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On August 07 2010 10:49 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 10:39 LSB wrote:
Q4 Newbie question: If we don’t kill the inactives now, when do we kill them?
well we vote for them in hopes that they stop being inactive. They'll either get modkilled or having to start making some real contributions...i hope. We kill them asap unless we have REAL evidence on someone else too many times we focus on 1 or 2 inactive ish people, when there's like half a dozen. I'm really bent on trying to avoid that this game speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far 1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!! 2)Misder 3) South 4) Artanis[xp] 5)roffles 6) love1another 7) iaaan !!!im really gonna press these names cause im gonna be gone until a few hours before deadline tomorrow so hopefully EVERYONE takes a look at these god damn people dont let these lurkers slide by
Hey hey NO
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Been trying to refine Pandain's plan or come up with a different one perhaps involving the Hatter but his seems to be the best to deal with roleblocker and framer. It seems the only way to come up with a plan on Day 1 is to make public announcements and his is the best for dealing with that because we don't out any roles or allow the use of a framer.
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Also would like to mention we have multiple, stackable medics.
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I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY.
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On July 29 2010 13:12 flamewheel wrote: Boy Scout (Medic) Each Boy Scout, being still as of yet not of legal age, can only stop one hit and as such if the number of Brigade members is greater than the number of Boy Scouts on a player then that player will die. You will know if you saved the person.
On August 07 2010 11:21 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:18 SouthRawrea wrote: Also would like to mention we have multiple, stackable medics. Do we? We have people who can be used as 'medics' Watchers, Bus Drivers, Medics. But possibly only 1 medic
Why would flame mention this if there were only 1?
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On August 07 2010 11:29 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:27 SouthRawrea wrote: I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY. your logical reasoning is astounding there are no words for the stuff that comes out of your mouth really
Thank you very much. I lost track of what I was saying half way through and was hoping it would make sense. I've got the idea still in my head though. I'll try and clarify in just a moment after going through the idea itself again.
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On August 07 2010 11:01 love1another wrote:
##unvote ##vote Bill Murray
This way I don't die.
Is it important that you don't die? Seems like a softclaim blue (strange play for a blue though) but more likely to be ninja/mafia.
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On August 07 2010 11:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:29 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:27 SouthRawrea wrote: I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY. your logical reasoning is astounding there are no words for the stuff that comes out of your mouth really It's true. He seems to be on my side but he does not make sense to me.
Scenario 1a: Pyrr is Godfather. Pyrr lead the campaign against Bill Murray. If Bill Murray flips town sided, suspicion is placed upon Pyrr for possibly being a mafia creating chaos. He then is checked by tracker. If he does not show up at all, we have a lynch candidate as he is either GF or Ninja. If lynch does not go through, the other ninjas WILL kill him. Why would a Godfather want this 2-3 different groups after his ass on the same day?
Scenario 1b: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips red. Pyrr is not cleared, mafia is dead. Godfather would not want this either.
Scenario 1c: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips ninja. Nothing happens really.
Scenario 2: Pyrr is Ninja. Bill Murray flips town. Tracker on Pyrr. Pyrr does not show up. Pyrr claims ninja and has watcher+tracker on him. Watcher outs tracker+anyone else. We get a role blocker down and medic is now on watcher. Bus driver is on Pyrr. Watcher is on tracker. Boom.
This is for day 2. Do random checking on night 1 and lynch BM day 1. Does that work?
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Or do Pandain's plan and add this as an additional layer of protection to reduce the chances of the nosy townies (possibly more than 1.) getting in the way.
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Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched.
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On August 07 2010 12:00 larjarse wrote:Divinek saying I spam spam spam on pg 23: This is my first game. You also excluded my posts that had content. So vote me if you please and calm down your e rage, bro. I voted BM becauese I instinctively feel like he's up to no good. If he's actually good, then oh well, it was a 1/6 chance anyways and it's only the first day. Many can sit here and theroize why people posted what and everthing, but you probably aren't going to know who anyone is today. Pyrrhuloxia United States. August 07 2010 10:12. I think we should be suspicious of people who defend others so early.. I agree! Divinek again targeting me on pg 25: speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far 1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!! Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote: also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low (at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get)
so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think And the roleblocker/framer can change the entire story. Divinek seems sure that BM is going to be watched tonight and is posting his expected results to further defend BM and thus fuck over the town if he is actually scum. Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:46 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Maybe your plan isn't useless in the previous mentioned situations; it would be more accurate to say that it doesn't get any better by using BM and it could get much worse by using BM. i agree id much rather lynch him or one of the inactives and use the watcher/tracker thing on someone else So lets lynch him, and see what happens. Reading more bickering yadda yadda.. Okay lets just lynch BM and see what happens. Okey? Ok. Then maybe DivineK.
Hey negative attitude for what we can accomplish for day 1. Seems like someone is trying to get NOTHING done. Also quick to agree with Pyrr right after saying that we shouldn't be theorizing about what people say. Pyrr just said we should be suspicious of people based on who they defend WHICH IS THEORIZING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SAY. (Oh burn) Also pushing the suspicion on you to other people doesn't help as we're suspicious of them anyways. Finally Div is sure that BM is getting checked because he's following along with Pandain's plan.
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On August 07 2010 12:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:58 SouthRawrea wrote: Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched. You think I'm ninja because I think there are 3 ninjas and because I claimed to be a ninja vigi fake-batman townie medic? Whatever, man. Enjoy the astral plane and bring me back some nirvana.
Well usually you'd theorize about the number of ninjas without outright saying there are 3 would you n ot? This is coming from the guy who said this when speaking of the medic count and Flamewheel's wording.
On August 07 2010 11:34 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: To make sure we can't be sure of how many there are?
So you know that flamewheel could be trying to be ambiguous about the number of people of each role yet you somehow chose 3 instead of perhaps 1.
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3 and 1 ninja that is. Wouldn't it be strange to think that Flame added so much KP into this game? 3(maf)+3(ninja)+1?(vig)+2(madhatter)
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Question: What if there are more than 1 trackers/watchers?
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Greens don't know if they're nosy or not though so that means nothing.
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Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan.
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On August 07 2010 12:37 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:33 SouthRawrea wrote: Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan. Any chance you want to talk in the thread and on the record about why you switched your vote from Bill Murray to love1another in order to switch it from 5-4 to 4-5?
This helps Pandain's plan? Idk why else? I feel the next best idea is to vote someone who is clearly inactive and of no help. My initial vote was a placeholder anyways. Why else would I vote SO early?
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Gonna stick with the simple one and bid you all good night.
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On August 07 2010 20:48 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 20:39 youngminii wrote: ^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what? i understand that mafia is an emotional game, and you're more than welcome to attack me as a person/player slot, but would you mind refraining from dropping the G. D.s? thanks.
Harsh. The problem with your plan Bill Murray and Pandain's is what if there's more than 1 tracker OR watcher? We're fucked then if we continue along with either of your plans. The chances of this being the case are NOT negligible either.
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