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Too... much... flaming...
Seriously guys, this isn't helping us scumhunt.
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On July 23 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:
Too... much... flaming...
Seriously guys, this isn't helping us scumhunt.
neither are you
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On July 23 2010 13:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:
Too... much... flaming...
Seriously guys, this isn't helping us scumhunt. neither are you
Because every time I try to read through the thread and find something, I have to wade through tons of flamewar and bullshit, and it gets demoralizing. Also, I'm waiting for daypost. Relax.
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Just FYI bill murray is taking so long because he's playing NFL Blitz UMS map in brood war.
Lynch BM Day 3 for making us wait? i think so
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On July 23 2010 13:43 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:32 youngminii wrote:On July 23 2010 13:30 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 23 2010 13:27 youngminii wrote:On July 23 2010 13:23 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 23 2010 13:09 youngminii wrote:
How am I dodging the question? Do I seriously have to quote it again? The answer's right there.
What am I refusing to share? Obviously I'm going to be hostile when my scum suspects are ganging up on me, no shit. Why don't you stop dodging MY question and answer how am I dodging the question? How am I refusing to share information? How am I being uncooperative? Look, this is every post you made between the Tree Hugger PM post and the post where you answered me saying you had "already answered the question: + Show Spoiler [posts] +On July 22 2010 14:09 youngminii wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot the most important part: the question. Pretty much, why are you doing this via PM when you can just do it publicly in the thread? Is it because you're avoiding any counter arguments so that your PM recipients will have an easier time believing/trusting you or is it something else? On July 22 2010 14:12 youngminii wrote:
Ya I'd have asked for protection too but that's literally giving suicide bomber free medic kills. On July 22 2010 14:31 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 14:27 Roffles wrote:On July 22 2010 14:05 youngminii wrote:
You know, I have a question and I think this should be public information. My sources tell me that tree.hugger has been spreading misinformation to at least 3 different people via PM and instructing them to vote for certain people. However, I do not believe he's scum.
Tree.hugger, stop PMing others and post it here for everyone to see. Don't just say 'vote for this person' and 'vote for that person', tell them who you're suspicious of and ask them who they're suspicious of. Do not go around giving orders. It also seems as if you're targeting newer players (although I'm not sure about this). Yawn, you can count me in on that as well. I however don't pay much attention to PMs and I kinda just said screw it to what he wanted me to do. I don't understand why he's doing that. I just, I don't even... On July 22 2010 14:54 youngminii wrote:
I dunno I feel as if I'll get NK'd tonight. My spidey senses are tingling. On July 22 2010 14:58 youngminii wrote:
Don't want to bring back the useless debate, ignoring your post. On July 22 2010 15:25 youngminii wrote: I hope you enjoy reading. On July 23 2010 09:01 youngminii wrote:
Don't edit at all in any situation for any reason without BM's approval. On July 23 2010 10:37 youngminii wrote:
He didn't tell anyone different things if my assumptions are correct. He said something like "we lynch subversion and we've got youngminii, we lynch DTA and we've got nothing"
Which is such a fucking stupid argument, might I add, and spreading this misinformation via PMs being a horrible way to play. Like I said, the answer wasn't in there even though you said it was. If you'll notice this game I have never once said I thought you were red. I have been asking you questions, because you've been making some out of the ordinary posts. Your reactions to these questions have generally been hostile, uncooperative (see: the reply I am quoting) and overall it seems like you think I don't like you or something. Which personally, I don't understand. I'm a pretty friendly guy. But when my questions are met with you saying things like "this is the scummiest post ever," or "you are fucking bad," - which are things you have actually typed in this thread, paraphrased - is it any wonder why I don't think you're meeting me on equal grounds here? Now, maybe I really am a fucking idiot, but that explanation you gave previously didn't make any sense to me and I and probably several others would like it if you could just be clear about things instead of saying "I'm not dodging the question" while continuing to dodge the question! Look, if you really are town, your abrasive reactions aren't helping you at all and will help you get lynched more than anything I could ever muster. And there really hasn't been that much pressure on you at all this game, so I'd hate to see you react under actual intense scrutiny. On July 23 2010 12:05 youngminii wrote:On July 23 2010 07:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
ebwop: i mean, if i knew as much as this as you did, i'd be strongly suspecting tree.hugger of being mafia right now. but you don't suspect him. why? There's no reason for scum to pin me along with Subversion. If Subversion is scum, then tree.hugger wouldn't be lynching him (unless it's epically bad bussing). If Subversion's isn't scum, then what's the point of 'pinning' me to Subversion? It makes no logical sense. Now I'm just getting annoyed because you seem to be fucking blind. I've said this three times already. Go read the mafia manifesto or something. Youngminii post response generator v 0.89bOutput: you are the scummiest bad player ever, can you even read? Your play is so awful I don't understand? Accept output [y/n] I would like to ask you the same question. Please read my post at least 3 times carefully and then wisely respond. i'm still working out the bugs in the code
Okay since apparently I'm being too angry here, I'll stop saying read my posts and I'll explain it for you.
The reason I don't believe tree.hugger is scum is because very early in the game I received a PM explaining what tree.hugger has been saying to people.
He said (as you should already know) that if subversion is scum, then I am scum too. He also that that if DTA is scum, then I'm still unknown.
Now the reason I don't think tree.hugger is scum (I simply think he's a bad town) is because of the following scenarios.
1) Tree.hugger and subversion are both scum
In this case, tree.hugger would be doing a very bad form of bussing as he's telling everyone (needlessly) to lynch subversion. Then he would be able to get a lynch off me since he's telling everyone that I'm connected to subversion (I don't even know how that works) but no scum is stupid enough to do this form of play.
2) Tree.hugger is scum and subversion is town
Well, tree.hugger COULD just be spreading this information to lynch subversion. But then that removes the possibility of being able to lynch me (in the near future). There's no reason for scum to needlessly link me to subversion if subversion is town, because that rules out the theory of me being scum too.
3) Tree.hugger is town and subversion is scum/town
Tree.hugger is bad town spreading information via PM by fortune of bad play. Most likely.
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On July 23 2010 13:47 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 23 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:
Too... much... flaming...
Seriously guys, this isn't helping us scumhunt. neither are you Because every time I try to read through the thread and find something, I have to wade through tons of flamewar and bullshit, and it gets demoralizing. Also, I'm waiting for daypost. Relax.
sorry
i'm a little drunk right now
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Now that things have settled, I think now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't voted to double lynch to do so now. I really feel like we should've had it for this day, but I guess we'll have to wait.
Opinions? Anyone see why we SHOULDN'T double lynch? If not, I urge all of you to vote so now.
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On July 23 2010 13:51 Pandain wrote:
Now that things have settled, I think now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't voted to double lynch to do so now. I really feel like we should've had it for this day, but I guess we'll have to wait.
Opinions? Anyone see why we SHOULDN'T double lynch? If not, I urge all of you to vote so now.
can't vote right now btw, gotta wait till day
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On July 23 2010 13:49 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:47 BrownBear wrote:On July 23 2010 13:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 23 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:
Too... much... flaming...
Seriously guys, this isn't helping us scumhunt. neither are you Because every time I try to read through the thread and find something, I have to wade through tons of flamewar and bullshit, and it gets demoralizing. Also, I'm waiting for daypost. Relax. sorry i'm a little drunk right now
s'all good bro
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On July 23 2010 13:52 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:51 Pandain wrote:
Now that things have settled, I think now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't voted to double lynch to do so now. I really feel like we should've had it for this day, but I guess we'll have to wait.
Opinions? Anyone see why we SHOULDN'T double lynch? If not, I urge all of you to vote so now. can't vote right now btw, gotta wait till day
Thought it was day? It's past 12 EST. Or does he have to make the night post for it to be day?
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It was Day almost an hour ago, BM's just slow.
## Vote Double Lynch
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I am not a fan of subversion..still. I think he has terrible foot in mouth syndrome and has what amounts to a legion of followers ready to defend him anytime a serious accusation comes down.
subversion should have been lynched, would have told us a lot.
I'm looking at phyrr now. He's jerked around an entire town before as mafia and nobody ever really challenged it. I don't think it's the case this time but it should be looked at.
Further the town needs to stop with the bandwagons. Any bandwagon after day 1 is needlessly destructive...stop doing it.
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i think night actions have to be in by 12 EST? but it's not officially day till he posts and says in bold underline IT IS NOW DAY
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Officially, if we go by the clock, it's day now. I still want to wait for some kind of confirmation from him before really doing anything serious.
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ebwop: by him I meant Bill Murray
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Officially, if we go by the clock we're already almost four hours late.
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On July 23 2010 13:51 Pandain wrote:
Now that things have settled, I think now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't voted to double lynch to do so now. I really feel like we should've had it for this day, but I guess we'll have to wait.
Opinions? Anyone see why we SHOULDN'T double lynch? If not, I urge all of you to vote so now.
did you even explain why we should
is it really so useful to blast 2 people even though we have no reason to truly believe two people to be red enough to use a double lynch?
or are you just going on the hunch that we will find out enough today, either that seem pretty interesting
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On July 23 2010 13:49 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:43 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 23 2010 13:32 youngminii wrote:On July 23 2010 13:30 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 23 2010 13:27 youngminii wrote:On July 23 2010 13:23 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 23 2010 13:09 youngminii wrote:
How am I dodging the question? Do I seriously have to quote it again? The answer's right there.
What am I refusing to share? Obviously I'm going to be hostile when my scum suspects are ganging up on me, no shit. Why don't you stop dodging MY question and answer how am I dodging the question? How am I refusing to share information? How am I being uncooperative? Look, this is every post you made between the Tree Hugger PM post and the post where you answered me saying you had "already answered the question: + Show Spoiler [posts] +On July 22 2010 14:09 youngminii wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot the most important part: the question. Pretty much, why are you doing this via PM when you can just do it publicly in the thread? Is it because you're avoiding any counter arguments so that your PM recipients will have an easier time believing/trusting you or is it something else? On July 22 2010 14:12 youngminii wrote:
Ya I'd have asked for protection too but that's literally giving suicide bomber free medic kills. On July 22 2010 14:31 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 14:27 Roffles wrote:On July 22 2010 14:05 youngminii wrote:
You know, I have a question and I think this should be public information. My sources tell me that tree.hugger has been spreading misinformation to at least 3 different people via PM and instructing them to vote for certain people. However, I do not believe he's scum.
Tree.hugger, stop PMing others and post it here for everyone to see. Don't just say 'vote for this person' and 'vote for that person', tell them who you're suspicious of and ask them who they're suspicious of. Do not go around giving orders. It also seems as if you're targeting newer players (although I'm not sure about this). Yawn, you can count me in on that as well. I however don't pay much attention to PMs and I kinda just said screw it to what he wanted me to do. I don't understand why he's doing that. I just, I don't even... On July 22 2010 14:54 youngminii wrote:
I dunno I feel as if I'll get NK'd tonight. My spidey senses are tingling. On July 22 2010 14:58 youngminii wrote:
Don't want to bring back the useless debate, ignoring your post. On July 22 2010 15:25 youngminii wrote: I hope you enjoy reading. On July 23 2010 09:01 youngminii wrote:
Don't edit at all in any situation for any reason without BM's approval. On July 23 2010 10:37 youngminii wrote:
He didn't tell anyone different things if my assumptions are correct. He said something like "we lynch subversion and we've got youngminii, we lynch DTA and we've got nothing"
Which is such a fucking stupid argument, might I add, and spreading this misinformation via PMs being a horrible way to play. Like I said, the answer wasn't in there even though you said it was. If you'll notice this game I have never once said I thought you were red. I have been asking you questions, because you've been making some out of the ordinary posts. Your reactions to these questions have generally been hostile, uncooperative (see: the reply I am quoting) and overall it seems like you think I don't like you or something. Which personally, I don't understand. I'm a pretty friendly guy. But when my questions are met with you saying things like "this is the scummiest post ever," or "you are fucking bad," - which are things you have actually typed in this thread, paraphrased - is it any wonder why I don't think you're meeting me on equal grounds here? Now, maybe I really am a fucking idiot, but that explanation you gave previously didn't make any sense to me and I and probably several others would like it if you could just be clear about things instead of saying "I'm not dodging the question" while continuing to dodge the question! Look, if you really are town, your abrasive reactions aren't helping you at all and will help you get lynched more than anything I could ever muster. And there really hasn't been that much pressure on you at all this game, so I'd hate to see you react under actual intense scrutiny. On July 23 2010 12:05 youngminii wrote:On July 23 2010 07:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
ebwop: i mean, if i knew as much as this as you did, i'd be strongly suspecting tree.hugger of being mafia right now. but you don't suspect him. why? There's no reason for scum to pin me along with Subversion. If Subversion is scum, then tree.hugger wouldn't be lynching him (unless it's epically bad bussing). If Subversion's isn't scum, then what's the point of 'pinning' me to Subversion? It makes no logical sense. Now I'm just getting annoyed because you seem to be fucking blind. I've said this three times already. Go read the mafia manifesto or something. Youngminii post response generator v 0.89bOutput: you are the scummiest bad player ever, can you even read? Your play is so awful I don't understand? Accept output [y/n] I would like to ask you the same question. Please read my post at least 3 times carefully and then wisely respond. i'm still working out the bugs in the code Okay since apparently I'm being too angry here, I'll stop saying read my posts and I'll explain it for you. The reason I don't believe tree.hugger is scum is because very early in the game I received a PM explaining what tree.hugger has been saying to people. He said (as you should already know) that if subversion is scum, then I am scum too. He also that that if DTA is scum, then I'm still unknown. Now the reason I don't think tree.hugger is scum (I simply think he's a bad town) is because of the following scenarios. 1) Tree.hugger and subversion are both scum In this case, tree.hugger would be doing a very bad form of bussing as he's telling everyone (needlessly) to lynch subversion. Then he would be able to get a lynch off me since he's telling everyone that I'm connected to subversion (I don't even know how that works) but no scum is stupid enough to do this form of play. 2) Tree.hugger is scum and subversion is town Well, tree.hugger COULD just be spreading this information to lynch subversion. But then that removes the possibility of being able to lynch me (in the near future). There's no reason for scum to needlessly link me to subversion if subversion is town, because that rules out the theory of me being scum too. 3) Tree.hugger is town and subversion is scum/town Tree.hugger is bad town spreading information via PM by fortune of bad play. Most likely.
Okay, thanks. i see what you're getting at now. I wish you had just posted something like this in the first place
for number one, the connection between you and subversion that tree hugger has been talking about in the thread has to do with the day one lynch, i'm pretty sure.
basically, subversion voted for hyperbola instead of you. he was the deciding vote and it resulted in a townie getting lynched. basically if subversion was to flip red to a dt check or death, it would look really bad for you, and the same for him if you flipped red.
Of course it seems to me that tree huggers arguments hinge on the assumption that either you or subversion are red. If both of you are green then the connection is null.
so that raises the question of whether or not tree hugger is a detective, and checked subversion night 1, and has been trying to convince people to vote for him.
One thing you do have to admit about the Day 2 vote is that the entire push on chaoser came at the perfect time to push Subversion away from the lead. If chaoser is town side, then this can easily be seen as a mafia push to make the top 2 candidates both townies so it wouldn't matter who won. I know you think chaoser is red, but the timing of it is very convenient.
Subversion has also been using the newbie excuse, but the fact is he has been the center of the critical actions for Days 1 and 2, which means I don't want to waive all reasoning in light of the "he's just new" excuse.
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On July 23 2010 13:58 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:51 Pandain wrote:
Now that things have settled, I think now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't voted to double lynch to do so now. I really feel like we should've had it for this day, but I guess we'll have to wait.
Opinions? Anyone see why we SHOULDN'T double lynch? If not, I urge all of you to vote so now. did you even explain why we should is it really so useful to blast 2 people even though we have no reason to truly believe two people to be red enough to use a double lynch? or are you just going on the hunch that we will find out enough today, either that seem pretty interesting
Well won't it activate after THIS day. So we'll have a night, and two days (including this) to make up our mind. I think we'll have plenty of information. Besides, we just mislynched for a second time in a row. If the mafia hits go well for them and they end up hitting blues, we need to have a chance to comeback.
No, we do not know enough to double lynch someone as of now. But I feel we will by the time double lynch is usable.
Any other opinions?
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