TL Mafia XXVIII - Page 6

On July 26 2010 15:54 Protactinium wrote:

I have just caught up on thread.

And it's a shitstorm.

Ignore what I said about doing analysis. This is much bigger.

[b]Everybody, if you have been wondering who the mystery man in Pandain's post (Mr. ???) is, wonder no more. It is I.

And now, I can say that Pandain has been lying to me.


With a full game's worth of PMs from both Pandain and Subversion, I can show you that this "secret experiment" was not anything planned between the three of us. In fact, Pandain went at it on his own, and did not consult Subversion or myself.

You may ask, how am I confirmed? I started PMing Subversion sometime after the first night, when I realized he had soft claimed blue in thread. Through PMs, he told me he was a Detective, and that his first check had been youngminii but he was suspicious that youngminii was Godfather. Disregarding that, I asked him to check me Night 2 so that we could have a fully confirmed circle (and as a test to see if he would get my role), but after a while he decided to check Amber[LighT] instead, as already said earlier in the thread.

Regarding Pandain, and how he comes into this: during Day 2, Subversion was on the line to be lynched, and I pulled Pandain off of him because I still believed that Subversion was Detective. Yes, it is a risk, but the plan was calculated. If Subversion had died during Night 2, then Pandain would have been outed as Mafia infiltration. Sacrificing one Detective for Mafia is always worth it, especially in this format, and that was my failsafe.

However, Subversion lived through the night, so I began to think Pandain was more legitimate. After all, the rules of the game (even stickied in the Mafia threads) say to kill blues as you find them if you are Mafia, and Subversion was still alive. However, at this point Subversion was too afraid still to tell youngminii AND Amber[LighT], since he feared both of them could be the Godfather. Not wanting him to out himself too early, I thought it would be best for him, myself, and Pandain to stay quiet, and to wait out the day.

Then citi.zen's plan came in, and this is where things started going awry.
I do not have much time per day to dedicate to Mafia, especially with guests this weekend, and so I returned to my computer with a message from Pandain saying that he had told youngminii that he was Detective and that youngminii would be the mouth. Apparently, he had not consulted Subversion about this and when I talked to Subversion later that day he was very distressed and expressed his doubts. I, too, secretly began to have them, but they were still unfounded: Pandain seems to post impulsively, so I chalked his latest scheme up to that.

citi.zen saw through this, of course, and then the thread went to shit with massive claims. Ah, before I forget, Pandain also wanted me to help him call for a mass roleclaim to Tricode, who wouldn't have been confirmed at that point due to conflicting calls over town kill power roles.

And so we have it here. Mafia killed Subversion, and I had a PM from Pandain telling me that the "other Detective" was going to check Subversion tonight, but to "keep Subversion from thinking that, and to just play it cool and to have him check Misder/lakrismamma.

And here we are now.

Town, I am going to bed soon, but if you want a roster of PMs, just call for them. I can provide them with rapidity that begets falseness, and I invite you to scrutinize them all.

What am I saying with this post? Pandain is Mafia? No, simply that he lied, and "took initiative" and tried to implement his circle. It still is awfully suspicious the way things turned out, but one thing's for sure: if we're lynching all liars, Pandain has some stuff to explain.