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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 11:31 youngminii wrote: Lol I'll actually be impressed if(when) you flip red. Very sneaky play, I still want to know how you figured out Subversion was DT. 2 people in our circle. Subversion made a direct claim to him, we and him had been chatting, he told me. I confront Subversion. | ||
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Pandain
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##SouthRarwarer Zeks I'm hoping you have some outside information. Normally wouldn't do this but I'm trusting you. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 12:29 bumatlarge wrote: Oh also how exactly did scum know sub was a DT? Did you guys spread the PM circle a little too far? :/ Nah, it was just me and another guy. And I found out from him so..... We were going to tell youngmini if subversion didn't die during the night, however this doesn't count since he revealed it anyway Thinkin along with my defense (I think I gave a lil' too much info) and just Subversion in general he was a good mob hit. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 12:58 Divinek wrote: wait so sorry if i didnt catch it if you explained it before but why did the other guy tell you subversion was dt in the first place if he didnt know you were not red? and why were you going to tell young if you didnt know he was not red? Other guy told me cause we trusted each other. We were cautious of telling young, since he has/had been acting weird. We were afraid he might be GF faking as townie. So I came up with an idea. I would pretend to be dt, fake claim to youngmini. If i died during the night, Subversion could tell with good certainty that young was gf, and he could bust him. | ||
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Pandain
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##Vote Abstain so now my three votes are double lynch, abstain, and bc | ||
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Pandain
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Guys vote for double lynch. Just vote for that first, don't have to make a decision about the other stuff. If two more people vote for bloody and south and double lynch, than we lynch those two but get no double lynch next time. #Unvote BC Just until we're sure of getting double lynch. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 14:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: so, your expecting me to believe that someone who fake claim dt, and outed his checks, then claimed dt mouth and admitted to knowing who the dt was, are claiming that you aren't the reason he died? Sounds like your a total fuckup kid. Frick, I forgot I was a total fadoodleup. what do you mean "outed his checks." I fake claimed DT to a guy we were going to let into our group. If I died, he would likely be GF and Subversion could've busted him. Is that so hard to believe? I might actually be the reason he died :/ but only because youngmini forced me to reveal some information regarding him. I was afraid I revealed to much, and I may have accidently caused him. But directly? Via mafia? No, I did not kill him. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 14:48 SiNiquity wrote: I swear I'm going to strangle you with the noose myself..  hehe fail again. ##Vote BloodyCobblar ##Vote SouthRawrsr Not sure about South, but it looks like he's going to get killed anyway :/ | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:21 Divinek wrote: my logical trail takes me down the same path, ill likely end up on a liar as well for my other vote because if you're town for fuck sakes dont openly lie to the town, at least in such a stupid and poor manner Just to clear it up, I did NOT lie to town. I lied only to Youngmini because we were going to let him into the circle but had to be sure he wasn't GF(since he had checked green.). I did NOT lie to the town or jeopardize it, until Youngmini reaveled it, probably with good intentions :/. It was ???,Subversion, and I's secret expirement. If I still lived, than youngmini wasn't GF and we would let him in our group. That's the extent of my lie, to youngmini for one day. The pms with Subversion I posted verify this. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: EXCEPT, you sent a fake dt mouth to citizen, then went to him yourself and claimed dt mouth. This is a entire wrench potentially tossed into citizen's plan (as shoddy as I think it is). As town that is such a bad call. Thats creating a situation to break someones entire plan/wasting checks etc... You knowingly made yourself a third dt/voice claimant. Hehe forgot. But again, we had a plan for this.(plans! Plans!). I didn't go to him myself. Youngmini did. So basically, I was going to get into contact with the other DT, and than relay the info to Subversion, probably telling him who the REAL dt was. Since Youngmini wanted to pm citizen, I couldn't just say no. So.... I told him to. Than citizen finds out. Now HE knows I'm the real dt rep. So I was basically going to replace youngmini in that regards. You're actually right though, if I had let youngmini tell citizen i was dt, it could've wasted checks. My mistake. I guess I had to think fast so I couldn't really make a thorough decision. Yay citizen for catching my word slip! yayyyy | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:24 Tricode wrote: ##Vote SouthRawrea ##Vote rastaban Apparently BC is both MH/DT, because that makes perfect sense and only adds a pile of shit and more confusion. The fact that some how BC claimed to two different roles through pm is highly unlikely and very risky move and once again still unlikely. These two idiots are just causing confusion and trying to push BC's lynch. I find the margin very slim that BC is red (though hell anything is possible), but as more accusations and claims are made about BC, the more fucked up, weird, and terrible the stories get. Please actually consider and analyze what is being said. I actually think theres a slight chance that south is mafia yet just trying to bring down BC with him. Any theories on that? Feedback as always. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: wait, you were openly trying to milk the dt name from citizen who you believed was legit (or at least legit enough to claim too), then after your called out for lying your dt dies? Dude what the hell. ???? Yeah I am, I was the rep for subversion. Wasn't that citizen's plan to tell the dt reps to contact each other? The only reason youngmini got involved was because there had to be a slight modification of the plan so that we could continue to see if YM was GF. Subversioni died because 1)I let leak too much info and mafia was able to confirm 2) Along with his original blue claim and behavior was able to confirm 3)???(other circle guy) is mafia, highly highly HIGHLY doubt that. 99.9999% not. Do you want any PM's of me/sub talking bou't this? I'd be happy to share. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Lying in PM = lying to town, because whoever gets your mail and catches you in a lie has an obligation to tell the town about it. Maybe if you are DT and check a red you can try lying to them to get more info but really that will probably just screw you over. Again, that's true. I was going to tell Youngmini the truth if Citizen ended up being blue/green. However, within 30 seconds probably he already had told so................. yeah. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I find it more amusing you think im dumb enough to multiclaim to people. I'm smart enough to know I'd be outted for something like that. But then again, with half the crap going on this game, the low level of thinking doesn't surprise me. 1.Rastaban had said(before revealing who DT is) that there was a triple claim. This is true. Therefore Rastaban did have a DT or had inflitrated. However, Zeks could easily have said"You didn't have a DT". Subversion and zeks' person are dts. Therefore Rastaban's "DT" is not. Its whether Rastaban is more trust worthy than you and I believe he is. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:48 SiNiquity wrote: More importantly, BC's death gives us something concrete to go off of. Much like Day 3 where Tricode red ==> BC red, we now have BC not red ==> South and Rasta red. So it's a win/win for town. Either get one red (BC) or two (South & Rasta). I wish it were so but sadly we have a double lynch. So its a mafia/innocent or mafia mafia. Still gives us info, but not us win/win | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 15:54 Protactinium wrote: With a full game's worth of PMs from both Pandain and Subversion, I can show you that this "secret experiment" was not anything planned between the three of us. In fact, Pandain went at it on his own, and did not consult Subversion or myself. I'll repost this pm. Btw is there a way to like show it in pm format? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: To: youngminii [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Secret Date: 7/23/10 15:42 Okay, I'm making a risk. I know it could lead to my death but w/e, I trust you. I think your too active to be GF. I'm the DT. Amber and you are both townies. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: which 1? can u post me the PM ----------------------------------------- Original Message: pmed him now. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: That's a good plan, lets do that. I'll tell u all the checks, so u wont even rly be lying either. I wonder, if we shouldn't try the same thing with Amber? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Actually I have a plan. I could reveal to him I'm the DT. Then I will die if he's GF, and then you can come out and bust him. I really think that's a good plan. Since your the only one(besides proct) that I can trust, what do you think. I clearly did tell Subversion You were probably awol, as you do alot cause of your guests. It's true that sometimes I have to make decisions fast because out of us 3 I was the most active. For example, when youngmini wanted to pm citizen I couldn't just say no. I delayed for like 7 minutes after I pmed you guys and had to make a decision. Checking my pms for other stuff. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 16:06 Divinek wrote: heyyy pandain can you post the pm that bc supposedly sent you ??? Quote me where I said he sent me that. | ||
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Pandain
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On July 26 2010 16:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: IF town was so sure of my guilt, they would be lynching zeks to do a few things. Prove his alignment, prove mine, prove southrawrs. INSTEAD he has said which means he has no bombs on me or SR. IE they could be anywhere. The soul means of proof he had to 100% clear his dt, clear himself, get info from me and SR is now moot. Effectively saving himself from having to prove his own identity. Do I think he is likely real based on SR/Rasta trying to off me? Yes, but he moved his bombs regardless, so him dying now becomes potentially harmful to the town depending on where those bombs went. I think (well) The reason I believe zeks is because he was foretold by Citizen. Since citizen is townie, than zeks is truly a mad hatter. Either that or GF and tricked Citizen/dt, but then we're screwed anyway so doesn't matter. | ||
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Pandain
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The best laid schemes of mice and men gang aft agley mean that even the most thought out plans can backfire, leaving us only grief and pain for promisd joy. Yeah but I was like WTF originally. | ||
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