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And yeah, the argument was what sold it to me that you were mafia. Nobody noticed cause everyone thought I was scummy though. That, and young played horribly :/
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And yeah, the argument was what sold it to me that you were mafia. Nobody noticed cause everyone thought I was scummy though. That, and young played horribly :/ | ||
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On August 05 2010 08:09 Bill Murray wrote: you're welcome, bro thanks for thanking me.. also thank you to the players, and flamewheel, ver, qatol, etc. for putting up with my stupidity as a mod Dude, it's all good. I got too frustrated during the game, I'm sorry. I know how much work you put into this. | ||
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On August 05 2010 08:19 Protactinium wrote: I seriously wonder how many people bothered to read them... Also what if I said I had made up a lot of the PMs between Pandain and myself? I read them! And they were really good. You were red at the end though T_T But you played a very good game. I sincerely hope you keep playing, man! (also play in my game which will be coming soon hehehe :D) | ||
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On August 05 2010 09:40 Divinek wrote: i think that requires him and radfield being in the same game, and both not red Some crazy coincidince will conspire to kill them both anyway  | ||
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I've already discussed my play, now I want to bring up the play of the town. Overall, town played terribly this game. There was not any one person who was super super bad and ruined it for us, it was our game to lose and we blew it. Here 4 points Pandain mentioned where town got screwed: On August 05 2010 06:27 Pandain wrote: Four major events that saved mafia: 1.Inflitration of DT Subversion 2.The Xelin Attack 3.Sexy blue sniping 4.Medic protecting BC(hehe) Some of these were unfortunate coincidences. Some of these were us utterly failing. 1) Infiltration of DT circle. It had been posted many many times that Pandain and Protact were in contact with subversion, after sub's death. When Pandain flipped miller, town should have immediately moved to lynch Protactinium. This is not based on anything that happened in the thread, this is based off of common sense. When a DT circle is infiltrated and the DT dies, you start lynching members of the circle until you catch the scum. We were basically handed Protactinium on a silver platter and nobody said anything other than "oh, we should think about this." D'oh >< 2) Xelin Attack When Xelin posted that "LOL IM SUICIDE BOMMA" post in the thread, here's what should have happened: a) zeks should have told another confirmed townie everything he knew (this happened, he told young, but young failed to pass it on to another confirmed townie, and then died the next night). b) Everyone should have gotten as fucking far away from zeks as possible. He was the most obvious target, the center of a town circle, there was no way XeliN wasn't going to bomb him. People should have thought a lot more. c) SINiquity shouldn't have fucking protected XeliN! That has to be the dumbest move all game. I really want to hear his logic, because right now I have to believe his logic train went like "hmm, xelin just claimed suicide bomber in the thread. I'M GOING TO PROTECT HIM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS HURR DURR" So yeah, that night was what turned it around for mafia. 5 townies dead in one night, ouch. 3) Sexy blue sniping not much we could do here, mafia played almost picture-perfect. Moving on... 4) Medic protecting BC Maybe I think this one was obvious, since at that point I was sure BC was red, but I don't know why Roffles protected him. Then, after Tricode got his shot blocked, people didn't ask questions, they just assumed Tricode would try to kill BC because of the meta going on there. This is an important lesson: even if there is a solid meta reason for something happening, look through the thread and see if you can't find an even better logical reason. Often the logical reason will trump the metagame reason. ...yeah. That sucked. Apart from those, there are a couple things: 1) youngminii throwing a temper tantrum and outing Pandain as a detective because voting didn't go the way he wanted. I'm sorry young, I know you're usually a good player, but this is inexcusable. You were green, under no circumstances should you be publically calling out a blue role unless they specifically ask you to. The fact that he was a mouth rather than the actual DT changes nothing, because you didn't know that. Regardless of what you thought of his plan, regardless of whether his play was dumb or smart, regardless of anything, you do not out a blue role. Unless you're mafia, of course. Or traitor. Then it's ok 2) d3's vote on me that ended the game. In a LYLO situation, you do not vote until you are 100% sure you are voting for a red. I was 100% sure rastaban was red, but I did have a contingency plan. When I voted, I stated I was probably going inactive for a while, this was actually a ploy. I was watching the thread very very closely. If I saw anyone stack on with little to no explanation, I would immediately have posted unvoting (I actually had the post ready to go), and throw FoS on that person. Then d3 came along, was like "LOL VOTE BROWNBEAR", and... you know the rest. Yeah, I don't actually know which play was worse - SIN's mafia-medicness, young's "GRR IM ANGRY PANDAIN IS DT", or d3's game ending impulse vote. These are just examples, and I'm in no way saying I'm mad at any of these players. I'm simply pointing out things you do not do in mafia. I've been guilty of really dumb play before (Team Melee Mini Mafia), and I learned from it, because everyone pointed it out. I loved playing with you all, even through your whoopsies, and this game was fun. However, I do want to talk about the setup a bit. People have already talked about some things (balance, KP, etc.) and I won't add on to that. I just want to post a couple logistical issues I had with this game: 1) If you are going to go inactive for large periods of time, please have a co-host who can post in your absence. A couple hours late once or twice is excusable. 28 hours late because you were playing Texas Hold-em is not. Sorry Bill, I <3 you, but it really frustrated me when that happened. 2) Please have a separate voting thread. If you insist on not doing so, at least make sure you can count votes properly, and please don't get angry at people when they try to count votes up when you aren't there. Actually, just have a separate voting thread. It's easier on all of us. 3) The day-ends-when-majority-is-reached rule is not a good rule. A fixed-hour day works much better, because people's minds can change in a 48-hour period. This setup is conducive to quick bandwagoning and gives mafia too much control over the day period, which is really supposed to be town's time to shine. The last lynch was the best example: 1 wrong vote, and mafia just bandwagoned town to death. Bearies to come later. Long post. Tired. | ||
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And usually, in a closed circle, it's easy-ish to find the leak. | ||
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On August 05 2010 12:04 Ace wrote: meh, I just think if given the choice I'd rather take a 1 shot vigilante over a hatter any day. Way stronger and more useful since they can confirm themselves without dying. Aww, I like the chaos that a hatter injects into the game. | ||
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The Bearies brought to you by Pandain, Dr. Pepper, Late Thursday nights, and Insomniacs, International. SECRET FRIENDSHIP BEARIE: for best secret PM alliance Goes to Pandain! Mostly because I had a lot of fun comparing ideas with him, and partially because he's just so darn amusing to PM with, lol. Plus, he uses the word “fadoodle”. It sucks that he had to die in the end, but I knew that our friendship was unbreakable, and I knew that he was in fact town (suck it Divinek )V FOR VENDETTA BEARIE: for most badass terrorist act Goes to XeliN! He had the cojones to ADMIT IN THE THREAD that he was asploding one night, and still managed to take out 3 townies by himself. Mafia then stacked on, and the death total rose to 5, which was arguably a turning point in the game. Well done XeliN, you deserve the 49 virgins you received in the mafia afterlife. TYPHOID MARY BEARIE: For worst medic Goes to SINiquity! SIN acted as a mafia medic this game, and at the time it was frustrating. Now that I look back on it, it was hilarious! He protected every mafia member under the sun. Then, when XeliN proceeded to start his brief reign of badassery and terror, SINiquity protected him. Yep. Protected the guy who just claimed Suicide Bomber. BRILLIANT! ITCHY TRIGGER FINGER BEARIE: For worst impulse vote Goes to d3_crescentia! His decision to randomly impulse vote for me on the last day ended the game when Mafia piled on. Enough said. RADFIELD JR. BEARIE: For most hard-luck player Well, I'm told by flamewheel that this should actually be Radfield Sr. Bearie, but whatever. It goes to Foolishness, who had this entire game made for him – only to get whacked night 1. Ouch, that has got to hurt. I'm sorry, man! BELKAR BITTERLEAF BEARIE: For the most chaotic player Goes to BloodyC0bbler! He caused untold amounts of chaos in the town. Once he got rid of Foolishness, Roffles, and the other big-name players, he was free to romp. And romp he did. He almost talked himself out of a situation where he got lynched (and he could have, if not for majority lynch + hardheaded players like me, lol). He got citi.zen lynched in an unfavorable situation to him. He managed to protect rastaban. He did everything a GF should do, and did it right. Well done, sir! 4CHAN BEARIE: For new meme: “It's iNfuNdiBuLuM.” That's all for now folks! Sorry they're abbreviated this game, but I am tired. | ||
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