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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 18:23 GMT
#1108
honestly i kind of want to lynch BC for smurfing
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 20:42 GMT
#1140
On August 10 2010 05:35 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 05:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:31 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:27 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.

Oh well.


Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed.

Still...Again, what if the DT's didn't follow the plan?


Then a watcher would not have found the detective. A tracker in this case would be all that is needed to prove his legitimacy.

To prove Xelin's legitimacy? What if Xelin is Nosy Neighbor/Framer?


Does not matter. You fail to see the logic in this. A framer followed leads to a dead victim, not who he framed. The tracker would prove xelin town if xelin went out. No?

The Framer doesn't kill his victim. He just temporary makes him appear mafia to DT checks. So if Xelin went out, he is not confirmed if the framer is still alive.


Incorrect. Re read the tracker role.


The problem is that Chez said he Tracked you though>
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 21:10 GMT
#1151
On August 10 2010 05:43 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On August 10 2010 05:42 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:35 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:31 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:27 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.

Oh well.


Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed.

Still...Again, what if the DT's didn't follow the plan?


Then a watcher would not have found the detective. A tracker in this case would be all that is needed to prove his legitimacy.

To prove Xelin's legitimacy? What if Xelin is Nosy Neighbor/Framer?


Does not matter. You fail to see the logic in this. A framer followed leads to a dead victim, not who he framed. The tracker would prove xelin town if xelin went out. No?

The Framer doesn't kill his victim. He just temporary makes him appear mafia to DT checks. So if Xelin went out, he is not confirmed if the framer is still alive.


Incorrect. Re read the tracker role.


The problem is that Chez said he Tracked you though>


Why make the assumption of only one?


And why would Chez make the assumption that there is more than one Tracker and use his Night Action on you instead of following the plan?

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because he's Chez and he is inscrutable :p


Still, you do have a point - though it all depends on how Flamewheel decided to set up the game. There are 8 possible blue roles. Compare to BM's last game with the same # of players and same # of people on the mafia side. That game had 8 blues total.

Now this game is rather different - no suicide bomber; presence of Ninjas.

Now my guess is that there's probably 2-3 Ninjas, though i can't reasonably see more than 4 being reasonable.

To account for these sort of non-town players (since they effectively lower the number of town the mafia need to kill to win, unless I misread the rules) and the possibility of roleblocker, there are probably 1-2 extra blue roles. So my estimate for a total blue count would be 10 players. This allows for extras of 1-2 blue types or possibly more depending on whether all possible roles are present. I'd say we probably have two Boy Scouts, two Batmen, and then probably something like either two Conan's or two of Watcher or Tracker. With too many 'search' type roles the town becomes OP in the sort of circle getting set up right now and I'm sure FW had this in consideration without any suicide bomber in the game.

Anyway, right now based on Xelin's post it seems like the Watcher is MIA? So either the Watcher is not active (hopefully he comes back) or is not in the game. Which to me is rather more troubling than the possibility of 2 Trackers.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 21:12 GMT
#1152
should it be Ninjii?
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 21:28 GMT
#1156
On August 10 2010 06:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
As far as I can tell Xelin is in no way confirmed since we have no evidence he was either watched OR tracked, not to mention the plan was, I thought, to confirm the watcher and not Xelin.


Right, but he already claims to have a town circle and has mentioned a method of confirming himself. This could just be to convince people to claim to him (other people already did it so it must be safe!), or it could very well be true seeing as how people here have a history of being far too open with PM's. Either way if his self confirmation is a false then somebody in the circle will have to step up and call it out, right?

However if this self confirmation method hinges on the apparently absent watcher, then i'm not sure what happens.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 21:50 GMT
#1167
On August 10 2010 06:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
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On August 10 2010 06:41 Divinek wrote:
On August 10 2010 06:28 larjarse wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:36 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 09 2010 12:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Uh... mafia could not send in a kill and roleblock anyone?


Hmm.. I don't really see the mafia opted out of a roleblock. It's like a 1/3 chance of getting a blue, and with LSB's plan all over the front page last night, they definitely wouldn't pass they opportunity up..

Eh could happen if my list was right :/ how bout we lynch BM and sees about it? Yes, I think so.


This is ten pages back. I wanted to do this day 1. Why dont we just lynch BM and see what happens? All these vets are so caught up in the scheming that they are afraid to go against other vets.


what do you mean see what happens?

what do we gain from lynching him? prove that he played like an idiot like the start of every other game?

We figure out that Foolishness is GF because he vociferously defended BM despite his idiocy.


I defended BM, can I be the Principal too?
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 22:11 GMT
#1176
On August 10 2010 07:11 Bill Murray wrote:
from what ive seen i dont know if we even have a medic
we might just have bus drivers


10 bus drivers gogogo
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 07:49 GMT
#1335
On August 10 2010 16:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
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On August 10 2010 15:53 Divinek wrote:
On August 10 2010 15:36 Roffles wrote:
Just lynch em both.


i hope you get hit by a chop stick tonight, or a vigi bullet, or bb put a bomb on you or something :D

Fanning the flames for the sake of fanning the flames is not productive. I know BC does not agree with my at all on my suspect list; he is much more suspicious of those doing this sort of behavior. I hope I am right.


Divinek has been posting that way for almost the entire game. I'm starting to wonder when he will have something useful to say.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 20:34 GMT
#1393
Ugh i don't know. I'm trying to remain neutral from last game in my thinking about Youngminii but Foolishness has made a really convincing case. On the other hand BM outed a blue role and that's really fucked up. BM also says he's "saving the town in PM Land" but he's not saving the town in the thread...

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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 20:36 GMT
#1394
BTW If we can't trust you guys to not out blue roles in the thread I don't even want to know what's happening inside PM circles. Christ.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 20:46 GMT
#1396
Yeah it's happened before, i'm pretty sure.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 21:42 GMT
#1405
On August 11 2010 05:51 Bill Murray wrote:
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On August 11 2010 05:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
BTW If we can't trust you guys to not out blue roles in the thread I don't even want to know what's happening inside PM circles. Christ.


i'm not even in any circle, believe it or not. If BrownBear didn't want outed, he wouldn't have told his role to half the game thread. He was going to die if I didn't post that. He really needs medic protection, but don't forget that he could be scum fakeclaiming. Mad Hatter is a great scumclaim because it's unconfirmable until death.


Yeah that wasn't directed at just you
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 23:38 GMT
#1426
Eh i'll trust Xelin. Voting Pandain.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 23:51 GMT
#1435
wait so Pandain is lying and false claiming but somehow is a verifiable town? What the fuck is going on here?
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 10 2010 23:52 GMT
#1436
ebwop: i mean i'm trusting xelin here but this is beyond weird
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 11 2010 00:41 GMT
#1462
i thought you said you weren't in the blue circle, rastaban
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 11 2010 02:36 GMT
#1502
On August 11 2010 11:32 rastaban wrote:
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On August 11 2010 09:41 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
i thought you said you weren't in the blue circle, rastaban


If I was you can be sure this wouldn't have happened. I know who most of the circle is but I am just town looking in and messaging then when I can. After this maybe it is better that I wasn't part lol.


I was confused because a few pages back (60 something) you said you weren't involved in the circles and then you came out and said something to the effect of "why didn't you follow the points I PMd you"

but i guess that makes sense. and i'm not positive but i think there are at least 2 circles.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 11 2010 03:36 GMT
#1511
On August 11 2010 11:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Okay so how can we verify Xelin?


No idea, since Xelin being GF or Ninja both evades the simultaneous Tracker / Conan night 1 check (assuming he was framed).

However Xelin said a while back he had a method of self confirmation, which implies to me that he is a blue role that can use his ability to confirm himself to some other role acting on him at night like the watcher (if he exists) or tracker. This combined with the fact that nobody came out after this to contest Xelin's claim makes me pretty confident in his innocence. Besides the Day 2 actions to seem to me that they are the result of poor town planning rather than red interference (i mean why would a red orchestrate the lynch of a Ninja?)

as an aside i feel like we haven't heard from several players in quite a while, such as BC VayeshMoru, Chez, Foolishness, Jayme. TBH i didn't check and that's just from memory so if i missed one of those guys posts sorry. Also I think Chez might get a free pass since he's probably making another youtube video (LOL).
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 11 2010 03:37 GMT
#1512
oh and there's Chez right above me
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 11 2010 03:46 GMT
#1515
the Gods demand a youtube video sacrifice!
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