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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 09 2010 21:41 GMT
#1161
On August 10 2010 06:29 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Yeah, I don't like how town seems unable to do blue plans and scum hunt at the same time.

When are you going to be away from your computer? I need to post stuff about youngminii and I can't afford to have you spam it away.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 09 2010 21:41 GMT
#1162
On August 10 2010 06:28 larjarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 12:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:36 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Uh... mafia could not send in a kill and roleblock anyone?


Hmm.. I don't really see the mafia opted out of a roleblock. It's like a 1/3 chance of getting a blue, and with LSB's plan all over the front page last night, they definitely wouldn't pass they opportunity up..

Eh could happen if my list was right :/ how bout we lynch BM and sees about it? Yes, I think so.


This is ten pages back. I wanted to do this day 1. Why dont we just lynch BM and see what happens? All these vets are so caught up in the scheming that they are afraid to go against other vets.


what do you mean see what happens?

what do we gain from lynching him? prove that he played like an idiot like the start of every other game?

your reasoning behind it is pretty non existant, and im still watching you boy. Our blue roles should really be keeping an eye on lurkers like you if you're not being lynched.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 21:42 GMT
#1163
On August 10 2010 06:41 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:29 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Yeah, I don't like how town seems unable to do blue plans and scum hunt at the same time.

When are you going to be away from your computer? I need to post stuff about youngminii and I can't afford to have you spam it away.

Um I will definetly be away from my computer from 4 am to 8 am pacific time.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 09 2010 21:42 GMT
#1164
On August 10 2010 06:41 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:28 larjarse wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:36 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Uh... mafia could not send in a kill and roleblock anyone?


Hmm.. I don't really see the mafia opted out of a roleblock. It's like a 1/3 chance of getting a blue, and with LSB's plan all over the front page last night, they definitely wouldn't pass they opportunity up..

Eh could happen if my list was right :/ how bout we lynch BM and sees about it? Yes, I think so.


This is ten pages back. I wanted to do this day 1. Why dont we just lynch BM and see what happens? All these vets are so caught up in the scheming that they are afraid to go against other vets.


what do you mean see what happens?

what do we gain from lynching him? prove that he played like an idiot like the start of every other game?

your reasoning behind it is pretty non existant, and im still watching you boy. Our blue roles should really be keeping an eye on lurkers like you if you're not being lynched.

The only blue role working against lurkers is me.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 21:46 GMT
#1165
On August 10 2010 06:41 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:28 larjarse wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:36 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Uh... mafia could not send in a kill and roleblock anyone?


Hmm.. I don't really see the mafia opted out of a roleblock. It's like a 1/3 chance of getting a blue, and with LSB's plan all over the front page last night, they definitely wouldn't pass they opportunity up..

Eh could happen if my list was right :/ how bout we lynch BM and sees about it? Yes, I think so.


This is ten pages back. I wanted to do this day 1. Why dont we just lynch BM and see what happens? All these vets are so caught up in the scheming that they are afraid to go against other vets.


what do you mean see what happens?

what do we gain from lynching him? prove that he played like an idiot like the start of every other game?

We figure out that Foolishness is GF because he vociferously defended BM despite his idiocy.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 09 2010 21:50 GMT
#1166
What about Chezinu? There's still his either fake or stupid claim we should be looking at...
SUNSFANNED
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 21:50 GMT
#1167
On August 10 2010 06:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:41 Divinek wrote:
On August 10 2010 06:28 larjarse wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:36 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Uh... mafia could not send in a kill and roleblock anyone?


Hmm.. I don't really see the mafia opted out of a roleblock. It's like a 1/3 chance of getting a blue, and with LSB's plan all over the front page last night, they definitely wouldn't pass they opportunity up..

Eh could happen if my list was right :/ how bout we lynch BM and sees about it? Yes, I think so.


This is ten pages back. I wanted to do this day 1. Why dont we just lynch BM and see what happens? All these vets are so caught up in the scheming that they are afraid to go against other vets.


what do you mean see what happens?

what do we gain from lynching him? prove that he played like an idiot like the start of every other game?

We figure out that Foolishness is GF because he vociferously defended BM despite his idiocy.


I defended BM, can I be the Principal too?
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 09 2010 21:54 GMT
#1168
I'm switching vote over to Chez, because I want him to explain himself more.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 09 2010 21:56 GMT
#1169
the fact people are trying to lynch me without any case, or information, and the fact i'm NOT mafia, makes me think it's a scum-driven wagon that has looked opportunistic to lurkers

we, as a town, need to pick a target to keep me alive so i can continue to help the town
pyrrhuloxia is a great target in my opinion, because he has been very anti-town and trying to spread chaos
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 21:56 GMT
#1170
On August 10 2010 06:50 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 10 2010 06:41 Divinek wrote:
On August 10 2010 06:28 larjarse wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:36 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Uh... mafia could not send in a kill and roleblock anyone?


Hmm.. I don't really see the mafia opted out of a roleblock. It's like a 1/3 chance of getting a blue, and with LSB's plan all over the front page last night, they definitely wouldn't pass they opportunity up..

Eh could happen if my list was right :/ how bout we lynch BM and sees about it? Yes, I think so.


This is ten pages back. I wanted to do this day 1. Why dont we just lynch BM and see what happens? All these vets are so caught up in the scheming that they are afraid to go against other vets.


what do you mean see what happens?

what do we gain from lynching him? prove that he played like an idiot like the start of every other game?

We figure out that Foolishness is GF because he vociferously defended BM despite his idiocy.


I defended BM, can I be the Principal too?

Nope, sorry.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 09 2010 21:58 GMT
#1171
Haha actually surprised no one mentioned how I haven't posted for like more than 24 hours. And you go after Youngmini for a changed playstyle n.n.
Though as several people now(pming) I have been on vacation and will not be AS active, but hopefully at least once a day be on for like ~1-2 hours.
Interesting things happened, and after reading the thread I've thought of some things.

Chezinu: What the fadoodle. I mean seriously, wtf. WHY DID YOU NOT FOLLOW THE PLAN!
All you did until you claimed was post non-relavant pieces of content. LSB's plan was a good one. IT was almost absolutely flawless, and you can tell even the mafia were shaking in their boots because they assasinated him. He's new right? So the plan is the only reason they killed him. Meaning:
1. They knew it would work/afraid it would almost certainly
They also probably devised a counter plan to do: perhaps even involving a certain someone false claiming tracker therefore seemingly ruining the plan. Not saying you're lying, but if you're not you just fadoodled the town. I mean, if you didn't track, than alot of blues just wasted their check for nothing. Seriously Chezinu, I know you "like to do your own stuff" but you're expierenced and should know if you're going to let something like that happen you should at The VERY LEAST say why you felt the plan was bad.
It's stuff like this that make me question you.

In addition, people who argued against the plan in thread or pm should be looked at carefully, as well as people who claimed "the plan has died!" after the post.

The plan is alive, and the plan can work. Make it work people. We know that BB was roleblocked, so Xelin wasn't roleblocked. Meaning the mafia 99.9999% surely did frame Xelin. Therefore, if DT's found anything else Xelin is GF. But he's almost certainly not.

If there is another tracker, I highly suggest they claim now. Why?
Chezinu claimed to be tracker. For reasons above and more I don't believe he truly is. I think mafia made him GF and let him be tracker because they needed to ruin the plan.
With another tracker, they track Chezinu.

Xelin, if Chezinu is in your circle, please beware. He may have claimed to you as tracker, but unless you 100% know for a fact he is (which I doubt you do) I think you should watch out.
Be careful with your info.

I do believe Xelin is innocent, but I have no proof and it's just my gut so I will comment on that no more.

It seems to me Foolishness is in all likelihood telling the truth. However, if he was protected by med he should say so, in which case the plan might very well be ruined.

Food for thought as I'm about to go:
1.Lynch Chezinu, if he's tracker than we know VM is innocent. Confirmed=yay

Comment on everything here. Hopefully I'll be back tomorrow or something. Responding to PM's now.
Have a good day! n.n
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 09 2010 22:00 GMT
#1172
Haha just realized alot of those paragraphs I begin a thought, and then just end it in mid stream. Some I later figured were bad and so stopped. W/e, have to go. Have fun deciphering my madness!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 09 2010 22:00 GMT
#1173
chezinu could be in ur city, claimin tracker, tryin to use up his veteran lifez
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 09 2010 22:01 GMT
#1174
@ Pandain, I'm a veteran, there wasn't a medic on me last night. I'm sure this has already been said
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 09 2010 22:11 GMT
#1175
from what ive seen i dont know if we even have a medic
we might just have bus drivers
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 22:11 GMT
#1176
On August 10 2010 07:11 Bill Murray wrote:
from what ive seen i dont know if we even have a medic
we might just have bus drivers


10 bus drivers gogogo
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 09 2010 22:13 GMT
#1177
thats about how many trackers we seem to have
how many tracker claims do we have

also, why the hell are random lurkers voting for me?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
August 09 2010 22:15 GMT
#1178
At this point I am urging anyone who hasn't roleclaimed to me already to do so, I'm only able to verify myself 100% to people who I can in turn verify, but if anyone is willing to trust at this point and claim to me it would be quite helpful.

I guess it might be obvious at this point that If I was lying in what i've been asserting then I would have been called out by now, and that hopefully is enough to persuade people of my innocence.

But anyway plz claim to me, especially the WATCHER.... who im starting to think is not even in this game which would be a great shame
Adonai bless
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:17 GMT
#1179
On August 10 2010 06:56 Bill Murray wrote:
the fact people are trying to lynch me without any case, or information, and the fact i'm NOT mafia, makes me think it's a scum-driven wagon that has looked opportunistic to lurkers

we, as a town, need to pick a target to keep me alive so i can continue to help the town
pyrrhuloxia is a great target in my opinion, because he has been very anti-town and trying to spread chaos

Oh yeah, no case whatsoever.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 09 2010 09:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Alright, so instead of a big pre-dawn post I'll try to make this quick. [EDIT: Still turned out long even though I left out a bunch of quotes]

Bill Murray and Foolishness are the two obvious reds to me. They were best buddies, I pointed out Foolishness chainsaw defending BM twice, and all of a sudden they are bluffing against each other. Simple enough. If BM flips red and you don't take out Foolishness, fuck you town, you deserve the loss and more.

Need a recap?

BM begged for all blues to claim to him
BM kept pushing for plans involving blues claiming to town before anything confirmed goes down.
BM was fishing for Pandain's role in PM.
Foolishness isn't playing his town or blue style at all.
He was furiously defending BM right at the start of the game, despite BM's style being about the exact opposite of what Foolishness usually likes to see when playing as town.
BM was too busy pushing his sketchy plans to do any scumhunting day 1. He claimed Divinek was mafia, then backed off, voted for love1another and didn't make any hard push for anyone else. As soon as day breaks, he attempts to rewrite history by saying he was pushing for Foolishness's lynch but no one would listen. Watch him fail to seriously go after Foolishness on Day 2 and respond accordingly. If Foolishness gets lynched and flips red before Bill Murray, DO NOT trust BM regardless of what part he played in killing Foolishness.

If Foolishness and BM flip innocent feel free to bash on me and I'm sorry.

So if BM flips red and then Foolishness flips red, who to look at next then?

Hesmyrr: laid low, came out and put a FoS on BM while voting to save BM. I know Foolishness told the hatter to put a bomb on Hesmyrr; ignore this. Low risk of hatter following that, Foolishness didn't give a reason why, even if a hatter did that the hatter might not die for a while so it could keep him alive longer. Really, the post didn't seem to have any real intended effect, just the surface effect of putting the two players at odds - kinda like BM's quick FoS on Hesmyrr and some other player.

BrownBear: BM's first post subtly defended BB. He tried to help BM shoot down LSB's plan by pointing out small technicalities when BM's plan is nothing but one big huge liability. BM points out that a BB post is scummy as fuck and prompty goes no where with this line of reasoning. Posts about the same time as Foolishness during the time BM starts to get saved in the voting thread.

Foolishness says "What if BM doesn't get lynched (for whatever reason)?

BrownBear says "Are we really lynching BM day 1?"

Neither care to engage the argument on merits. BB and Foolishness both seem to be awfully focused on what happens to BM - I am too, but it's because he's scummy. No one should be so trust worthy of other players so early that they are willing to defend them so much; that's why it's weird that BM uses his first post to say that the mafia probably haven't posted yet.

Also, he PM'd me to say he is suspicious of BM but doesn't want to vote for him, which echoes Hesmyrr.

LSB: He was the first person I suspected; I don't suspect him anymore, though. BM's first post seemed to defend either him, or BB, or maybe both. I thought it was odd that he said that killing and inactive usually hurts town but argued for it anyway. He also posted from the perspective of mafia saying something "doesn't seem like a plan the mafia would fall for".

I like his plan, though. I don't think mafia would propose competing plans. If they did, it would be to confuse people so no plan happens but LSB has been really key in organizing and PMing so people can get on the same page. If the plan falls apart and backfires and some loophole gets revealed, take a look at him, but I think he's okay now.

bumatlarge was on my list for helping with the divinek thing but I'm not too on to him anymore. So my list is actually down to four - big dissapointment, I know.

I love the posts from Chezinu and his clone. Unfortunately they are very anti-town so you'll have to figure that out with DT or Ninja checks or lynches.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 09 2010 22:20 GMT
#1180
Agreed, watcher claim.
Also: To whoever broke the Secret Friendship Alliance, you have just broken my heart.
Watcher you have the info town needs. We can tell Xelin is innocent because if he was red they wouldn't have killed LSB, because the plan would've already been ruined (aka doon't need framer to frame him.) So you can find out the truth aka. But you need to trust him.
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