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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 07:23 GMT
#897
sorry to argue pedantics. I am sort of anal retentive.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 07:26 GMT
#899
On July 05 2010 16:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 16:22 Bill Murray wrote:
"Detective
You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night, starting on Night 2, "


He makes no reference anywhere to sanity however

I will be heading to bed soon, but I would strongly suggest people as they wake up to go look at the posts of people who have been semi lurking. With the 4th of july done and canada day done, we should be ignoring all excuses like "sorry social life called" as well, when you commit to a mafia game, you should be able to find some time in a day to play.

I am keeping my vote on DCLXVI for now as out of every player in this game so far, he has rarely posted (at least to my memory) and seems to be rather under the radar.

I endorse that sentiment. I feel as if he hasn't been doing anything at all. I hope he's our jailkeeper, if we have one, or our coroner, if we have a second one, and lakrismamma wasn't lying.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 07:32 GMT
#902
The play you are endorsing in pressuring lurkers leads to roleclaiming, though, when near lynch.

As a result, I do not see why you yourself are not pro-roleclaiming as your play is going towards
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 07:32 GMT
#903
Care to rectify?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 07:48 GMT
#910
if we have roleclaims there will be far less gray area
with our coroner dying we need this
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 07:48 GMT
#911
we can only be sure of the right now in this game
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 07:52 GMT
#913
lets not rely on lukewarm plans like korynne's where you have 6% to lynch the godfather every night

lets pressure them into having to roleclaim townie or veteran. if they have the balls to claim veteran, hell, we get 50% likelihood. If all the mafia claim to be green, and we have 5-6 blue claims, then we have around 10 people to lynch out of. That makes it 10% to get the Godfather. If we have an extraordinarily high number of claims (like 3 hatters, lol) then we have 33% chance of hitting scum, and we don't really hurt our town KP.

MUCH better than like 6% and a delay on finding your results every night, having to see your vig ( i know we dont have them, just a for instance) dying, and being demoralized. We need to come together and roleclaim and put pressure on the mafia.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 08:00 GMT
#914
Just in terms of our lynch it helps, as I have illustrated above, but it can also help keep our DTs alive. The mafia are lurking, so the people who are town (blue roles) who are lurking are OBVIOUS to them.

Make is OBVIOUS to us green players too, so we can help you all put pressure on the mafia using our townie kp (the lynch!). You guys can jail the dts, roleblock big name players who have claimed in a group with an irregular number (like if 5 people claim dt). We need to do this NOW as opposed to later.

Besides our blue roles actively lurking and acting obvious to the mafia (notice how they raped our coroner already), and us not getting our full use out of a coordinated town with ourselves split, we will be able to use innovative and cool strategies with claims. TL doesn't usually have a pro-town roleblocker, the jailkeeper, or w/e. We will be able to see new things with roleclaims. I wouldn't push an idea such as this, but we are fucked if we don't start going balls to the wall. By day 4 we are boned. We need to even vote on double lynch to be honest
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 09:48 GMT
#919
that's what i said, ace, thanks for being my yes man here
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 09:50 GMT
#920
On July 05 2010 17:07 youngminii wrote:
If you think Korynne's plan gave too scum too much power, what are you doing considering mass roleclaim?

Roleclaiming would only give scum complete and utter control of the game. They would know who's who and just pick off the most dangerous. It's uncalled for. Roleclaim in a dire situation such as lylo, not now.


yeah, lets wait until all our medics die, and we dont have any tanks... THEN WE'LL STIM
THAT'S SUCH A GOOD IDEA U GUYZ EVEN IF IM NOT PROVIDING ANY EVIDENCE AND CANT COUNTER THE MATH OF LYLO @ DAY4 ZOMG

provide evidence as to why this is bad or a different plan

ace and i are calling for a roleclaim
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 09:52 GMT
#921
On July 05 2010 16:18 Bill Murray wrote:
We are going to claim. This is gonna be cool. Claiming would help us coordinate the blues, would pressure the Godfather, and would just simply be more fun.

We can't have a safehouse for our DT? Who says? With claims we can! If L is a jailkeeper and BC is a DT we can have BC staying on L's couch checkin up on the internet to see if YellowInk is money laundering. We could have a "veteran" claimer roleblocked if we have more than one vet claim! IMAGINE the POSSIBILITIES. Hatter putting bombs on "townies"? np. Veterans claiming Jailkeeper? NP NP. Dreamcatchers claiming when they get a role such as jailkeeper and detective? amazing. P.S. if you're the coroner say you're the traitor and laugh while linking to an article about Christopher Walken dancing on Broadway

Claiming definitely pressures the Godfather through making him claim something he isn't. It would make him lie to exist, or lurk. Either one of them could potentially be dissected as scummy play. By pressuring him, we can kill him, and by killing him, we can eliminate that stupid ass recruitment factor. You have to cut the head off of the snake for it to quit growing in this sense. Roleclaiming in a limited factor, with certain roles still hiding (coroner, for instance), would possibly benefit the town through finding the godfather via a dt being kept alive or through having him make a mistake via the pressure.

Roleclaiming will be more like actually fighting a war, using maelstrom and storm, as opposed to playing Russian Roulette. This is a GAME. It is meant to be FUN. Let's have fun and roleclaim together :p


@youngminii: address this, and give me a way we can create a situation in which we have a 50% chance to lynch the godfather without a method such as this, please, then we'll talk.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 09:53 GMT
#923
We don't have much time. Anyone after this point needs to roleclaim in their post.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 18:15 GMT
#929
On July 06 2010 01:43 YellowInk wrote:
Alright, there has been a lot of poor thought process in this game, but this one takes the cake. If this were a normal game I would say lynch Bill Murray! But it isn't, so I'm not, read on...

This is what you should be doing if you have a role.

Since with Ace and BC entering the game there has been some renewed discussion, let me add some clarification to the idea of the 'modified Korynne plan'. The strength of Korynne's plan was that you could know who was being roleblocked without having to out the roleblocker. If you select 3 people and make the roleblockers block among them, you're getting the worst of both worlds. You're encouraging overlap between multiple roleblockers, and you're not getting the information of who was blocked. Roleblockers should stick to complete non-disclosure as indicated in the linked post above.

To those who counter my hanging Abenson - I am not interested in hanging him because I think he's a likely recruit. I don't even care about hanging recruits right now! The godfather needs to be targeted first and foremost. The godfather needs to find a way to blend in. If Abenson is getting defended, then clearly his strategy is effective. Tomorrow will be the same - we're going to find someone who hasn't been contributing and hang them.

Now back to our fine Bill Murray. He would be an excellent target for role blocking and mad hatter bomb laying. This is how we deal with people who are fresh recruits - not lynch! Lynches should be targeted at those whom you think are going to hit a godfather candidate and nowhere else until we get confirmation or choose to assume that the godfather is dead.

Also note that just because Bill Murray is an excellent roleblock target doesn't mean that as a roleblocker you should definitely block him. With the state of the game, if I were a roleblocker, I'd probably put 30-60% on blocking him, 40-70% on blocking someone else of my choice. You always want to have some uncertainty in your decisions so that you can maximize your effectiveness since it is, of course, uncertain whether Bill Murray is red and whether there are other blockers besides yourself. Overlapping blocks on a town aligned or traitor BM is a significant loss for the town.

I believe Abenson is still an excellent godfather candidate. Furthermore, if he is town aligned, we get the extra bonus of hanging someone who we won't be able to read should he be recruited in the future. I agree that Abenson would be an unlikely recruit for night 1 or 2, but night 4 or 5 if we're at each other's throats and he's still alive for some reason, he could be an excellent recruit.

Regardless of if you agree with me about Abenson, you should choose your lynch based on who you think is likely to be godfather. While the choice of godfather was random, the players each choose their own play style to match their role.


roleblock me and plant bombs on me? because i'm encouraging roleclaims? you make me sick.
you are definitely a scum slot this game, or are at least acting like one. "overlapping blocks on a town aligned bm is a significant loss to the town" YA THINK? you're acting like a moron. You've been acting like a moron since your first few posts on day 1.

Lets roleblock the guy who is trying to help the town and provide good ideas
you're so smart yellowink
i wish i could be as smart as you
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 23:32 GMT
#944
"I cannot be sure that he is just an aggressive player normally, but this sort of play is not beneficial to the town. Trying to get everyone to reveal without the support of at least most of the town could force us into a bad position. Had other players posted their roles then the town might be forced into roleclaiming to protect the few who claimed. Even if he does think his plan is beneficial, it is dangerous to try to force that play especially without support."



I disagree. I feel that if we don't have a roleclaim we're fucked. I might be wrong.

On July 06 2010 07:34 youngminii wrote:
DT definitely has higher priority than coroner.

I agree
at the LATEST we should roleclaim tomorrow, guys. DTs should be open with their findings.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 05 2010 23:42 GMT
#946
On July 06 2010 08:32 citi.zen wrote:
How can everyone completely ignore Chezinu? I mean... Abenson? Really? I can't help but laugh. Go read chezinu's posts this game before you vote...

it's chezinu. who knows what he's up to. abenson's play feels weird to me. i don't mind this lynch.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 06 2010 06:40 GMT
#1018
It's cult style, and we're fucked in a day if we don't roleclaim and coordinate, but whatever
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 06 2010 06:42 GMT
#1019
if i was dt i would check ace/bc/yellowink tonight
hell, if you're dt, check me and confirm me for now too
if you're jailer, jail someone repetitively. i'd jail someone like hesmyrr if i was jailer.
if you're a roleblocker, try roleblocking abenson to see if L was lying
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 06 2010 06:56 GMT
#1021
do not roleblock me i am a fucking townie
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 06 2010 06:56 GMT
#1022
roleblock abenson and take away their killpower
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 06 2010 07:11 GMT
#1025
we can see whats up based upon whether or not 2 people die
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