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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 15:03 GMT
#1641
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Strategic modkills are NOT allowed, either.

So no. Terrible one potential confirm (second mason) died. I'll do a quick check up to see what to do. Also chez, young already checked BM O.O
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:01 GMT
#1645
Likely Confirmed[/i]
youngminii, Bill Murray, zeks, Hesmyrr

Unconfirmed
Chezinu (Mad Hatter), BloodyC0bbler, DCLXVI, rastaban

[b]A5J, if zeks were indeed banking on your death and wrote your name down to frame you as second mason upon your death, write "skez" as your death post. If you confirm zeks write "mason". youngminii investigates BloodyC0bbler, Chezinu switches one of his bomb to someone that is NOT BloodyC0bbler or likely confirmed Townies.

Also the town was being stupid and failed to attain majority needed for double lynch. We can only lynch single player tomorrow. I am SO angry about that. If BC doesn't turn out to be scum and jailkeeper dies, we end up at:

5-2
[b]Likely Confirmed
youngminii, BloodyC0bbler, zeks, Hesmyrr

Unconfirmed
Chezinu (Mad Hatter), DCLXVI, rastaban
[/i]
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:05 GMT
#1646
Oh wait, DCLXVI IS Cleared. Nice. Thanks for reminding me rastaban.

Likely Confirmed
youngminii, BloodyC0bbler, zeks, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr

Unconfirmed
Chezinu (Mad Hatter), rastaban

DCLXVI is clear because he was roleblocked and the kill still occured. Godfather immediately died thereafter following day.

So Chezinu, switch your bomb to rastaban or just withdraw one that is on Likely Confirmed players if you already did.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:08 GMT
#1647
Actually if you currently have bomb on rastaban and you have second one to spare, transfer it to zeks. Then we lynch Chezinu to remove doubtful Townies at once; Chezinu, zeks, rastaban. Even after one kill occurs it is still lylo with two confirmed Townies and one possibly unconfirmed one (me).
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:15 GMT
#1650
So this is my finalized plan. Igonore everything I said above:

YOUNGMINII investigates BloodyC0bbler
BILL MURRAY jails youngminii
CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr).

zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed.

DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:16 GMT
#1651
On July 13 2010 01:14 rastaban wrote:
why are you listing zeks as doubtful? to me he has the strongest claim of anyone, darth pointed out in the card selection method that we have 2 masons and 2 lovers. There is no way we still have 2 masons who never claimed.

Just realized that and adjusted my plan accordingly. As long as A5J replies "Mason" it will be clear and peachy. In the end Chezinu, you, and me are the only one unconfirmed.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:22 GMT
#1653
Probably. I'm going to copy paste this color-coded plan on the front of every page

YOUNGMINII investigates BloodyC0bbler
BILL MURRAY jails youngminii
CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr).

zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed.

DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 19:45 GMT
#1661
YOUNGMINII investigates BloodyC0bbler
BILL MURRAY jails youngminii
CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr).

zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed.

DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter.


It doesn't matter; after we lynch the unconfirmed players and the game still doesn't end, the town can still lynch me for the win. Also in response to zeks question, we are probably missing something then- or most likely, youngminii is goon making a gambit with false investigation results but ended up being without his comrades as the list of unconfirmed players were decimated.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 13 2010 14:35 GMT
#1702
youngminii used his abilities splendidly, I think. He literally won us a game in what I find to be extremely mafia-sided setup. Also props to Bill Murray for his decision to jail me and I think Chenizu at the very last night?- I have no idea why I stood out that much compared to rest of the veterans, honestly. (double jail AND recruit attempt? )

Also I agree L modkill really screwed the town; loss of traitor/mafia really cost them valuable window to counterclaim youngminii in that critical day.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 17:15:01
July 14 2010 15:59 GMT
#1733
--Town lynches citi.zen-- ??? :p

Post-game notes (would be interested in knowing other's thoughts during the game too):
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      I first signed in without realizing this was no flip setup, so I really didn't know what I was getting into. I generally just did nothing day 1 because I felt at this point there was not much to do, but I gave my opinion about some of the setup discussions going on so people didn't home in on me for lurking. Apparently I was in that perfect state of not standing out that both Godfather and Jailkeeper thought of me as good n1 target.

I also generally trusted zeks roleclaim even before he posted the encrypted code, and would have been stood with this impression until somebody counter-claimed. Also I didn't generally like Korynne's plan because in retrospect, she seemed to be putting too much faith into following the result of her plan. Maybe she might have garnered more support if she simply advocated that the town should decide who to roleblock? If no kill occured, we could have discussed what it possibly meant thereafter. Also BM-Korryne tit tat war was pretty lol. Judged the argument itself was not enough to judge their scumminess, which is why I voted for ElyAs as planned.

Interesting tidbit about this post; realizing this was no lynch I thought setup was favourable toward Mafia, and that I better try to get recruited sooner or later. So the linked post was actually my attempt to give impression that I was Detective.
but I would still rather have PR use their round of investigations once before increasing their chance of exposure.

The sentence was intended to give off impression that I was PR reluctant to out myself before using my ability. I never played anti-town intentionally, but it's always nice to have emergency exit prepared.

      The second day started up in unfortunate note with Coroner death, thought we were pretty unlucky there. Of course the night one in fact concluded with massive luck for town as BM has blocked Godfather's recruitment in what I consider epic save, but nobody but citi.zen knew that.

Nothing on day 2 that particularly seem talk-worthy; I don't even remember why lynched Divinek bumatlarge. Wow, shows how much I paid attention that day. All I know is L is dead, and we decided to crack Coroner faster than I intended due to wrong bandwagon.

      Rofl, I just saw my post where I refute Bill Murray for saying "i'd jail someone like hesmyrr if i was jailer." That partial breadcrumbing was really dangerous looking at it now. Citi.zen knew the recruitment did not work against me for some reason, meaning either: 1) I was jailed, 2) I am the second mason. Bill Murray actively saying he would jail Hesmyrr should have told him that BM is likely jailer, making him ripe recruitment target. Either way it really didn't matter as youngminii checked citi.zen successfully, he would never get chance to recruit ever again.

Bill Murray switcheroo really confused me a lot, he should be glad that I was never an advocate of Lynch All Liars. The way he angered the town kept him alive in the following night though, so that's food for thought. With no counter-claim and no other alternative to follow, rest of the game was pretty easy. Following day I was pretty convinced both were legit, hammered in the fact that game was over before mafia (which I believed there was two at the time) tried to discredit youngminii-Bill Murray, and BloodyC0bbler conceded.

I feel somewhat sorry for YellowInk for lynching him, as any unconfirmed Townies could have literally taken his spot. I just supported his lynch just because he was the one with most votes. If there was secondary bandwagon along with YellowInk bandwagon there might have been confusion that might have somehow screwed up the plan. The fact that he was way too objective didn't help matters either. I know you should never trust anyone unless 100% confirmed, and youngminii-Bill Murray pair was not, but in no flip setup like this I believe complete faith on validity of some players is required to prevent the town from drowning in anarchy of WIFOM.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 14 2010 21:46 GMT
#1739
Well, I mean it was really obvious it was bandwagon. I just didn't care :p
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 16 2010 15:26 GMT
#1749
People take game too personally in this forum <.<
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
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