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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 13 2010 00:39 GMT
#1707
PMs from/to Foolishness
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Can you vote youngminii?

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Original Message:
Who else do you think is in the mafia? I will try to do analysis to the people on the list. Probably one that is newer cause you know the older ones much better.

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Original Message:
VayeshMoru is BloodyCobbler, he accidentally gave it away.

If you haven't done so, please vote for youngminii, we need to keep the pressure up to find out for sure what alignment he is. The earlier we do it the better, since if he defends himself well (which he hasn't so far) we'll have enough time to switch to somebody else.

I could see Roffles being a ninja, but not DTA. I think DTA is just a townie this game, but I haven't had time to focus on any of these two players so this is just inital thoughts.

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Ok, the other game that youngminii was in was the Godfather Mafia. I don't actually know how this system goes, but I can still do analysis on this. This was the mafia game that got youngminii a reputation of doing really well. He was townie this game the entire time. In that game, he posted about ~10% of the posts in that thread. This was a 20 person game, so on average, one should post ~5%. Granted, he was one of the last people alive in that game, but I will still say that he still 'spammed'. Actually, while I was reading his posts, it actually seemed like he mostly posted good plans/analysis instead of actual spam, or at least he 's balancing it out. He goes through plans, and figure out holes in them so that the town can make a better one. A lot of his posts are three sentences or lower, but most of these posts aren't really spam. His longer posts are always really good, either a plan or analysis. When he talks to others, he is mostly like, "but you're wrong". Its not really angry, more like, you're stupid. He's very proactive in this game, like a town leader. Even though it was his first game, he is talking to everyone, and if I didn' know better, I would think that he was a veteran at the game.
The game that you and I were in the same game as him, it seemed much more spam, but there were still some good posts in there. He did cause a lot of problems in PM land, and he could have done much better. When he was under attack, he was angrier. I'm not sure if you read the thread after you died or not.
As for actual improvement, he claims that he is trying to spam less. However, it seems very very out of his style. idk. If he wasw trying to improve, I still think that he would write good posts like he did in his first game, but right now, he isn't doing that. It seems like he is posting less, but its like all spam and defending himself. He is also getting angry.

On different people, does it seem to you that roffles and DTA are ninjas? And what do you think of VayeshMoru? Do you think he is a smurf, and if so, of who?
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Yeah, I still say do the analysis anyways. It's night time now but don't take too long. This is also his 3rd game according to your list. I only played in one with him (I died first night) so I have no idea what he did in the other game.

We must be careful to account for actual improvement. Yes, he did spam a lot when he was a townie. He got criticized harshly for it. I'd expect him to tone it down a little bit as he'd figure too much is too much at some point.

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I'm sorry. I didn't have time to do what you requested. I will probably be able to do it tomorrow during the night in the game where I won't be doing much anyways.

My analysis without going actually looking for stuff: During the last mafia game in which I was with youngminii in, I was always thinking of lynching him if it wasn't for being a confirmed townie. I think this game he's a bit more passive, but he did spam a lot in the beginning of the day. I think that he's afraid to make a mistake and get lynched. I'm inclined to say that he is mafia or a blue role just because he is more cautious, but you never know.



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Okay. I think this is love1another's second game cause I seem to remember seeing his name before.

It's only the first day, should frankly you don't have a lot to of by in terms of trusting me. But right now I'm providing you a way to analyze people based on their past games. If I was mafia I'm pretty much helping you find my allies.

youngminii looks the most interesting right now. What you can do is go look at his past 2 games and read his posts, then compare to what he's doing this game. I've played one game with him so I sort of know a bit about it but that's it. Look at what his role was each game and compare to this one.

Things you might want to consider are: frequency of posting, length of posts (lengthy posts compared to one-liners), interaction with other players (does he yell at others or is he passive?). I know he kinda has a big ego, so look to make sure that's consistent through all his games.

I won't be able to catch up on the thread until close to day end unfortunately.

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New
VayeshMoru
love1another
LSB
larjarse

2nd mafia game
Pandain
SouthRawrea

3rd mafia game
Divinek
youngminii
rastaban
Misder

Artanis[xp], bumatlarge, Jayme, Hesmyrr all have more than 3 games

I think this is right. Question: why should I trust you?
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yeah yeah whatever, we got some work to do.

Right now I'm trying to draw a preliminary mafia list. Kinda hard cause nobody's sticking out this game (compared to last game I had 2 mafia members pegged relatively easily, of course I was totally wrong about 2 others I thought for sure as well).

Here's what you can do to help the both of us right now. Get a list together of everyone in the game who has never played before. Then get a list of people who this is their second or third game.

I ask you this because there are multiple people here I am not very familiar with, including yourself. Getting their records straight would be beneficial.

To start, the people I know well (so you don't have to check up on them) are: Chezinu, BM, Pyrry, DTA, Xelin, Amberlight, chaoser, brownbear, KF91, infundibulum, iaaan, OPZ, tree hugger, roffles.

Anyone not on that list should have played a total of less than 3 games. Knowing which games they've played in is good because then we can compare their behavior to deduce what role they might be.

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Hey! My first PM ever besides role PMs! Youngminii and Pandain are always spamming in the previous game. They both acted pretty scummy last game, but both turned out town. I don't think that Divinek spammed last game in the beginning tho. But Divinek hates me probably because of the way I played last game, which I don't blame. I always play like that though... That leads to another question. Can you help me improve my play? I feel like I act a bit on the scummy side, even though I am town.

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Yo, we gotta get to talking eventually so better sooner than later. What do you think of the youngminii divinek Pandain trio? They have all been incredibly active and have provided enough spam to feed a family of four for a month.


And I already stated that bumalarge and I do not have PMs
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 13 2010 06:01 GMT
#1715
On August 13 2010 10:13 SouthRawrea wrote:
Post 4: Well I'm pressuring you now I guess haha.

Bumatlarge has stated that as well. Very revealing . To me I get a better vibe from you even knowing that this could be a mafia ploy with the PMs early on from either side or both.


lol. Isn't that what BC did with rastaban? In the last mafia game?

And this thread died off... I guess no more spamming from people really silences people. And I guess everything is in PM land.
Whaaaa?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 14 2010 01:06 GMT
#1739
On August 14 2010 09:01 Bill Murray wrote:
Since XeliN can't do it, I will:

YoungMinii has claimed vig, his target died, but he could fake that as mafia

Misder has not claimed anything at all to XeliN or anyone or hadn't when I got my list

There are WAY too many "townie" claims, and any of these is a good lynch cuz of it:
I will break them down into groups.

Likely town:
iNfuNdiBuLuM - not good for lynch imo. I trust him on this one, but I might be wrong, who knows.
pyrrhuloxia - based on meta i feel like i trust him as townie, but ~OpZ~ suspects him

Neutral/Null:

larjarse - he might be townie. he is a noob. i'm not sure if village idiot = scum here
Amber[LighT] - how can we read a townie who is inactive?

Mafia:

bumatlarge - unlikely townie imo. good lynch candidate. interested to see his flip.
misder - unclaimed, or claimed townie, idk. Likely red is Foolishness or bum is
Jayme - likely red imo
vayeshmoru - claimed townie, but maybe the GF.

does anyone know if vayeshmoru is confirmed? would like to hear about it.

couple that we with like 6 dead townies and Artanis/myself being confirmed townies/nosy neighbors and we have WAY too many "townies".


I claimed to Xelin as townie, but he PMed me first. I sent it late, so I'm not sure if you got it.
I'm starting to believe that larjarse is actually just a town idiot. He just has nothing to do. However, he still has not defended my post against him, so I don't think I'm going to change my vote. I think that bumalarge and youngminii are both good lynch targets; I just think that larjarse should defend himself before I change my vote. And it gives him something to do
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 15 2010 06:23 GMT
#1798
On August 15 2010 14:42 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 11:54 VayeshMoru wrote:
A little birdie told me Misder is a mafia goon. He is first lynch target.

As for second, I personally advocate infundibulum, but thats up to you guys.


I was pushing Misder yesterday, as I found that cute post of his where he said "foolishness would kill his team as mafia". lol

I'm all for his lynch Vayesh.


I was just giving the reason that Foolishness gave me.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 15 2010 06:46 GMT
#1799
On August 15 2010 11:54 VayeshMoru wrote:
A little birdie told me Misder is a mafia goon. He is first lynch target.

As for second, I personally advocate infundibulum, but thats up to you guys.


Alright, if someone checked me, and I came up as mafia, then I can only give one explaination; that there is another framer in the mafia. I think this makes sense, since from what I've heard, we have at least 3 trackers. I'm not sure how many of these are true, but, if flame lets the town have 3 trackers, then he may as well have given the mafia 2 framers. This is my only explanation, as I know that I am town, and I will defend myself against any more claims.
And btw, VM is not confirmed. He may as well be part of the mafia, and this may be part of his plan. I'm not sure, but remember, VM is actually BC and will trick you all, just like he tricked the town last game... We shouldn't be too quick to listen to him, at all.
Whaaaa?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 16 2010 08:24 GMT
#1907
I PMed XeliN and ~Opz~ my actual role, and I have decided with ~Opz~ to claim in the thread.

I was scared, I never want to blow my cover, but I am actually a detective. This is the first time I was a blue role, and I didn't want to confirm to Xelin, just in case he was mafia.

I dt checked Ace last night. I wanted to make sure that he was part of the town because I knew that Ace was a veteran player, and that he being in the mafia would be deadly. In my post in the thread, I said that the only concievable way that I was mafia was that there was a second framer. This is wrong. Someone may have tracked me to Ace. I told Xelin and ~Opz~ before I told the thread what I really am, because thats where mafia members are.
If you want me to confirm myself, I guess I will have to tell you all of my checks.

Night 1: I checked larjarse. This is before I wrote up an analysis on his posts. I found that he was mafia. After Night 2, to further my point without disclosing my role, I wrote up analysis on larjarse. This is before I sent in my night role. I was not sure whether or not a framer framed him though, so I wanted to see if anyone defended him. This didn't work, as no one actually followed through to pressure him, so if he really is mafia, he and his mafia goons didn't need to defend themselves.
Night 2: I checked hesmyrr. I found out he was not in the mafia. The problem with talking to him was... I wasn't sure whether or not his (Xelin) circle was legit or not, and I'm pretty sure that hesmyrr is part of that circle. I was afraid that there might be a leak in his group. So I waited. Now, I felt comfortable talking to Xelin, and telling Xelin my role, since the mafia hasn't hit any blue role except for DTA which I suspect to have been because he is a veteran at the game. I still haven't talked to hesmyrr on PM.

Hopefully, you can trust me now. I still suspect that you are suspicious of me, as you should be, but you should know that I am trying to help the town, not hurt it.
Whaaaa?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 18 2010 07:31 GMT
#2094
What gave me away, besides the tracker tracking me and BC checking me?
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