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On August 29 2010 03:32 citi.zen wrote:Indeed, thanks Ace. So we had 4 mafia, one died but there is a traitor somewhere. + Show Spoiler + I don't think the game would have one 3 mafia, at the end of last PYP Ace said he would give the mafia another KP in the future, but instead put in more mafia-friendly roles. I don't see him taking their number down to 3.
how did you draw the conclusion that there is a traitor somewhere?
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On August 29 2010 05:55 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 05:39 zeks wrote:
Fine. I'm role cop. I checked Fishball - I don't want to reveal what he is as now we're practically in a mass roleclaim mode and it would not benefit the town to know what he is: however I will tell you that he did not follow the town's plan either.
I have no idea how bumatlarge got only 4 people from his watch, because I'm not the SK and I lived - to my surprise so someone must've protected me.
I know I'm going to die today as now I fit the perfect profiling of an SK - but please evaluate why LSB was so sure I was role cop - not to mention now only 2 suspects are remaining for the traitor and he is one of them. Radfields push for my lynch and wanting to know who I rolecheck I also find a little bit suspicious.
I apologize for my poor play and allowing scum to corner me this easily. If I go down today I blame no one but myself.
It's possible I may blame myself a bit if you don't mind  "I have no idea how bumatlarge got only 4 people from his watch, because I'm not the SK and I lived - to my surprise so someone must've protected me." Don't worry, Ace probably messed it up  For what it's worth, I still think you're the traitor, but the SK would be oh so nice. Maybe I'm seeing things through rose-colored glasses here. Can anyone lay out an argument how zeks is not an anti-town player?
there's only 3 mafia in the game? that's pretty much it
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as suspected
i think zeks is full of it then (he acted like he did not know whether he was saved and only derived it through means of elimination, ie im not sk, i got hit, im not a defensive role, therefore i mustve been saved .. whereas theres no need to go thru this process if u have a shiny yellow pm in ur box saying u were saved last night by a medic)
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##vote zeks
im placing my bets on sk rolecop.
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btw he's at L-5 now, i think. rad, lsb, myself and bum voted for him
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i think it would be useful to know if fishball is any of: godfather, roleblocker, vengeful (any others?)
otherwise leave him be
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On August 29 2010 06:45 SouthRawrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 06:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:20 LSB wrote:On August 29 2010 06:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned. We know he's rolecop, I was the one to prove it. The problem is if he is town aligned. Zeks, if you are town aligned, please do not disclose Fishball's Role. Fishball could be thinking of a strategy, and it is always bad for Mafia to know more blue roles than necessary. How did you prove it? You picked before him. This hinges on Subversion of picking RoleCop, not PoD/BadSanta/CompVig...If one of those roles picked traitor, then he he could of picked any of those, albeit be wrong. Nevermind. I understand. You would of been on the same team, how would you two of picked the same roles....Shit...I need to think about this a little more. I still feel Zeks is something like SK. Please elaborate. I was reading this and my thought pattern was all jumbled from my earlier post. I would like to know how he's proven. Also. 4 mafia visited Zeks either that or 4 other roles. I find it hard to believe that 4 different investigative roles visited Zeks without a single mafia doing so. If it was only mafia visiting and what he's saying about being saved is true, there would be 5 visitors. So if 4 others really did visit him, 1 doctor, 2 of this (tracker, alignment cop, bullet bill), SK and 1 watcher(doesn't count in the original 4) as I find it hard to believe even JOAT would visit him. Poor play/luck on the part of power roles if this is true. Either that or Compulsive Vig shot him but then rastaban would claim that so Zek's claim would be true correct? Thus CV did not shoot. He couldn't anyways. It was night 1. We can then conclude that Zeks was either converted or never visited by mafia.
this post makes no sense
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On August 29 2010 07:11 SouthRawrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 07:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 29 2010 06:45 SouthRawrea wrote:On August 29 2010 06:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:20 LSB wrote:On August 29 2010 06:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned. We know he's rolecop, I was the one to prove it. The problem is if he is town aligned. Zeks, if you are town aligned, please do not disclose Fishball's Role. Fishball could be thinking of a strategy, and it is always bad for Mafia to know more blue roles than necessary. How did you prove it? You picked before him. This hinges on Subversion of picking RoleCop, not PoD/BadSanta/CompVig...If one of those roles picked traitor, then he he could of picked any of those, albeit be wrong. Nevermind. I understand. You would of been on the same team, how would you two of picked the same roles....Shit...I need to think about this a little more. I still feel Zeks is something like SK. Please elaborate. I was reading this and my thought pattern was all jumbled from my earlier post. I would like to know how he's proven. Also. 4 mafia visited Zeks either that or 4 other roles. I find it hard to believe that 4 different investigative roles visited Zeks without a single mafia doing so. If it was only mafia visiting and what he's saying about being saved is true, there would be 5 visitors. So if 4 others really did visit him, 1 doctor, 2 of this (tracker, alignment cop, bullet bill), SK and 1 watcher(doesn't count in the original 4) as I find it hard to believe even JOAT would visit him. Poor play/luck on the part of power roles if this is true. Either that or Compulsive Vig shot him but then rastaban would claim that so Zek's claim would be true correct? Thus CV did not shoot. He couldn't anyways. It was night 1. We can then conclude that Zeks was either converted or never visited by mafia. this post makes no sense 4 people visited Zeks. Any mafia actions show as all mafia visiting to the watcher. (Including ones that die by day) Thus if mafia visited Zeks, then no townies other than the watcher visited Zeks correct? Simple. However, Zeks said he was shot and protected. He couldn't have been shot by Vig as they can't shoot. He claims he was protected by the doctor. If he was protected by the doctor and shot by the mafia, the watcher would've seen 5 people visiting Zeks which is NOT the case. Thus it was either a combination of SK and town roles that visited Zeks or only mafia. The fact that Zeks is still alive means that he was either CONVERTED by mafia or was never visited by them. That better?
no not really
you believe some of zeks' claims and not others
what's up with that?
objectively speaking, if
-bum is telling the truth
-nobody else got shot
we have
1) sk shot by mafia
2) townie shot by sk, visited by some other roles
3) traitor shot by mafia
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so yeah i'm not even sure we are arguing at all
you just said my analysis except you concluded with "he's either traitor or not shot by mafia at all" when the real conclusion should have been "he's either traitor or sk shot by mafia or traitor converted by mafia"
so yeah
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ebwop: conclusion should have been "he's either traitor or sk shot by mafia"
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right, well, let's get on with it, he's still at L-5
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we are assuming the following
-there's 4 mafia
-bum did not lie
-nobody else got hit
therefore, if zeks flips townie rolecop, we have to question these assumptions and draw any of the following conclusions
-there's 3 mafia (2 alive)
-some townie did not claim that they took a hit
-bum is a liar
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he's at L-2, chop chop
we still need to talk about CV hit tonight -- whats the plan
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btw we're at L-1 now. just so everybody's informed.
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On August 29 2010 12:30 Ace wrote:
Day 2 Votes
Southrawrea(1)
Pandain
zeks(7)
LSB
bumatlarge
Radfield
JeeJee
DarthThienAn
chaoser
citizen
With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch. Day 2 ends at 9PM ET/10 KST Sunday August 29th/August30th KST
south's post at August 29 2010 07:29
we're at L-1
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god damn shut up
talk talk talk without saying a thing
my head hurts
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On August 29 2010 14:52 Pandain wrote:No but serious the post with the jesus thing was serious. I'm martyr, and those are valid plans. And why shouldn't we protect fishball, opz? I mean, as I've said its very possible he missed the change deadline. What I would like is for someone to see whether he posted on another forum/thread after the draft list changed. That would be helpfull.
no it wouldn't
shut up you're a waste of post space
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On August 29 2010 21:26 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Damn it. The ALL function is gone. I remember that someone(jeejee maybe?) posted a way to use add-ons or something to get a hack version of the all function. This was posted somewhere else in the Mafia forums. Anyone remember where it is or what it is?
autopager addon for ff
lemme know if you need help setting it up
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we could use an extension because this whole time was wasted arguing about a guy who is already dead. there's been no scumhunting for the past like 5+ pages
i think we definitely need an extension
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