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SouthRawrea
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August 05 2010 01:13 GMT
#124
/in YES
SouthRawrea
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August 05 2010 01:15 GMT
#125
Btw interesting that you'd have bus driver be town aligned.
SouthRawrea
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August 05 2010 02:19 GMT
#127
You can also have a mafia sided driver. They do the same thing.
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 01:02 GMT
#188
I don't know but where is your address? I feel like visiting :D.
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 18:10 GMT
#395
Hey youngminii mind changing your signature plz? :D
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 18:17 GMT
#397
Actually that is incorrect. I had a post at the very start.
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 18:30 GMT
#401
The way I see it, we have 2-3 ninjas most likely 3 IF flamewheel is being reasonable. These ninjas will and SHOULD check people the first night and any ninja claims should not be taken seriously at this time unless there is a good reason. Now: we could have a single ninja be our "town" ninja and he will be checked by the DT and protected by the doc. This way we add another power role to our arsenal. This leaves the other 1-2 ninja(s) to be alone for a while. After a mafia member is put up on the chopping block and is about to be killed, there is an opportunity for a ninja to join their side. Thus we get rid of the chaos that is random killing by ninjas within the first few days. The last ninja if there is one will probably end up rolling alone and trying to get the mafia or town side to reveal the name of the other ninja so they can replace them. Of course we can't always trust that would be a good idea. Now here is where this can really benefit us. If one of the ninjas finds the doctor, they should refrain from killing them so that they can threaten the doctor at first and then have them reveal the name of the other ninja so that they can replace them as the town sided ninja. Now the ninja to first want to side with the town will have to play the entire game hoping that the others don't find the doctor but they only have 3 investigations each anyhow and the town-sided ninja will be able to be safe for the first few days giving him an edge. The only way to get a claim with out being roleblocked though is to get a DT mouth. This entire scenario allows us to bring order to this crazy ninja thing and allows us to obtain a power role as an extra. Dealio for day 2?
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 18:31 GMT
#402
On August 07 2010 03:25 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 03:24 rastaban wrote:
On August 07 2010 03:17 SouthRawrea wrote:
Actually that is incorrect. I had a post at the very start.


Hey you are right but the day post wasn't even up yet so it doesn't count.


Doesn't matter, the point is if you haven't made a quality post which summarizes your opinions with evidence and is at least 3 lines long, then you haven't really been active.

And sadly South, that means you are, according to my definition, inactive.


Now what?
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 18:33 GMT
#403
Oh and if there are 4 ninjas total then :/
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 18:36 GMT
#404
Of course as soon as we get a ninja on our side then we'll know exactly how many we have in the game.
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 18:42 GMT
#406
They get two shots btw and Pyrr... nvm not gonna spoil a possible plan of his if the slip was intentional.
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 18:48 GMT
#408
And they get it back if they hit a ninja. You see after the first few days where they might use a check or two, we'll probably have a confirmed or two as well and they'll have suspects. One or two of the ninjas will probably use a KP.
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 20:05 GMT
#410
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 20:08 GMT
#411
Nvm I realize that the day 1 post is a joke.
SouthRawrea
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August 06 2010 20:34 GMT
#419
On August 07 2010 05:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
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On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.

I've noticed Divinek talking about how the Ninja would be breaking rules and ruining the game and would be removed from the game if he teamed up with town.

I've also now noticed you talking about how if I merely posted the number of ninjas in the thread correctly I should be removed from the game.

There's nothing about this in the rules description for Ninja as far as I can tell. Perhaps you two got some stern words from flamewheel in the role pm?


You mis-read my post. WHEN THE NINJA WINS HE IS REMOVED FROM THE GAME. THUS IF BUS DRIVER NINJA AND VER OR W.E WERE REALLY NINJAS YOU'D BE GONE CUZ U'D HAVE WON. lol. Please keep in mind that I didn't understand that the day 1 post was a joke at the time i wrote this.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
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August 06 2010 21:07 GMT
#422
Err it was just for the story so.. kinda like a joke. None of those people were actually in the game. I also mentioned that this was a plan for later as we have none as of now.
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 21:14 GMT
#424
Bus driver ninja is made up for sure lol.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 01:21 GMT
#473
IMO
Foolishness=Ninja
Pyrr= Veteran/Ninja
BM= Hatter/Role Blocker
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 01:29 GMT
#476
I know everything. REDACT YOUR STATEMENT.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 01:37 GMT
#481
Question: Pyrr, seeing as how everyone thinks you're a ninja, what do you ahve to gain from getting him lynched? Is this your way of saying that you are not in fact a ninja?
Also... what page are those PMs from? O.o
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 01:55 GMT
#494
On August 07 2010 10:49 Divinek wrote:
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On August 07 2010 10:39 LSB wrote:


Q4 Newbie question: If we don’t kill the inactives now, when do we kill them?



well we vote for them in hopes that they stop being inactive. They'll either get modkilled or having to start making some real contributions...i hope. We kill them asap unless we have REAL evidence on someone else

too many times we focus on 1 or 2 inactive ish people, when there's like half a dozen. I'm really bent on trying to avoid that this game

speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far


1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!!
2)Misder
3) South
4) Artanis[xp]
5)roffles
6) love1another
7) iaaan !!!


im really gonna press these names cause im gonna be gone until a few hours before deadline tomorrow so hopefully EVERYONE takes a look at these god damn people

dont let these lurkers slide by


Hey hey NO
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#512
Been trying to refine Pandain's plan or come up with a different one perhaps involving the Hatter but his seems to be the best to deal with roleblocker and framer. It seems the only way to come up with a plan on Day 1 is to make public announcements and his is the best for dealing with that because we don't out any roles or allow the use of a framer.
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#515
Also would like to mention we have multiple, stackable medics.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 02:27 GMT
#522
I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
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August 07 2010 02:29 GMT
#524
On July 29 2010 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
Boy Scout (Medic)
Each Boy Scout, being still as of yet not of legal age, can only stop one hit and as such if the number of Brigade members is greater than the number of Boy Scouts on a player then that player will die. You will know if you saved the person.


On August 07 2010 11:21 LSB wrote:
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On August 07 2010 11:18 SouthRawrea wrote:
Also would like to mention we have multiple, stackable medics.

Do we?
We have people who can be used as 'medics'
Watchers, Bus Drivers, Medics. But possibly only 1 medic


Why would flame mention this if there were only 1?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 07 2010 02:30 GMT
#525
On August 07 2010 11:29 Divinek wrote:
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On August 07 2010 11:27 SouthRawrea wrote:
I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY.


your logical reasoning is astounding

there are no words for the stuff that comes out of your mouth really


Thank you very much. I lost track of what I was saying half way through and was hoping it would make sense. I've got the idea still in my head though. I'll try and clarify in just a moment after going through the idea itself again.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 07 2010 02:31 GMT
#526
On August 07 2010 11:01 love1another wrote:

##unvote
##vote Bill Murray

This way I don't die.


Is it important that you don't die? Seems like a softclaim blue (strange play for a blue though) but more likely to be ninja/mafia.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 07 2010 02:53 GMT
#549
On August 07 2010 11:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 11:29 Divinek wrote:
On August 07 2010 11:27 SouthRawrea wrote:
I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY.


your logical reasoning is astounding

there are no words for the stuff that comes out of your mouth really

It's true. He seems to be on my side but he does not make sense to me.


Scenario 1a: Pyrr is Godfather. Pyrr lead the campaign against Bill Murray. If Bill Murray flips town sided, suspicion is placed upon Pyrr for possibly being a mafia creating chaos. He then is checked by tracker. If he does not show up at all, we have a lynch candidate as he is either GF or Ninja. If lynch does not go through, the other ninjas WILL kill him. Why would a Godfather want this 2-3 different groups after his ass on the same day?

Scenario 1b: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips red. Pyrr is not cleared, mafia is dead. Godfather would not want this either.

Scenario 1c: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips ninja. Nothing happens really.

Scenario 2: Pyrr is Ninja. Bill Murray flips town. Tracker on Pyrr. Pyrr does not show up. Pyrr claims ninja and has watcher+tracker on him. Watcher outs tracker+anyone else. We get a role blocker down and medic is now on watcher. Bus driver is on Pyrr. Watcher is on tracker. Boom.

This is for day 2. Do random checking on night 1 and lynch BM day 1. Does that work?
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 02:55 GMT
#552
Or do Pandain's plan and add this as an additional layer of protection to reduce the chances of the nosy townies (possibly more than 1.) getting in the way.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 02:58 GMT
#555
Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:04 GMT
#565
On August 07 2010 12:00 larjarse wrote:
Divinek saying I spam spam spam on pg 23:

This is my first game. You also excluded my posts that had content. So vote me if you please and calm down your e rage, bro.


I voted BM becauese I instinctively feel like he's up to no good. If he's actually good, then oh well, it was a 1/6 chance anyways and it's only the first day. Many can sit here and theroize why people posted what and everthing, but you probably aren't going to know who anyone is today.

Pyrrhuloxia United States. August 07 2010 10:12.
I think we should be suspicious of people who defend others so early..


I agree!


Divinek again targeting me on pg 25: speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far 1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!!


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On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote:
also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low
(at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get)

so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think


And the roleblocker/framer can change the entire story. Divinek seems sure that BM is going to be watched tonight and is posting his expected results to further defend BM and thus fuck over the town if he is actually scum.

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On August 07 2010 11:46 Divinek wrote:
On August 07 2010 11:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Maybe your plan isn't useless in the previous mentioned situations; it would be more accurate to say that it doesn't get any better by using BM and it could get much worse by using BM.


i agree

id much rather lynch him or one of the inactives and use the watcher/tracker thing on someone else



So lets lynch him, and see what happens.

Reading more bickering yadda yadda.. Okay lets just lynch BM and see what happens. Okey? Ok. Then maybe DivineK.


Hey negative attitude for what we can accomplish for day 1. Seems like someone is trying to get NOTHING done. Also quick to agree with Pyrr right after saying that we shouldn't be theorizing about what people say. Pyrr just said we should be suspicious of people based on who they defend WHICH IS THEORIZING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SAY. (Oh burn) Also pushing the suspicion on you to other people doesn't help as we're suspicious of them anyways.
Finally Div is sure that BM is getting checked because he's following along with Pandain's plan.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:08 GMT
#568
On August 07 2010 12:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 11:58 SouthRawrea wrote:
Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched.

You think I'm ninja because I think there are 3 ninjas and because I claimed to be a ninja vigi fake-batman townie medic? Whatever, man. Enjoy the astral plane and bring me back some nirvana.



Well usually you'd theorize about the number of ninjas without outright saying there are 3 would you n ot? This is coming from the guy who said this when speaking of the medic count and Flamewheel's wording.
On August 07 2010 11:34 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
To make sure we can't be sure of how many there are?


So you know that flamewheel could be trying to be ambiguous about the number of people of each role yet you somehow chose 3 instead of perhaps 1.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:10 GMT
#572
3 and 1 ninja that is. Wouldn't it be strange to think that Flame added so much KP into this game? 3(maf)+3(ninja)+1?(vig)+2(madhatter)
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:10 GMT
#573
Well 2 then lol.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:11 GMT
#575
Question: What if there are more than 1 trackers/watchers?
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:21 GMT
#585
Greens don't know if they're nosy or not though so that means nothing.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:33 GMT
#593
Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 03:46 GMT
#606
On August 07 2010 12:37 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 12:33 SouthRawrea wrote:
Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan.

Any chance you want to talk in the thread and on the record about why you switched your vote from Bill Murray to love1another in order to switch it from 5-4 to 4-5?


This helps Pandain's plan? Idk why else? I feel the next best idea is to vote someone who is clearly inactive and of no help. My initial vote was a placeholder anyways. Why else would I vote SO early?
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 07 2010 04:09 GMT
#622
Gonna stick with the simple one and bid you all good night.
SouthRawrea
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August 07 2010 13:26 GMT
#730
On August 07 2010 20:48 Bill Murray wrote:
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On August 07 2010 20:39 youngminii wrote:
^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what?

i understand that mafia is an emotional game, and you're more than welcome to attack me as a person/player slot, but would you mind refraining from dropping the G. D.s? thanks.


Harsh.
The problem with your plan Bill Murray and Pandain's is what if there's more than 1 tracker OR watcher? We're fucked then if we continue along with either of your plans. The chances of this being the case are NOT negligible either.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 07 2010 14:06 GMT
#731
I do suggest that we go through with Pandain's plan because we have nothing to lose anyways. If we get way too many visits for some reason, we drop it basically.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 08 2010 00:08 GMT
#769
Oh god first thing I did when I got back today was Open SC2, play a few matches and then Runling run. That game is addictivee.... can't get the music about James Bond outta my head either. Seems nothing useful since I came back either Divinek lol. Perhaps I can address LSB's post. The Pandain plan does not call for the tracker to claim.

I suppose you guys have read it in my short post already but I would like to say that if the plan that we choose does somehow fail from too many visits or something. We can just drop it the next day, come up with a new plan, and let the watcher+tracker keep in mind what they saw. One thing I would like to mention is that if we end up having to forget about the plan, we either have a tracker out in the open or not. The question is do we want to out a blue to gain him as a confirmee or do we want zero loss, zero gain? I'd just like to hear thoughts.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 08 2010 00:11 GMT
#770
On August 08 2010 09:09 Roffles wrote:
##Unvote Myself
##Vote love1another


Wonder why I made this choice...


Just would like to say that you were safe for the time being, you only gained 1 net vote after Flame's count and love1another gained 3. There wasn't a need to change the gap by 2 .
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 08 2010 00:57 GMT
#773
Can't wait for Day9, Day9 would be pretty epic.
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 08 2010 01:40 GMT
#783
No you are player.
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 08 2010 19:46 GMT
#854
Very nice. Just logged on and got a PM from LSB alerting me of this plan. The only possible hole in the plan is if Xelin is one of those roles lol. Also.. where are my super secret instructions?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 08 2010 22:05 GMT
#872
Don't worry the watcher will NOT ignore the plan. By the way the first thing they should do is make a post when they log in the next day. Also, if I'm correct watcher is tracked, they'll be seen not visiting anyone? That's the way it usually is anyhow. Just for future reference.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 02:44 GMT
#902
Maf can intentionally not kill. They may be trying to sneak a supposedly clear or semi-clear townie in I think. I find it hard to believe that the Bus Driver drove Xelin. What a horrid idea that would be. Medic would most likely not screw with the plan as it's his chance to get in the town circle. IF he did not save Xelin and 1 mafia member decided to visit Xelin then Watcher assumes that no mafia visited because Xelin would've gotten 3 visits. BAD IDEA. No way. If medic was that stupid then I hate them D:. Let's ignore that possibility outright. This means Foolishness=Mafia, Ninja or veteran (who is now of no use because he's took a hit already). I suggest we lynch him. 1/3 chance for mafia, 1/3 chance for ninja, 1/3 chance for basically a green because he took a hit supposedly.

Now for the good news. Now that we know that Chaoser was nosy, that reduces the possible number of Nosies that we have left and if the watcher saw Chaoser visit Xelin then he can rule out that possibility. Overall good night because plan went through and we have a good lynch candidate.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 02:46 GMT
#903
Oh and vig if you shot, please step up. It'd be pretty nonsensical for you to shoot N1 but please say if you did.
SouthRawrea
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Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 02:52 GMT
#911
On August 09 2010 11:49 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 11:39 BrownBear wrote:
Ok, so in addition to all of the crap currently going on, I was roleblocked last night.

Wait. Are you an idiot? You just claimed a blue role like that?


Well that screws things up. Just tell us one thing now that you've claimed blue. Don't tell us your role yet but did it interfere with the plan?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 02:59 GMT
#916
On August 09 2010 11:52 SouthRawrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 11:49 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 09 2010 11:39 BrownBear wrote:
Ok, so in addition to all of the crap currently going on, I was roleblocked last night.

Wait. Are you an idiot? You just claimed a blue role like that?


Well that screws things up. Just tell us one thing now that you've claimed blue. Don't tell us your role yet but did it interfere with the plan?


Scratch that.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 15:32 GMT
#1077
Mafia IMHO at this point. Most of these aren't backed up entirely, just feelings I'm getting in order from most to least suspicious.

Foolishness
Bill Murray
DTA
Brownbear
Chezinu
Divinek

If you wonder why I would even consider that they have that many experienced players, then consider the fact the game itself has quite a few as well as the fact that the game seems to have gone seamlessly for mafia with the town taking no real action. I'd just like to put my list out there.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 15:59 GMT
#1081
Question: Why is Youngminii tied for votes against Bill Murray? Something is wrong here. If there is a reason for those votes please tell us. This would've probably been brought up later once the vote count came in.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 17:59 GMT
#1101
On August 10 2010 02:18 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 00:32 SouthRawrea wrote:
Mafia IMHO at this point. Most of these aren't backed up entirely, just feelings I'm getting in order from most to least suspicious.

Foolishness
Bill Murray
DTA
Brownbear
Chezinu
Divinek

If you wonder why I would even consider that they have that many experienced players, then consider the fact the game itself has quite a few as well as the fact that the game seems to have gone seamlessly for mafia with the town taking no real action. I'd just like to put my list out there.


seriously duuuuuude dont post feelings post reasons

poking at shit like that makes you look really scum, because it looks like you're just trying to fan the flames onto other people.

Not that i believe you're scum or anything this game, yet. It just doesnt help at all.


Was just checking for reactions to see if there was anyone sheeping along haha. Oh and for the post on top of this page, I meant Youngminii. Why are there so many for youngminii?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 17:59 GMT
#1102
BTW fail... I mean the top of last page.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 09 2010 20:34 GMT
#1137
On August 10 2010 05:27 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.

Oh well.


Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed.


uhg... maybe in your previous games they have all been roleplaying games. But you don't have to stay in character here.

We need real content not just stories, and I know you are thinking that it is clever hiding stuff in them but we don't know what is real and what isn't. It ends up being no better than getting clues that the mafia can twist.


I didn't see BloodyC0bbler roleplay last game...
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 01:08 GMT
#1224
On August 10 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:11 Bill Murray wrote:
from what ive seen i dont know if we even have a medic
we might just have bus drivers


10 bus drivers gogogo


INFINITE BUS DRIVING LOOP

Also who edited and where?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 01:51 GMT
#1230
On August 10 2010 10:46 Bill Murray wrote:
shut up hesmyrr
you are much more likely mafia or ninja than i am
noone should trust someone who posts once a day anyways


Hey, calm your rage and one post a day is better than 20 spam posts a day okay MISTER? :D
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 02:04 GMT
#1234
HEY HEY NO NONE OF THAT. THINK POSITIVE. "IF I WERE A DAYCOP I'D BE INVESTIGATING YOU!" THINK POSITIVE.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 02:35 GMT
#1252
Whoa, if you're mafia they must be applauding you lol. Regardless this was a very good read. I still maintain my opinion of voting for you as my main reasons were not concerning your behaviour but just that I find it's more likely that you're a role other than veteran. The two of which that are the most likely are/can be harmful to the town. Your points are quite valid however. Even if you end up flipping red later, I'll definitely take your posts into consideration. One problem I do recognize however is that it does seem to me that you're really trying to squeeze information out of actions that aren't very defining of the conclusions you've come to. Nevertheless thank you very much for investing your time into these posts. I do agree that Youngminii should step it up a notch though. (This is explainable by a few things though. Sometimes you can just get really tired of doing it. Like I was playing runling run yesterday and I really wasn't feeling it. I quit after one game O.o. I usually love that game.)
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 02:47 GMT
#1255
I mean Foolishness haha was typing it up and everyone else beat me to the punch.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 02:56 GMT
#1258
On August 10 2010 11:45 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 11:35 SouthRawrea wrote:
Whoa, if you're mafia they must be applauding you lol. Regardless this was a very good read. I still maintain my opinion of voting for you as my main reasons were not concerning your behaviour but just that I find it's more likely that you're a role other than veteran. The two of which that are the most likely are/can be harmful to the town. Your points are quite valid however. Even if you end up flipping red later, I'll definitely take your posts into consideration. One problem I do recognize however is that it does seem to me that you're really trying to squeeze information out of actions that aren't very defining of the conclusions you've come to. Nevertheless thank you very much for investing your time into these posts. I do agree that Youngminii should step it up a notch though. (This is explainable by a few things though. Sometimes you can just get really tired of doing it. Like I was playing runling run yesterday and I really wasn't feeling it. I quit after one game O.o. I usually love that game.)

Im assuming this is about BM? Alright seems conclusive.



Lol failvote cuz u thought I was talking about BM.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 03:05 GMT
#1260
Yeah my last post wasn't necessary as I had no idea what MMBOP meant haha.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 03:24 GMT
#1266
Question: Where is the person in question? Youngminii? Let's give him(her?) a chance like I got last game :D. No but really we need to hear from him because even if he is eventually going to be lynched, if we get posts from him as a defense that gives us some things to go over. More content=more we may be able to know as a town.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 03:46 GMT
#1268
I tried to start up a PM home for myself in PM land but no one wanted to live with me D:.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 15:49 GMT
#1358
On August 10 2010 14:51 ~OpZ~ wrote:
1. Chezinu
2. Bill Murray
3. Pandain
4. DarthThienAn
5. Divinek
6. youngminii
7. VayeshMoru
8. rastaban
9. Pyrrhuloxia
10. XeliN
11. love1another (Townie, Day 1 Lynch)
12. Amber[LighT] - WtF amber is playing too?
13. Chaoser (Nosy Neighbor, Night 1)
14. Artanis[Xp] - Yo....Post..
15. BrownBear
16. zeks - Zeks is mafia.
17. KF91 - ....You're playing?
18. bumatlarge - I see you posting....
19. Foolishness - I believe he's veteran.
20. iNfuNdiBuLuM
21. Iaaan (Townie, Day 1 Modkill)
22. LSB (Townie, Night 1)
23. ~OpZ~ - STFU
24. Misder - Post
25. tree.hugger
26. Jayme - ....When is his last post?
27. Roffles - Wtf Roffles...Post again god damn....
28. Hesmyrr - ...I told you...
29. SouthRawrea - Post something intelligent...
30. larjarse - Post more


Not a very intelligent post.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 15:50 GMT
#1359
Sorry for double post but does anyone know when Youngminii gets back from vacation?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 17:59 GMT
#1365
Okay just so I don't make a mistake by PMing Xelin, who here has whispered him with their role? I find it hard to believe that most of you have.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 19:41 GMT
#1388
Ooh just realized how bad it'd make me look if YM flipped red haha. Oh dear. Should I do what Bill Murray openly did and try to please the rest of the town? :/ Nah I'm good making my own decisions and I'm not too familiar with the whole argument against the playstyles of various players so I really can't have much comment on that unless I'm sheeping.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 10 2010 20:31 GMT
#1392
He's calling him the god mod.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 11 2010 01:33 GMT
#1478
Happy Birthday!!!
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 11 2010 01:40 GMT
#1482
Called it in PM land haha.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 11 2010 02:02 GMT
#1489
Next for BM the ninja. :O
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 11 2010 14:26 GMT
#1526
On August 11 2010 14:49 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 14:47 Roffles wrote:
You know what I hate the most?

Fanfics. Shitty fanfics.


Least im constructive :p


We need a generic fanfic character plz.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 11 2010 20:16 GMT
#1537
Whoa happy birthday to you too!
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 11 2010 23:34 GMT
#1543
Oh yeah you've been doing so well.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 16:36 GMT
#1659
I have a suspicion of who is a certain blue role. I will begin PMing them. Either that or they're in the town circle which is good too.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 17:11 GMT
#1661
Um oh shit I put my post in the voting thread.
On August 13 2010 02:11 SouthRawrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 13:50 Misder wrote:
##Vote Roffles

Sorry, I forgot to vote after I said that I was going to vote for him...




Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 08:25 Misder wrote:
##Unvote youngminii
##Vote Pandain


So far these two votes were nothing but bandwagons.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 12:22 Misder wrote:
On August 07 2010 11:44 Roffles wrote:
Honestly, I don't give a fuck what goes on Day 1. Just a bunch of nonsense garbage spewed out by everyone who's got no clue what anyone is.

That being said, I don't see why BM doesn't understand why his plan won't work.


In all of the confusion of the plan (that might just be me though...), we shouldn't miss these posts. Roffles just stated that the plan that is very probable of getting a mafia name is not important. This may mean that Roffles is trying to frame this plan as "nonsense garbage", meaning we shouldn't continue with the plan. More scummy than town.
And this post is one of two posts he posted. Granted, he did state that he doesn't want to post too much, but still...

I'm going to vote roffles. He doesn't even seem like to he's reading the thread. Either he is townie and just doesn't post (which is unlikely as he is more of a veteran mafia player), a blue (also unlikely because he would actually pay attention to the plan), a ninja (likely, cause he has no point in helping), or mafia (which may be likely because he doesn't want to post). Town makes a good lynch if he is ninja, or if he is mafia.


The reason he gave for voting Roffles was a few pages after Divinek called 7 people out for being inactive. Both Roffles and Misder were on that list. Basically this post is formulated of hypocrisy. Clearly his intent was to shift ANY sort of pressure off onto someone else.

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 12:40 Misder wrote:
I think that Foolishness is innocent. We have been sending PMs to each other, and I have been trying to help him get information about some people, which I can't say who. If Foolishness was mafia, he would be helping to kill his own mafia members. I also want to make a public apology to Foolishness for not doing what he told me on time. I have been stuck in class the entire day, and cannot post or pm during that time. I'm actually sneaking out to right this. I really have to go.

Also, when I read that LSB is suspicious of me being mafia, I cannot click the link; it makes a 404 error. If anyone can point me to that post, I would be happy to answer why I posted the way I did.


This next post is nonsense. He's been trying to help get him information? What? Unless you had confirmed each others' roles why on earth would you do this. Just going to ignore the part I bolded. What I would like to call to attention is what exactly did Foolishness ask him to do? This is extremely strange behaviour. Even as a new player, why would you want someone controlling your gameplay? Should you not come into this game prepared to avoid manipulation? Surely something is going on behind the scenes in PM land here. I'm not asking for you to bring out the particularily risky parts about peoples' roles but please enlighten me as to what is going on within your PMs that regards looking into peoples' roles (as opposed to just peoples' roles) and the connection you two had SO early in the game.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 08:18 Misder wrote:
After doing analysis and looking at previous games in which he was in, I am going to vote for youngminii here. He claims that he doesn't want to spam, it seems very very out of his style. If he was trying to improve, I still think that he would write good posts like he did in his first game in Godfather Mafia, but right now, he isn't doing that. It seems like he is posting less, but its like all spam and defending himself. I will vote for him until he gives a legitimate reason.

About that link where Divinek said that he was going to vote for me, but forgot and voted for Pandain instead, this does not legitamize anything. Divinek just forgot that I was in the game, and he has a grudge on me from the last game.


Here he regurgitates reasons for voting Youngminii that were previously given which is what makes his vote a bandwagon vote/sheeping as well.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 12:41 bumatlarge wrote:
Hey uh, misder and tree hugger, why dont you come and say that stuff in PM land in here?


What you could call the nail in the coffin (lol HDStarcraft). Both Misder and Tree.hugger the revealed mafia were engaging in a PM conversation with bumatlarge? I would like to ask bumatlarge to reveal these PMs because they haven't met his request at this point in time. This is especially suspicious because as Misder previously revealed he was trying to find peoples' roles. He also has less than 10 posts.

I would like to call the town to vote Misder because frankly, this is the scummiest gameplay I've ever seen.

SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 17:14 GMT
#1664
He's Vaysheumaru so he's trying to stay in character. I assume it was authorized by Flamewheel.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 17:36 GMT
#1671
I did not say you did. I linked you with Foolishness and was asking about the PMs you guys had. For tree.hugger I was asking about the PMs you two were sending Bumatlarge.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 17:42 GMT
#1673
It's in this thread too. I quoted it. I also asked for permission from Flamewheel to remove it.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 18:07 GMT
#1675
Okay nvm Flamewheel wants me to leave it.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 19:27 GMT
#1677
On August 13 2010 03:16 Misder wrote:
Divinek did call me out on being inactive. I tried to be active. Now you are saying that I can't show that roffles hasn't been helping the town at all, without being scummy... Then, what should I do instead, spam?

I've said that you STILL haven't been active and are in no place to call someone else on being inactive. Also, substance? PLEASE.
Post 1 Pg14 after /in : Blah blah I'll be active, don't lynch inactives.

Post 2 Pg15: Very early vote count. Pointless. Counting 7/30 people.

Post 3 Pg19: Good question but the plan wasn't an entirely good one anyways nor could it happen on N1.

Post 4 Pg30: Attacking Roffles for having 1 less post than he did. Honestly, "framing" a plan as "nonsense garbage" wouldn't really sway the town in any way.

Post 5 Pg48: Revealing his link with Foolishness and telling us his reason for inactiveness for just that particular day. Also as Divinek said: "real solid evidence there!"

Post 6 Pg60: Having some fabled analysis that he hasn't shown us and claiming that he knows things about Youngminii's style after having played only 2 games. Seems like he's regurgitating other arguments and perhaps something Foolishness had PMed him.

Post 7 Pg72: Asking about Bumatlarge's list and his lack of proof, an promise about an analysis on larjarse and him being "very scummy" as well as a generic "lynch all liars" reason for lynch Pandain. Also that was not the reason why the town lost last game entirely. Blue snipes were a huge portion of the reason why the town lost.

Post 8 Pg77: His "analysis".
On August 12 2010 03:45 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 14:44 larjarse wrote:
BTW this leaves BillMurray and divinek tied at 3 votes each.


Stating the two choices that we could have seen by looking at the voting thread.

Pointing out a fault that is common in both his posts and larjarses. (See Post 2)

Okay some of your points are valid there but this is his first game as well. I'm not saying he isn't mafia, he very well could be. You're now involved in 1 finished game and 2 other ongoing games. Going through an entire thread game brings alot of experience I'd say. I've definitely seen more action last game than any short real-time game.

Post 9 Pg77: Maybe Roffles= ninja?

Post 10 Pg84: Bringing attention back to your analysis of a noob and showing us the PM from Foolishness. Also defense.

So basically only one vote with good content and it's attacking a noob so its validity is questionable at best. Btw not counting the most recent 2 addressed towards me. So go ahead show me this substance you speak of. Show it to me.

Also Bumatlarge explain the situation about the PMs please.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 19:30 GMT
#1678
EBWOP
Post 6 Pg60: Having some fabled analysis that he hasn't shown us and claiming that he knows things about Youngminii's style after having played only 1 game WITH HIM. Seems like he's regurgitating other arguments and perhaps something Foolishness had PMed him.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 20:38 GMT
#1686
Post 2 -> We're all guilty of this at one time or another but it really doesn't help unless you're credible. In fact I'm guilty of this in this thread so I'll drop my point about this post in particular.
Post 4 -> Of course I read his posts, but pointing out someone that had slightly less than you doesn't help at all nor does it prove a single thing. It merely pushes the suspicion on to someone else.
Post 5 -> I believe you have real life problems. That has nothing to do with post 5. Why're y
Post 6 -> Well you can still give us your analysis of Youngminii by copypasting the stuff you sent in the Sent part of your inbox.
Post 8 -> You were giving reasons for why you though larjarse was mafia. Anything you quoted obviously had something to do with his scumminess. Sorry i though last game was your first game. I was pointing this out to say that at least he has an excuse for his fault while you who are more experienced do not.
Post 9 -> Just pointing out that it had no content really.
Post 10 -> Yes I agree most of it was defense but again you were pushing suspicion off to Larjarse.

Also, kinda funny because one of the reasons I started this was to get you to post more haha.
Bumatlarge said that he never was in contact with you just a moment ago . My biggest beef with you I guess is that you've been redirecting suspicion to other people for reasons that apply to you as well. I'm not as sure that you're mafia now but you're still pretteh scummy to me as well as claiming you have content in the few posts that you have when you really don't.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 20:48 GMT
#1689
On August 13 2010 05:22 Bill Murray wrote:
southrawrea get rid of that ugly ass post in the voting thread please


Flamewheel won't let me D:
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 20:49 GMT
#1691
D:
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 21:06 GMT
#1694
Pyrrhuloxia, pray tell me how am i being manipulated by Foolishness when clearly I voted him and Bill Murray day 1 and 2? I haven't been impeding your crusade either.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 12 2010 21:16 GMT
#1697
On August 13 2010 06:11 Bill Murray wrote:
why am i still being associated with foolishness? lol this is so dumb


Well I'm saying that based on Foolishness's supposed Mafia crew lol. Sorry for any implications that you're mafia.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 13 2010 01:13 GMT
#1708
Post 4: Well I'm pressuring you now I guess haha.

Bumatlarge has stated that as well. Very revealing . To me I get a better vibe from you even knowing that this could be a mafia ploy with the PMs early on from either side or both.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 15 2010 23:01 GMT
#1860
Whew sorry back from a short trip and BOOM CALLED IT on Misder :D.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 16 2010 00:21 GMT
#1888
On August 16 2010 09:13 Foolishness wrote:
Anybody wanna take bets on whether he's going to get away with that?


Too late lol.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 16 2010 13:54 GMT
#1912
Just gonna vote myself to avoid causing confusion for town and because even though I'm green my death benefits us anyways.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 16 2010 17:48 GMT
#1923
Dude. I wasn't fishing info at all. I asked what he thought of Misder's alignment. GTFO. This was after Misder asked him what he thought of my alignment. Fishing. Show it to me.
Oh and this helps us because we have more green claims than we should have meaning that getting me killed narrows down our targets. Dude. Kill me, expect me to flip green.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 16 2010 17:52 GMT
#1925
NVM I kinda did fish out of BC I thought u meant BM.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 16 2010 17:52 GMT
#1926
I don't go on MSN while playing SC2 lol
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 16 2010 19:19 GMT
#1927
Btw even though I know we've already got Misder, I'd just like to say that he thought earlier in the thread that I was village. Now he's voting for me? Clearly a futile attempt at moving a vote off him while trying to sheep along with town but yeah no one change your votes off either of us please.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 16 2010 20:48 GMT
#1934
On August 17 2010 04:33 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 04:19 SouthRawrea wrote:
Btw even though I know we've already got Misder, I'd just like to say that he thought earlier in the thread that I was village. Now he's voting for me? Clearly a futile attempt at moving a vote off him while trying to sheep along with town but yeah no one change your votes off either of us please.


Typically mafia will imply eachother are innocent to feign analysis / keep heat off their own members.

Him calling you town could easily just be a cover.


Well I want both of us dead. So . I hereby declare that anything I say from this point on regarding scumminess, roles or votes during this day is now to be completely ignored. Any attempt to sway your opinions on my part is clearly a scummy action which should give you all the more reason to vote me. Now let's get this day over with.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 17 2010 01:44 GMT
#1969
Dude just lynch me and move on lol. We get to narrow down our suspects on the list of alleged greens. It's all gravy.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 17 2010 02:15 GMT
#1974
Told ye. Let the rage commence.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#1976
Who is that ^
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 18 2010 19:52 GMT
#2123
Yeahhhh we winz
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 18 2010 21:30 GMT
#2126
Nerf BC's Eyes and Hands please.
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