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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 10 2010 23:49 GMT
#447
FYI, Nytophobic is a fear of Darkness. Maybe Ace had to pick who to save during the day?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 11 2010 00:09 GMT
#450
Okay, I don't understand why the mafia would want to kill Ace.

It seems more likely that Ace was killed by a Vigi, and then the Mafia's kill got blocked
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 11 2010 01:33 GMT
#463
On August 11 2010 09:47 citi.zen wrote:
This makes no sense - ace was going to get lynched next anyway.

That's what I was thinking
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 11 2010 14:23 GMT
#485
On August 11 2010 23:22 citi.zen wrote:
OK... not talking will get us stuck. It's now 8v3, with a dead detective and medic. We need some activity here...

Maybe proding the lurkers? Because really, all our plans are now killed.
I'm even wondering if lynching BM is such a good idea anymore.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 11 2010 14:39 GMT
#489
My adjective used to be Ambitious, but now it is Vanilla
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 11 2010 22:44 GMT
#508
On August 12 2010 05:39 Bill Murray wrote:
If noone says anything about it, I'm going to hit LSB, as I found the argument between him and ace to now be townie on townie.


Ace who took us all by surprise when he flipped town. Maybe not you

What I don't get is why you're so bloodthirsty. It's the second day in the row where you are the first to vote for lynch.

I'm trying to see your motives, first day you send the town into disarray and jump onto the bandwagon on our DT.
Second day your attacking me, cause I was trying to get rid of the most likely mafia member at the moment.

I'll spend some time reviewing your posts.

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 01:56:38
August 12 2010 01:37 GMT
#517
I'll update Korynne's posts for reference

Adjective Claims:: Penalty Claim. Role
Ace: Nytophobic Must telegraph moves to the town before acting.
Pyrr: Cautious Detective: Can't get results back until later
Korynne: Dogmatic: Can't change actions.
zeks: Pitiful: If lynched, random person on the wagon gets permanent +1 voting power
LSB: Ambitious Vanilla: (partial penalty claim) After an event, his role changed
citi.zen: Suicidal
youngminii: Selfish
Scamp: Lazy
bumatlarge: Equivocating Treestump: Epic fail treestump. Basically becomes a mafia treestump if used
Bill Murray: Wrathful Vigilante: If he dies, a town power role dies.
Divinek: Unwary
Jayme: Goth
chaoser: Obvious If he votes majority, he cannot vote the next day.


Okay, I don't get Chaoser's penalty connection with his adjective.

@Bill Murry. Okay, I can confirm that there are NO more DTs. I don't know if it will help you

On August 12 2010 10:42 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, how exactly did LSB go from Ambitious to vanilla?

Lets just say after a certain event my abilities were diminished.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 01:58 GMT
#525
OOPS I pressed edit instead of quote @ hesmyrr, can you revert back my previous post?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 01:58 GMT
#526
I'll update Korynne's posts for reference

Adjective Claims:: Penalty Claim. Role
Ace: Nytophobic Must telegraph moves to the town before acting.
Pyrr: Cautious Detective: Can't get results back until later
Korynne: Dogmatic: Can't change actions.
zeks: Pitiful: If lynched, random person on the wagon gets permanent +1 voting power
LSB: Ambitious Vanilla: (partial penalty claim) After an event, his role changed
citi.zen: Suicidal
youngminii: Selfish
Scamp: Lazy
bumatlarge: Equivocating Treestump: Epic fail treestump. Basically becomes a mafia treestump if used
Bill Murray: Wrathful Vigilante: If he dies, a town power role dies.
Divinek: Unwary
Jayme: Goth
chaoser: Obvious If he votes majority, he cannot vote the next day.


Okay, I don't get Chaoser's penalty connection with his adjective.

@Bill Murry. Okay, I can confirm that there are NO more DTs. I don't know if it will help you

On August 12 2010 10:42 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, how exactly did LSB go from Ambitious to vanilla?

Lets just say after a certain event my abilities were diminished.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 02:01 GMT
#528
On August 12 2010 10:56 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2010 10:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
Should interfere and state that names of the role, in fact I fabricated I believe to be six ENTIRE role PM for fakeclaim I believe, was also given. There was reason why I said mass claim (penalty or role) was hugely detrimental (read "disaster") to town in a special rules; I took excessive measures to insure you guys could not scumhunt on the basis of claims. Couldn't interfere with disaster in making because proponent - Ace - was still alive and could have affected town's read on him.

Great. So a mass claim was designed to be detrimental, the DT and medic had pretty big penalties and, if we believe BM, the vigi can only hit people from the bandwagon. WTF is going on here... is there a DT+vigi role or some overpowered crap?

Wait... BM has 2 penalties?

o.o

BTW, we don't have a DT any more.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 02:05 GMT
#530
On August 12 2010 11:03 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2010 11:01 LSB wrote:
On August 12 2010 10:56 citi.zen wrote:
On August 12 2010 10:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
Should interfere and state that names of the role, in fact I fabricated I believe to be six ENTIRE role PM for fakeclaim I believe, was also given. There was reason why I said mass claim (penalty or role) was hugely detrimental (read "disaster") to town in a special rules; I took excessive measures to insure you guys could not scumhunt on the basis of claims. Couldn't interfere with disaster in making because proponent - Ace - was still alive and could have affected town's read on him.

Great. So a mass claim was designed to be detrimental, the DT and medic had pretty big penalties and, if we believe BM, the vigi can only hit people from the bandwagon. WTF is going on here... is there a DT+vigi role or some overpowered crap?

Wait... BM has 2 penalties?

o.o

BTW, we don't have a DT any more.

Good question about BM!

How do you know about DTs?

My role had changes when all the DTs in the town were killed
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 02:05 GMT
#532
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 02:25 GMT
#534
On August 12 2010 11:01 Hesmyrr wrote:
I did put some counter-measures to improve success of town when I changed the setup from 17 player to 13 player, yes, so at the START of the game I believe setup to be not too imbalanced. WIll reveal my thought process post-game.

tl;dr -> My setup was designed to make scum analysis solely based on via claims crap (special rule 3). I felt this interruption was necessary because it seemed my initial message wasn't clear enough for anyone.

[examples]
* LSB is mafia because "obvious" seem too obvious. (meaningless)
* LSB is town because his claim seems too risky. (meaningless)


A few things to note: Mafia has incentive to make claims, claims make them look good, and it's not like it's bad for them.

Mafia knows that mass claiming is detrimental (this is because Hesmyrr probably sent them a second part of a PM giving them fake claims).
This means that: Mafia knows they can get away with fake penalties

Lastly, Hesmyrr expects there to be some way we utilize our roles without mass claims.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 13:11 GMT
#548
On August 12 2010 12:05 Scamp wrote:
Whoever makes the next list please add that I have a limited number of votes.

This is the third time that I've had to say it.

Whoops sorry, I thought you were korynne (The hydras threw me off)

I added Divinek.


Adjective Claims:: Penalty Claim.
Ace: Nytophobic Must telegraph moves to the town before acting.
Pyrr: Cautious Detective: Can't get results back until later
Korynne: Dogmatic: Can't change actions.
zeks: Pitiful: If lynched, random person on the wagon gets permanent +1 voting power
LSB: Ambitious Vanilla: (partial penalty claim) After an event, his role changed
citi.zen: Suicidal
youngminii: Selfish
Scamp: Lazy: Limited amount of votes
bumatlarge: Equivocating Treestump: Epic fail treestump. Basically becomes a mafia treestump if used
Bill Murray: Wrathful Vigilante: If he dies, a town power role dies.
Divinek: Unwary: If a mafia is lynched it negatively impacts on him for the following night
Jayme: Goth
chaoser: Obvious If he votes majority, he cannot vote the next day.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 14:25 GMT
#550
On August 12 2010 23:09 Korynne wrote:
LSB, you should vote for youngminii unless you have great reason not to, we want to make sure BM isn't lynched so he can have the chance to vigi someone if he is not mafia.

The question is who BM will hit.
He's already stated he's going to hit me.

Although I can see why youngminii can be a threat, a plan for today would be a vote for No Lynch, and have BM kill youngminii
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 14:39 GMT
#552
youngminii is on the bandwagon right now
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 17:47 GMT
#557
##vote No Lynch
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 23:22 GMT
#567
On August 13 2010 07:45 zeks wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Chaoser


The little resistance from the youngminii stacking worries me

Youngminii said he couldn't devote that much time in the other game.

Youngminii would be modkilled anyways, for not voting.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 23:35 GMT
#569
Hesmyrr makes his posts on 08:46. That would be in less than 10 minutes I believe
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 12 2010 23:39 GMT
#571
On August 13 2010 08:36 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 08:22 LSB wrote:
On August 13 2010 07:45 zeks wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Chaoser


The little resistance from the youngminii stacking worries me

Youngminii said he couldn't devote that much time in the other game.

Youngminii would be modkilled anyways, for not voting.



hi just got back from work before the deadline :D crazy driving yay

also he's not going to get mod killed

Bill Murray (1)
youngminii

from the vote totals on page 1, and those are quite up to date.

And uh i like my vote where it is based on the few things that have been said. No lynch would be silly.

I'd give Youngminii the benefit of the doubt because he said he could not be as active.

The 'perfect plan' would be for BM to kill Youngminii tonight, but obviously it won't be happening.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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