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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 20:59 GMT
#1956
On July 25 2010 05:55 youngminii wrote:
No, but this is what your play suggests. There is a difference between saying something explicitly and meaning something implicitly.


I wasn't even thinking about my being innocent but sure, spin it however you want. If after he had died, I said, haa, look i'm innocent now right? then you'd have a case against me. Right now you're just pulling shit out of your ass. lots of <3 for you though. XOXO
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 21:01 GMT
#1958
On July 25 2010 06:00 SouthRawrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:35 SiNiquity wrote:
I would very much like to see your backyard

Ok just five minutes, need enough battery power on my camera and I'll PM you with it.


can i see it too?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 21:20 GMT
#1966
You know, I was thinking. The worst case scenario that could happen is SouthRawrea is Bomber, me and him die. Citi.zen is suicide bomber, has blues to hit, kills a bunch. I'm still ready to die with southrawrea, just saying...
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 21:34 GMT
#1972
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Why would we suspect citi.zen and lynch him if the best they could do is a weak counter claim like we're getting now? Like I said previously:

You know, I was thinking. The worst case scenario that could happen is SouthRawrea is Bomber, me and him die. Citi.zen is suicide bomber, has blues to hit, kills a bunch. I'm still ready to die with southrawrea, just saying...


that's some heavy shit right there
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 21:52 GMT
#1983
On July 25 2010 06:50 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



lol wut?

How on earth do you figure that? The past three days must have been hilarious for them to watch. We have more chickens with their heads cut off and we're trying to lynch them all.

I'm trying to figure out the best possible way to go about this. Lynching citizen vs. SR seems to be a double-edged sword. One of them is the hatter, the other is a mafia. If we hit a mafia then we have gotten that much closer to winning, but what do we gain? A guaranteed hatter that we will need to baby for the rest of the game...

I'm trying to think of the future here. If Citizen is the hatter then he is probably going to be a (juicy) suicide target. That means that his two bombs (He threw two right?) will go off. He hasn't said who he has them on, so we as a town can't tell him where they should move.

If SR is the hatter then we only have to worry about moving one bomb to a "mafia." This actually (sorta) secures SR and the mafia players safety as it would require them to use a night kill or suicide bomb, which there is less incentive imo.

Assuming SR is legit I'll support him. There's less risk in keeping him alive, assuming citi.zen laid two bombs, and assuming he's the hatter.

And if the person we lynch is the hatter the next person is on the stands tomorrow anyway.

vote: citi.zen
vote: double lynch


It won't matter if the next person is on the stands if one of them is suicide bomber, they'd just blow up tonight and laugh at us.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 21:53 GMT
#1984
On July 25 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)

@Bolded section. How would that work? Day 2 there were 3 hits.


If they are both red, they made up the hit
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 22:28 GMT
#2002
On July 23 2010 16:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Vote Count:

Show nested quote +
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] zeks (pandain)


Abstain:
Show nested quote +
BrownBear
Siniquity
Pyrrhuloxia


Double Lynch:
Show nested quote +
Siniquity
BrownBear
Pyrrhuloxia


Starting from here since people voted before he posted Night post, and I didn't know if he counted them or not.

+ Show Spoiler +
Protactinium abstains at 16:38
~OpZ~ abstains at 20:00
zeks abstains at 20:13
rastaban abstains at 23:11
Amber abstains at 2:12


Abstains for earlier

bumatlarge votes southrawrea at 3:00
youngminii votes chaoser at 7:24

Tricode abstains at 11:04
d3_crescentia abstains at 12:27

bumatlarge unvotes southrawrea, votes tree.hugger at 12:29
tree.hugger votes Xelin at 12:33
d3_crescentia votes ~opz~ at 12:36
zeks votes Xelin at 12:40
LaXerCannon votes protractium at 12:54
BC votes Southrawrea at 13:37
citi.zen votes BC at 14:45
Tricode votes youngminii at 15:42
BB votes Southrawrea at 15:43
Tricode unvotes youngminii, votes Southrawrea at 15:55
Divinek votes Southrawrea at 15:59
lakrismamma votes abstain at 20:19
lakrismamma votes BC at 22:28
Xelin votes Southrawrea at 22:52
chaoser votes Southrawrea at 00:41
Subversion abstains at 2:12
bumatlarge unvotes tree.hugger, votes BC at 3:44

SouthRawrea votes Citizen at 3:52

at this point the votes look like this

6] SouthRawrea (BloodyC0bbler, BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, Chaoser)
2] XeliN (tree.hugger, zeks)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] zeks (pandain)
1] chaoser (youngminii)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] BloodyC0bbler (citi.zen, bumatlarge)
1] youngminii (tricode)
1] citi.zen (SouthRawrea)

citi.zen unvotes BC, votes SouthRawrea at 4:09
bumatlarge unvotes BC, votes Southrawrea at 4:16
youngminii unvote chaoser, votes Southrawrea at 5:31
tree.hugger unvotes Xelin, votes citizen at 5:34
zeks votes Southrawrea at 6:17
Siniquity votes citi.zen at 6:46
amber[light] for citi.zen at 6:50
BC, unvotes southrawrea, votes citi.zen at 6:56
Pandain unvotes zeks, votes Citi.zen at 7:02
LaKrismamma unvotes SouthRawrea, votes Southrawrea at 7:18 (sorry I bolded, this is just funny)

Final vote numbers:

8] SouthRawrea (BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, citi.zen, bumatlarge, youngminii, zeks)
6] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, Siniquity, amber[light], BC, Pandain)
1] XeliN (zeks)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] youngminii (tricode)

##unvote
##abstain for now
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 22:33 GMT
#2009
On July 25 2010 06:20 chaoser wrote:
You know, I was thinking. The worst case scenario that could happen is SouthRawrea is Bomber, me and him die. Citi.zen is suicide bomber, has blues to hit, kills a bunch. I'm still ready to die with southrawrea, just saying...


I would just like to quote this again for people who are like, if south flips MH, we can just kill citi.zen the next day. If he's suicide bomber, it doesn't matter
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 22:44 GMT
#2020
Southrawrea, I want you to look me in the eye (figuratively) and tell me you are not mafia.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 22:46 GMT
#2023
On July 25 2010 07:44 youngminii wrote:
Yes, I do believe chaoser is red. Yes, this is a great opportunity to get two scum kills. However I have logical reasoning. Your reasoning is flawed at best and you're continually circumventing my arguments and somehow getting away with it. I don't care if you're red or green or blue at the moment, all I know is that we have a golden opportunity at lynching two reds right now and you're standing in the way.


How do we get two red kills if SR is lynched? He's green, I'm "red" as you say, I die, 1 red dead. He's red, I don't die, 1 red dead.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 22:47 GMT
#2026
On July 25 2010 07:47 lakrismamma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 07:28 chaoser wrote:
[
LaKrismamma unvotes SouthRawrea, votes Southrawrea at 7:18 (sorry I bolded, this is just funny)


I didn't did I?? =)


yeah you did
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 22:56:29
July 24 2010 22:53 GMT
#2042
8] SouthRawrea (BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, citi.zen, bumatlarge, youngminii, zeks)
6] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, Siniquity, amber[light], BC, Pandain)
1] XeliN (zeks) EDITED OUT
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] youngminii (tricode)
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 22:55 GMT
#2045
tree.hugger sold me

##vote citi.zen
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 22:57 GMT
#2050
8*] SouthRawrea (BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, citi.zen, bumatlarge, youngminii, zeks)
8] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, Siniquity, amber[light], BC, Pandain, Chaoser, Pyrr)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] youngminii (tricode)
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:00 GMT
#2054
On July 25 2010 07:57 bumatlarge wrote:
I still find it extremely silly for citizen to be red as he wouldnt benefit much from just killing a KP role and he would die eventually.


It's not silly if he is Suicide Bomber and in the rush of his claim, blues claimed to him. Then when the real one comes forward, hopefully the real one gets lynched, bombs go off, lots of people die. Now he gets to laugh and blow himself up with a few blues.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:13 GMT
#2081
9] SouthRawrea (BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, citi.zen, bumatlarge, youngminii, zeks, Siniquity)
7] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, amber[light], BC, Pandain, Chaoser, Pyrr)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] youngminii (tricode)
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:15 GMT
#2085
On July 25 2010 08:12 rastaban wrote:
Guys I have been staying quiet but I can’t anymore. I was hoping citi.zen would prove his claim but he hasn’t and I am worried about what his plan is. He has already gotten the DT claims. Before the real and asked for us to reveal the DTs. I haven’t heard from him since the counter claim.
From Citi.zen:

+ Show Spoiler +

A third DT claim did show up. Which is good - more people are giving themselves up.

I will need the name of your Dt when you are satisfied there is no counter claim against me. My DT can then check one of the two and find the real one as well as the red.




-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Wow, I did't expect that much to go down last night.

I think you might have just given us the break town needed to turn this around. I believe at this point if someone was going to claim they would have. The DT felt the same way so I was asked to go ahead and move forward with contacting you.

Let me know what we should do next.


Thanks,


He hasn't mentioned this in the thread, I hate putting myself out there, but if he is playing us I am sure another mouth can confirm.


quoting to get this to top of page
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:19 GMT
#2092
On July 25 2010 08:17 BrownBear wrote:
I am so fucking confused right now. What I see it as:

rastaban has a DT
citi.zen has a DT
youngminii has a DT

Could 2 of these be the same DT? Or have we caught a falseclaimer/the GF?


It means mafia's fucking up
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:22 GMT
#2099
On July 25 2010 08:20 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:17 BrownBear wrote:
I am so fucking confused right now. What I see it as:

rastaban has a DT
citi.zen has a DT
youngminii has a DT

Could 2 of these be the same DT? Or have we caught a falseclaimer/the GF?


A more puzzling thing is this.

Two mouths have claimed to citizen, and we have someone counter claiming? The pm rasta showed implies a third claimant (as i doubt citizen would count himself as one) Seems really odd to me.

He's counting his DT as one. Look at the next paragraph, he says "we'll check one of the two". You're slipping up more and more BC.


If when citi.zen found out there were multiple claims for DT, he would have told town if he was townie. But he didn't. That's weird
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:33 GMT
#2114
guys, please respond to the VERY scummy thing that he did which is keep the triple claim for DT from town. That's VERY WEIRD.
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