010 09:25 Hesmyrr wrote:
Right, I picked one of the anti-town roles using RNG generator. Since we are prioritizing copycat solely due to CV snipe possibility, and thus we need to know who the copycat is, how about giving it to completely arbitrary # that is between 5~9? This is my idea of how to make it completely fair.

Look at the first post of five users in this thread right after this post: add the individual numbers of the post time. So referring to citi.zen post above mine, since it is posted 08:29 it should be 8+2+9=19. So after adding the numbers, if the last digits of the number is 1-2, then copycat goes to #5, if 3-4 #6, if 5-6 #7, 7-8 #8, 9-0 #9.

ex) MY POST
citi.zen (11:39) 1+1+3+9=14
citi.zen -IGNORED SINCE NOT FIRST POST-
Bill Murray (12:57) 1+2+5+7=15
Hesmyrr (12:58) 1+2+5+8=16
Radfield (13:01) 1+3+0+1=5
Hesmyrr -IGNORED SINCE NOT FIRST POST-
bumatlarge (15:43) 1+5+4+3=13

14+15+16+5+13 = 63, 3 is the last digit so #6 chooses a copycat.

or of course we can just give copycat to #5 like citi.zen suggests. Are we taking measures to check if #5 will really take copycat like what I am doing in #4 spot?


He also said this. I'm going to go out on a limb here and because he said his role is anti-town. Do you mind us lynching you Hesmyrr? I have a very good reason to believe that lynching you is a good idea if you indeed were the one who stole my role as my role was anti-town as well. The first 3 would have no reason to change roles as it's beneficial for both town and mafia to take those roles first. #5 would also most likely want JOAT or a defensive role as well. Thus my suspicion falls on Hesmyrr. I would like to know of your role.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 16:06 GMT
#528
Okay you guys want the role? I haven't thought this over yet so it might be bad.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 16:12 GMT
#531
Okay, I've thought it over once and I'm pretty pro-town move on my part even if it endangers myself. I chose traitor and was unable to attain the role. I believe the person who took the role is Hesmyrr unless someone else chose the roles on a whim. Traitor= the one role that doesn't benefit town at all and mafioso would not take.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 16:24 GMT
#536
That actually works quite well IMO. CV lives for today. No need to lynch him yet so he can shoot me. We lynch Hesmyrr today. Well I guess if my guess ends up being true there really is no reason to shoot me. It would be a safer bet than just random shooting someone.
@Citi.zen You have no idea how mad I was D:. I thought I'd be sure to get Traitor and then this morning I woke up to find that Ace sent me another PM (as opposed to the one before the draft order) saying I was a vanilla townie. ><
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 16:41 GMT
#538
Just know that if I end up being wrong about Hesmyrr and when I die you find I'm vanilla townie, there is still a traitor in the top 5. Also FML if Ace screwed up the draft order again.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 16:45 GMT
#539
Actually if you look closely at his post:
On August 25 2010 09:25 Hesmyrr wrote:
Right, I picked one of the anti-town roles using RNG generator.


This could be a soft claim from him to the mafia as traitor. None of the actual townies would find this suspicious at all as we were trying to take roles away from the mafia anyways but the mafia would look at that and think, maybe he's softclaiming to us? They'd quite easily put any of their power roles on him to try and convert him if it's true. (They'd not bother using a KP on him obviously).
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 16:51 GMT
#543
On August 26 2010 01:46 zeks wrote:
Picking traitor was already an extremely anti town move on sr's part. But since he didn't get it we can assume he's town. However I think his intentions were not pro town from the start by attempting to pick traitor; its just the cirumstances right now that make him pro town.

As for hesmyrr being traitor ill wait for his posts before making a decision



I picked it on a whim. I wanted to make the game a bit more epic. I was actually gonna pick CV when I saw the draft order with me on top but the changes had me thinking a bit more. Also the bolded part is the reason why I'm screwed if Ace made a mistake that he wants to change to the roles given out or the draft order again. It's probably not going to happen though.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 17:54 GMT
#558
On August 26 2010 02:46 Pandain wrote:
Um guys seriously?
SERIOUSLY? What the fadoodle. Isn't it obvious?
SR is lying. He's either serial killer or scum(most likely serial killer, his actions seem to be more acting on his own).
All he's doing is spreading doubt on the above.

#Vote SouthRawrer

main things to keep in mind for now:
1. Why didn't he follow the plan
2. Why the hell did he pick traitor. He says "To make the game more epic."
Seriously? Why has no one been hounding on him. He knew of the plan, and knew we were going to run with it(he even was going to pick CV originally). Then what does he do? Disregards it.
3. Why would someone else pick traitor? I mean, seriously. That's the dumbest move imaginable.

I'll be compiling a list of his posts.


Regardless of my former intentions, this would be a horrible move on my part as if I'm wrong about my 1 in 5 educated guess that I made, I'm going to get lynched. Get a brain.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 18:39 GMT
#568
Pandain first off: Town plan was ruined regardless of me picking Traitor anyways as someone else did.
Second, vengeful player is a pro-town role. It's not a large leap of trust at all to have them not kill someone if they did end up getting lynched. Would we also not want mafia to avoid having this role? Say there is a confirmed townie under constant protection, they're not safe from a MAFIA vengeful player killing them during his own lynch. I wasn't saying it was a high priority role but it certainly is helpful for town to have it. Serial Killer? Really? Why would I as an SK promote my own lynch if I'm wrong? SK isn't able to pick traitor either so how on earth would I know that a traitor exists within the top 5. Stop spouting nonsense.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 18:48 GMT
#571
On August 26 2010 03:39 zeks wrote:
The reason I won't be voting SR is that I just think it would be a huge gambit on his part (if he's scum) just to try to frame a traitor on the top 5 - and in a 1 for 1 trade situation thats just totally irrational. Trading one scum for someone in the top 5 (where many of them are gonna die anyway) is just stupid. I think he knows a bit better than that.

Hesmyrr: His counter claim is valid. The only thing I'm worried about is that he did counter claim CV - which is the safest counter claim as it should be a given at this point that CV was drafted #1 by rastaban. But after everything happened we cannot guarantee that both PoD and Bad Santa have been taken. So if in the case Hesmyrr is scum then the CV claim would make sense from him. Nevertheless he may be honest and did RNG CV and is just a townie.

I'm not sold on Hesmyrr yet either way, but we really need to hear from chaoser/LSB. I do suspect both of them to a certain extent (chaoser a bit more because I understand a little about how he plays). So right now for me its between 2,3,4.


It's not a gambit at all. If I were scum I would not choose traitor and if I were SK I cannot choose traitor due to the game's rules. If I were not traitor, it'd be an absolutely insane idea to guess that a traitor was in the top 5 unless I was denied the role. In the case that I am wrong about Hesmyrr, I am getting lynched as town has to make sure I was telling the truth.

Possibilities:
1) Hesmyrr:traitor Rawrea:green -> We benefit
2) Hesmyrr:green Rawrea:red -> mafia loses a member and nets a green kill
3) Hesmyrr:green Rawrea:green -> we know that there is still a traitor in the top 5 (now 4) or I'm just trolling and we lose 2 greens
4) Hesmyrr:green Rawrea: SK -> SK gets lynched and loses after making a horrible play, town loses a green and traitor can be ANYWHERE
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 18:48 GMT
#572
On August 26 2010 03:42 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2010 03:39 SouthRawrea wrote:
Pandain first off: Town plan was ruined regardless of me picking Traitor anyways as someone else did.
Second, vengeful player is a pro-town role. It's not a large leap of trust at all to have them not kill someone if they did end up getting lynched. Would we also not want mafia to avoid having this role? Say there is a confirmed townie under constant protection, they're not safe from a MAFIA vengeful player killing them during his own lynch. I wasn't saying it was a high priority role but it certainly is helpful for town to have it. Serial Killer? Really? Why would I as an SK promote my own lynch if I'm wrong? SK isn't able to pick traitor either so how on earth would I know that a traitor exists within the top 5. Stop spouting nonsense.


It was ok(not good, but allowable) for the #15(Divinek) to change his thing.

You are #6. The plan was not ruined. Not only that, you picked traitor.

As for vengeful player, as you said in a previous post anything that adds kp to mafia is bad. Vengeful player in the hands of a mafia, adds kp. Unless you now disagree with yourself.


IF WE TAKE IT, IT'S TOWN KP NOT MAFIA KP.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 19:04 GMT
#574
We were discussing.. not arguing (I have no idea why you would say Radfield is my opponent) what roles we should take as town, not the functionality of said role if mafia had it. More than half the roles in the game are subject to this question:
On August 26 2010 03:50 Pandain wrote:
And how would you know town would take it?


This was all while we were discussing what the draft order and plan should be. You're not getting anywhere with your arguments.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 19:14 GMT
#576
No.. that's not alot of people dead because if I'm wrong the first time.. you LYNCH me and go on depending on what I ended up flipping as.
##Votes Hesmyrr
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 19:43 GMT
#596
What's all this about a witch hunt? I said lynch me if I'm wrong. No witch hunt even if I do flip green. There's no immediate danger. You can just keep it mind as you continue along in the game. If you end up with only 1 of the suspects left and no one else has turned up as traitor.. then you've got yourself a likely mafia that late in the game. You can also be on the lookout for possible conversions. If we're unbelievably lucky we may even catch a mafia trying to convert. I'm doing this to benefit town, not to have you guys engage in a mindless killing spree.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 25 2010 19:48 GMT
#599
On August 26 2010 04:45 bumatlarge wrote:
And why would hesmyr being town confirm rastaban as town? Wouldnt that jst be confirming him as comp vig? Maybe im missing a step, I follow the zeks confriming though. Anyway, lynch hesmyrr kill south if not a traitor sounds reasonable.

##unvote divinek
##vote Hesmyrr


You are correct! It's kinda easy to get stuck in that mindset though due to experience in other games.
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