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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 02:27 GMT
#1374
Alright I decided to turn over a new leaf and decided that no matter how humorous me claiming pardoner TWICE may be, If I want to gain credibility it's not going to happen.

sorry south, your going to die.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 02:43 GMT
#1379
On September 01 2010 11:41 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 09:46 Pandain wrote:
Actually, you know what I decided?

I am the pardoner, but then I went back on my decision to pardon Zeks(pmed ace.)
Amazed no one called me out on saying i'll martyr radfield, but then he dies.

##Pardon SouthRawrea

This is a confirmed lie then.

Hi Pandain!


Yup n.n. But a harmless lie(no malicious outcome... aka I would be found out in 3 hours).

So if i was mafia it would have no p ositive outcome. Therefore, you know it was a joke. Moving on, I'll lay out the warground once we see how south flips.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 02:52 GMT
#1382
On September 01 2010 11:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 02:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Anyone care to tell us what JeeJee was doing at DTA's house?

I want to know too =o.
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 04:54 chaoser wrote:
##VOTE: Southrawrea

I've been pushing this for a while now...

If he's not traitor, then top 3 are in trouble. Though i really can't see how mafia can coordinate to have someone in the top three pick traitor and then they can grab the role that wasn't pick (CV, Santa, PoD)

Mafia don't necessarily need to have taken those roles farther down the line. A traitor is a traitor...

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 05:57 Pandain wrote:
Citizen, since I (believe I) know your confirmed, I was wondering what you thought about what we should do tonight. I was thinking that unless South is green, in which case we lynch LSB, we can focus on the roleblocker.

I hope you've understood where I'm coming from on JeeJee. So our main possibilities are brown bear and darth. I would suggest cv hitting darth for three reasons:
1. I get more scum vibes from darth(see: "I know theres 4 mafia so..."
2. Me and brown bear are BFF's
3.This may be outside the game, but it seems to me the possible mafia canidates aren't that great, and I would think there would be at least one vet to lead them. Darth: already known for being pretty good at scum. I think Darth is more a sure thing to be mafia rather than BB.

Of course, there's the chance both of them are mafia, can't discount that.

1. meh. if Radfield had said it first, would you have been down his throat?
2. Great reason.
3. Another great reason... maybe you didn't witness last game, but I'm pretty sure BB plays as well or better than me as mafia. Also, I'd be ashamed of myself if I was mafia this game. If I'm such a "pro" at the game, then why would I be making all of these "mistakes" and allow myself to stay under suspicion?

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 06:01 citi.zen wrote:
Just to close this loop then: DTA, could you confirm whether or not you got visited by the RB on night one?

I would've told the town anything worth telling like that.
Assuming citi.zen isn't lying, JeeJee is not RB


In the end, it doesn't really matter who we lynch. At the ends, its just a matter of personal preference/belief.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 03:25 GMT
#1385
On September 01 2010 12:11 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 11:43 Pandain wrote:
On September 01 2010 11:41 citi.zen wrote:
On September 01 2010 09:46 Pandain wrote:
Actually, you know what I decided?

I am the pardoner, but then I went back on my decision to pardon Zeks(pmed ace.)
Amazed no one called me out on saying i'll martyr radfield, but then he dies.

##Pardon SouthRawrea

This is a confirmed lie then.

Hi Pandain!


Yup n.n. But a harmless lie(no malicious outcome... aka I would be found out in 3 hours).

So if i was mafia it would have no p ositive outcome. Therefore, you know it was a joke. Moving on, I'll lay out the warground once we see how south flips.

Why lie gratuitously as a townie?


Forgive me then, I promise not to joke around. Mafia is serious business.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 10:40 GMT
#1398
On September 01 2010 19:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
If JeeJee lives, I'm voting him for death tomorrow.

I'm not traitor. South was clearly telling the truth....Rastaban had to be telling the truth, cuz hes picked CV.

Hi LSB?

Who wanted South over LSB? Citizen. Fuck, maybe Chaoser lied, who the fuck knows.


To be told, I did as well(never really believe south. shows just how great a townie I am :/).
kill lsb today, rasta
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 18:58 GMT
#1417
No don't check LSB, keep checking JeeJee. As I said, we need to know whether he's scum or town. Either way, he will be valiuable to that side.

JeeJee, if your Joat claim now, so you can protect yourself tonight. In addition, I won't have to martyr you. Also, who did you visit last night. I have a sneaking suspicion it might be JeeJee, but since you are so reluctant to talk I am unsure.

So let's take care of this traitor situation. Now as a SFA member I can't lynch Chaoser, but I can advocate for it, and definitely support CVing him(as he is).

Because sadly, we cannot tell who Chaoser is. But tommorow we will have a surefire lynch.
Tommorow, we lynch LSB.

JeeJee, if your alignment cop I want you to investigate one of the confirmed townies (opz or sinquity.) That will help you define your sanity. If not alignment cop and are doctor, protect one of Citizen, fishball, or watcher. If Joat, talk to someone and reveal your results. Talk to me.......! n.n


Fishball check JeeJee,
However, in the case that brownbear is roleblocker just to be sure we should track Brownbear. Meanwhile, the watcher watches JeeJee to make sure Fishball will check. Therefore, if either Brownbear or Fishball are roleblocker they will either be forced to not use there power or will be caught.

If JeeJee is alignment cop(which I think he is unless he is scum), than he will have known his sanity by then.

Really though, we can either track Brownbear or Darthien. Which do you guys want?

Everyone agree, or disagree? Please discuss.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 19:06 GMT
#1420
On September 02 2010 04:03 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 03:58 Pandain wrote:
No don't check LSB, keep checking JeeJee. As I said, we need to know whether he's scum or town. Either way, he will be valiuable to that side.

JeeJee, if your Joat claim now, so you can protect yourself tonight. In addition, I won't have to martyr you. Also, who did you visit last night. I have a sneaking suspicion it might be JeeJee, but since you are so reluctant to talk I am unsure.

So let's take care of this traitor situation. Now as a SFA member I can't lynch Chaoser, but I can advocate for it, and definitely support CVing him(as he is).

Because sadly, we cannot tell who Chaoser is. But tommorow we will have a surefire lynch.
Tommorow, we lynch LSB.

JeeJee, if your alignment cop I want you to investigate one of the confirmed townies (opz or sinquity.) That will help you define your sanity. If not alignment cop and are doctor, protect one of Citizen, fishball, or watcher. If Joat, talk to someone and reveal your results. Talk to me.......! n.n


Fishball check JeeJee,
However, in the case that brownbear is roleblocker just to be sure we should track Brownbear. Meanwhile, the watcher watches JeeJee to make sure Fishball will check. Therefore, if either Brownbear or Fishball are roleblocker they will either be forced to not use there power or will be caught.

If JeeJee is alignment cop(which I think he is unless he is scum), than he will have known his sanity by then.

Really though, we can either track Brownbear or Darthien. Which do you guys want?

Everyone agree, or disagree? Please discuss.


Um, how can I be the Role Blocker when Zeks already checked me?
Plus I visited ~Opz~ and Sin. If they got role blocked they would have been notified.


Oh wow I'm an idiot. That's great news! What should the watcher do then.... watch rastaban. You can help see if he still got roleblocked(thus helping with dealing the possibility that he's mafia cv.)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 20:33 GMT
#1425
On September 02 2010 05:25 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:
So SR flipped Vanilla Townie. We have to assume he is telling the truth, or else he would be banned in future games anyways. That leaves LSB and Chaoser, one of them as the Traitor.

We tried CVing LSB the other Night, but Rastaban was role blocked. Chaoser himself should be Bad Santa, and provided a list of "innocents". The main question would be who to lynch next. LSB would be the obvious choice for most of us, due to the fact he survived. Yes, framing by the Mafia could be a possibility, but that isn't important right now. I'm thinking if we choose Chaoser, the benefits would be greater. If we lynch Chaoser, and he flips Traitor, then of course we would know the list is fake and the Traitor issue would be solved. If he flips Mafia, the list would still be fake and LSB is most likely the Traitor. If he flipped Pro-Town Bad Santa, then the list is basically confirmed; Town would have a go-to circle, and all debate about "who could be Mafia" among those players would end immediately.

Some might ask, if we lynch LSB, and he flips Traitor/Mafia, wouldn't that confirm Chaoser? The answer would be no, as we still won't know for sure what role and alignment Chaoser is, and for all that matters, he could still be Traitor/Mafia (Depending on what LSB Flips).

These are my thoughts in a nutshell. Again, I'll let you guys decide.


This is interesting...

What would it mean if LSB was traitor? Either chaoser is legit (and confirms his list), or he's mafia (invalidates his list).
What would it mean if chaoser was traitor? LSB is legit/mafia, and chaoser's list is bull.

We want as information as possible, as soon as possible... I've considered LSB as the more likely candidate for traitor for most of the game, but the potential of confirming 4 townies (or is it 3?) far outweighs offing a traitor. We're at 13 players right now. 4 confirmed players is like a third of the town, plus you've got claimed pro-town roles. From there, it should be easy.


Agreed almost entirely. No matter how much I believe Chaoser(and really the only mafia possibility is that he's trying to help himself/citizen gain some cred), shooting Chaoser will just give us far more information(confirmed townies...extra info on fishball(if chaoser is not mafia sinquity and opz are confirmed.).
I don't see why either of them would pick traitor, but if we're going to pick one we should base it off of information gathered.

Rastaban shoot Chaoser.

In addition, I want to hear people's feedbacks on a new ideaof mine. JeeJee claims. Since I'm martyring JeeJee the only possibility that JeeJee would die is therefore if mafia roleblocks me. But then they will have to let Chaoser shoot, and we will have a guaranteed mafia traitor by the end of the day, as well as confirmed townies.

Because truly, the mafia is going to roleblock Rastaban(to delay us finding traitor/confirming townies)

But if JeeJee claims, not only can he give us vital information(aka who he visited, checks(since he's almost certainly Joat or Alignment cop.) In addition, he can even protect him self if he's joat and then I can martyr Rastaban.

Thoughts?
Also:
Ace: If Rastaban dies does he still get to shoot?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 21:36 GMT
#1427
Just so everyone knows, heres the plan.
Tracker tracks Brownbear
Fishball checks JeeJee
Watcher watches Rastaban
Rastaban kills chaoser


JeeJee: If...
Alignment cop: Check Sinquity
Joat: CLAIM!

Everyone follow this.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 22:16 GMT
#1431
On September 02 2010 07:04 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 06:40 Fishball wrote:
On September 02 2010 06:04 citi.zen wrote:
You stated you think the RB will not block us if we hit someone other than LSB.


No, I did not say that, nor imply that. That is what YOU think what I said. Simple question, blown out of proportion. Big surprise.

On September 02 2010 06:04 citi.zen wrote:
I would restate that more broadly as follows: we cannot use the CV hit tonight to kill a red, the mafia will not allow it!

Do you still think we should switch our CV target in the hope the hit will go through?


I think I know what you're trying to say now.

You're basically implying Rastaban will be blocked for sure. That I don't know; I'm an equally good target to be blocked, even yourself as the Tracker to a lesser extent. Hell, we still don't know if we have a JOAT or not. It is also not guaranteed that we WILL hit a red. At the end, they will have to pick.

No, I am not saying "he will get role blocked for sure". I am saying that if the CV tells everyone he is targeting mafia, he will be roleblocked. If he announces he will hit a townie, he might not be blocked, since mafia likes dead townies.

You haven't answered my question: do you still favor switching the CV's target?

Pandain, do you follow any of this?


It doesn't matter whether we switch the CV's target. Unless we decide to (stupidly) aim it on a person like Sinquity they are going to block Rastaban whether we target Chaoser, LSB, or possibly even go after another person to find roleblocker(like DTA, as was originally planned.)

They are going to block Rastaban whether or not Rastaban hits the traitor is irrelevant. The point is then town is going to know WHO the traitor really is. I mean, its obviously great if we hit the mafia, but truly they are going to block it either way.

So if in the situation we have here, where there is a chance either of them could be mafia (even though it seems to me LSB is the more likely), we should incorporate outside details such as who we will get more info from.
Let's see the results:
LSB: Find out if Chaoser's traitor(but not neccesarily mafia).
Chaoser: Find out truth of whether there are 4 confirmed townies(HUGE), will find out whether LSB is traitor, and the 4 confirmed townies go a long way in future analysis of mafia roleblocker/mafia in general.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 22:55 GMT
#1435
On September 02 2010 07:52 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 06:36 Pandain wrote:
Just so everyone knows, heres the plan.
Tracker tracks Brownbear
Fishball checks JeeJee
Watcher watches Rastaban
Rastaban kills chaoser


JeeJee: If...
Alignment cop: Check Sinquity
Joat: CLAIM!

Everyone follow this.


I like it, but why are we tracking me? Just to confirm Opz?


Don't see how opz has anything to do with it. We're tracking you because you claimed vanilla, so if you do get found visiting someone you can't fadoodle your way out of it by saying "Onoes I'm the alignment cop so you can't lynch me!"

Also interested to hear your opinion in general. Haven't had any strong posts by you.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:04 GMT
#1439
On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.



Opz I <3 you.

New change: Tracker tracks Darth.

We lynch Brownbear tommorow.

Amazing catch opz
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:19 GMT
#1444
On September 02 2010 08:15 Fishball wrote:
Fuck, there are more typos.

Citizen's logic is making me cringe.
Just to add a bit more content, lets assume we do have an original target "A".
If town can find a better target "B", then sure " I will favor switching the CV's target".


I'm pretty sure anyone would do that. I think he's asking you whether we should CV someone besides LSB. But I think I've proven that pretty sufficiently. More importantly, what do you think on BrownBear's slip up.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:19 GMT
#1445
EBWOP:
Also, tracker is to track DTA now. Want to make sure he sees this.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:40 GMT
#1448
On September 02 2010 08:38 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 08:04 Pandain wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.



Opz I <3 you.

New change: Tracker tracks Darth.

We lynch Brownbear tommorow.

Amazing catch opz


this is big. bb is mafia, pretty much 100%


JeeJee! You're here. I need to ask you a couple of things:
1. What are you. I'm martyring you, but need to know if your joat(so then I can martyr someone else while you protect yourself)
2.Who did you visit last night?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:47 GMT
#1452
On September 02 2010 08:43 JeeJee wrote:
1. there's no need to make it obvious to mafia who not to hit. if you wish to martyr me, go ahead, but don't choose so 100%. likewise if i'm joat, i'm not going to say i'm protting myself 100%.
2. relevance?


1.We're at a point in this game where we SHOULD plan things out so that we can be sure of winning 100%.
2. Need it for info, I already know you HAVE to have visited someone else(since only day vigi can visit once and only once.)


On September 02 2010 08:41 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 08:04 Pandain wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.



Opz I <3 you.

New change: Tracker tracks Darth.

We lynch Brownbear tommorow.

Amazing catch opz


OH SURE YOU GO WITH THAT but you dont even acknowledge the analysis i did on how fucking useless and not helping town this scum bastard has been all game. Yes we should lynch him


I wouldn't want to criticize a masterpiece in progress
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:52 GMT
#1455
On September 02 2010 08:50 JeeJee wrote:
nobody has to visit anyone aside from cv.

likewise, there's never a need to say to mafia: don't hit these targets.
consider me as a martyr option. if i'm joat, i'll consider myself and others as prot options. nothing should be 100% because mafia can just take a green for sure. a joat/doc/martyr that never prots anybody are basically greens, so there's no upside to telling prots to mafia.


Alright, we'll wait to see Fishball's results. However Opz I was a bit confused by what you meant when you said "SAME WITH JEEEEEEEEEEJEEEEEEEEEE". I looked through his posts and didn't find one saying he missed rolepick.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:19 GMT
#1461
Has night ended?

If so, then funsies facts:
1. If LSB wasn't blocked by roleblocker, and he wasn't if rasta is telling the truth, and he turns out to be traitor already recruited, than we know he must've been visited by one of these people
1.Joat
2. Bullet Bill
3.Alignment cop
4.Doctor.

Just something to reflect on after we find out more info.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:46 GMT
#1468
Pandain looked at the dead body of his best friend in the whole wide world, Chaoser. They had been through so much together. They were bonded through friendship, through the wonder of the secret friendship alliance. And now LSB had ruined it all. He had kill him, lied to everyone.

And Now Pandain would get his revenge.

##vote LSB.
So long, good run.

On the plus side: Citizen is confirmed.
I want results on tracker, watcher, bullet bill, and JeeJee claim right now or your next(after brown bear of course n.n).
Also who did you visit.

And who was roleblocked.
Lets move it people.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:46 GMT
#1469
Oops, ##Vote LSB
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