EPTOn June 28 2010 03:08 L wrote:
If mafia control the lynch numerically, it doesn't fucking matter how many teams are left.
If mafia control the lynch numerically, it doesn't fucking matter how many teams are left.
Shit son, you are correct.
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A quick overview -The most inactive team still left in the game. -Only posts, and I mean ONLY posts, when their integrity or inactivity is called into question. Now, in most games, this alone would be grounds for a lynch. However, given the gravity of the situation, we should look deeper. Pages 1-29 or so: almost NOTHING of substance. Like seriously. They didn't even have to post to get out of being lynched thanks to BM-Chez playing the retard card and getting lynched for it. Definitely sets themselves up to be standard lurker team, contributing almost nothing. Interestingly, zyrre was slightly more active, but he's now dead. Page 31: Zyrre agrees with Ace against L - looks good for L, bad for Ace, given the way I'm leaning on this team. Page 33: Nikon posts this: On June 26 2010 03:27 Nikon wrote: Unless he just got them out of the way so they won't argue with his posts later on. I don't know why supporting a scummy team would be a good thing in your book. Well, in this case, DCL actually had pretty good logic. It is pretty rare that mafia gets modkilled, even more so if the mafia is someone like Caller. Caller getting mafia is just an epic excuse for him to troll, you have to think he'd jump at the chance. I think that modkills make it less likely that a team has a blue/red role, at least in this game, because the addition of something else to do/the feeling of power for having a blue/red role tends to make people more active (sure, mafia try to lurk all the time, but they also tend to post just enough to avoid modkills). Secondly, why would L push for killing Team 1 right after having an argument with them? L knows that if there's a public argument in a thread, and then one party in that argument dies, the other party tends to get lynched for "shutting up" the other person. It's a pretty weak reason to lynch someone, because mafia knows about it too and will lynch one half of a townie argument to throw suspicion on the other townie. I don't buy L double-faking us out like that. So Nikon's logic is flawed, let's see if meeple has anything to say. In between, zyrre has some excellent analysis going, and some decent quality posts, but most of it was what had already been said before, so he actually wasn't that helpful. I guess he got modkilled for failure to vote, which sucks. Back to meeple... meeple... Apparently did not post in the thread the entirety of Day 2. Looking at the voting thread, looks like he didn't vote either. Wut? How is he not modkilled? Summary: Zyrre was the only part of this team that had somewhat ok logic, and he is dead, and even he was pretty inactive and unhelpful, preferring to only say what had been sad before. Nikon is kind of fail at a) staying alive, b) posting things of substance, and c) provoking any meaningful discussion. I'm starting to get a scum read here. | ||
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We're in LYLO. We need careful, detailed analysis on EVERYONE, not just one or two people, and if you two bury the entire thread in a long drawn-out argument, like you did yesterday, we're not gonna get that. So unless you two are mafia and actively trying to stop town discussion from happening, just shut the hell up, and talk about some other people for once. | ||
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On June 28 2010 10:50 L wrote: To be rather frank, I'm pretty sure letting their team control 2 lynches and having both of them come up town is pretty conclusive that they're mafia. I'd rather have this shit said now than get offed and let Ace cruise off the back of a terrible town to victory. If you really think Ace is mafia, you should know that him offing you is really dumb. | ||
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On June 28 2010 10:46 Ace wrote: calm yourself. What are you getting at? If we both think the other is certainly scum and we might hit LyLo then no shit we're going to try and off the other. Why would we even try to go after someone were even less certain of? Explain yourself. It's not that I don't want you to off someone you think is mafia. There are 2 mafia in the game though. If you saw my earlier post, I want everyone to analyze someone in a list, which you haven't done yet. Neither of you has. Pushing for someone who you are convinced is mafia is totally fine, but there is a limit, and we have to be thinking for the future, assuming there is one. So you both have made your argument, you can just vote on each other, and maybe analyze who you think the second mafia is. If you still want to compete for votes, here you go: I'll place my vote aligned with whoever I think contributes more to the town by analyzing other people and posting quality shit today. | ||
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On June 28 2010 11:04 LaXerCannon wrote: I'm siding with L on this Explain why pls. | ||
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On June 28 2010 11:03 Ace wrote: whatever, you do that then. I'll deal with the second scum team after L is dead and gone. Your narrowmindedness on this is whats gotten us into trouble in the first place. Can't you just spend ONE POST to analyze team 3 today? It won't kill you. | ||
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Well, I was medic, for what it's worth. | ||
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Day 1, we lynched Team 2 (fail) Night 1, we protected Team 4 (extra fail) Day 2, we lynched Team 9 (f-f-f-fail), and 2/3 of the team decided to go AWOL Night 2, we protected Team L, but that didn't seem to make that much of a difference. So yeah. All the modkills Day 2 murdered Town stone cold dead. | ||
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For what it was worth, I was convinced Team 4 was town until the last page, when Ace's stubbornness made me start to wonder. | ||
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On June 28 2010 11:12 YellowInk wrote: This game was full of fail. Modkill game wtf??? I look forward to postgame discussion. Do we want to do it in IRC? Yeah, which channel? | ||
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On June 28 2010 11:15 Ace wrote: I was taunting you lololololololololol. I could write a book as to how to dupe the town. There were so many bad bad bad logic leaps and arguments this game. Jeezus christ. You bastard  | ||
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First time playing medic, so don't rag on me too much plz. | ||
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LVP: BrownBear Carcinogeneticist: Team 2 Radfield Jr. Team 1 Hangover: BumCannon Angrybear: Korynne Korynne: Yink And now, I present to you: THE BEARIES!!! ![[image loading]](http://www.filmfestivals.com/pixus/festivals/berlin/2001/ours_dor.jpg) (please note: Bearies are lighthearted trophies I decided to give out because I felt like it. No insult or emotional distress is intended by the Bearies. If you are insulted by a Bearie, it is probably because you are angry and/or neoconservative and/or German, and hate web 2.0 )Fun awards I thought I'd give out to players for their different accomplishments in this game. It was a ton of fun, and I didn't want it to end without at least some recognition for some players, so without further ado... THE BIG GOLDEN BEARIE: For most valuable player (name credit goes to L) Goes to Team 4!!! Team 4 absolutely packed town's shit this game. They passed themselves off as extremely pro-town, while simultaneously stopping all discussion via his long, drawn out, exceptionally well done argument with L. He kept me convinced he was mafia until the last possible second, when it didn't matter anyway. GG THE RADFIELD JR. BEARIE: For most hard luck townie Goes to Team 1! Radfield finally won his own bearie, getting predictably shot on night 1, while Korynne also gets nailed by the curse of the Radfield. She was so excited to play in her own setup too T_T THE CARCINOGENETICIST BEARIE: For the best troll (Someday someone will get this reference, I swear) Goes to Team 2! Team 2 had oh so much fun spamming the thread. The fake medic claim was hilarious, especially to the real medic (me). The morse code misdirected everyone. Even after death, Bill Murray still had fun in the thread, calling POLICY POLICE on Ace, then later on posting "8 MINUTES TO GO" (in the wrong thread), and causing us all to freak out, if only for a moment. Classy, and classic. SPECIAL AWARD: THE IDRABACON "FUCKING SKILLESS NOOBIE" BEARIE: For most boneheaded townie Goes to me T_T Actually, lets let this be a teaching moment. At night 2, there were still 6 teams in the game. The aggregate voting power, spread out amongst these teams, was 23. Mafia still had 3 players in the game (Ace, DTA, and YellowInk) and controlled 9 or these 23 votes. There were 3 2-person teams left: Ace/DTA (mafia), Nikon and meeple (town, 4 votes), and bumatlarge/LaXer (town, 6 votes). Mafia needs only to knock off 5 votes to end the game in a victory for them. As medic, I had two options to ensure that no matter what, mafia wouldn't end the game: protect Team 4 or Team 3. I started off protecting Team 4. Now, as the night wore on, and Ace started being a stubborn prick in the thread, I started rereading what he posted, and came to the conclusion that he was actually mafia. Logically, what I should have done then was switch my vote over to Team 3, thus ensuring that at best nobody would die, and at worst town would still have enough voting power to potentially win. Inexcusably, though, I read "oh shit, Ace is mafia" in the thread, then chose to protect L. Yep. I protected 3-vote L instead of 6-vote team 3. I had the balance of the game in my hands and I blew it. Hurp Derp. This is me: ![[image loading]](http://derp.blogs.exetel.com.au/uploads/derppics/derp11.jpg) This lesson applies to other mafia games as well, not just ones set up like this. In a LYLO situation where there is a mayor and a medic, ALWAYS protect the mayor. His 3 votes will swing the balance of the game between victory and defeat. Don't let the thread get the better of you, if you are medic, ALWAYS look at shit like this before you decide to protect. It could end up saving the game. THE "I WAS HUNGOVER AND MISSED THE GAME" BEARIE: For the other team that dropped the ball Goes to Team 3, I'm afraid. Team 3 had gotten back a mafia rolecheck on Team 4 on day 2. Logically, in a LYLO situation, you would roleclaim in the thread, ask for medic protection, and hopefully survive long enough to lynch the mafia. If this had happened, 3 things would have happened: I wouldn't have failed, and would have protected him. Team 4 would have been lynched Town would probably have won. Sadly, LaXer was at a party. And bum was nowhere to be seen. Thus, this golden opportunity was missed, and town suffered. THE ANGRY BEARIE: For most rage Goes to Korynne  Sorry dude. I fucked up. Sorry I couldn't bring it home for you.THE KORYNNE BEARIE: For the best rookie This one is hard. Originally, I was going to give it to Durak, because he tried very hard and actually posted some good stuff. Sadly, he got modkilled on Day 2, thus disqualifying himself for this bearie (modkills are an auto-disqualify for any of the bearies given out for playing well). Thus, with no other rookies in the game, this bearie will go to YellowInk again, despite it being technically his second game :D GJ Yellow, you played very well and I never suspected you as mafia! That's all for this time folks! GG all, it was fun, see you next game! | ||
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On June 28 2010 12:32 BrownBear wrote: MVP: Team 4 LVP: BrownBear Carcinogeneticist: Team 2 Radfield Jr. Team 1 Hangover: BumCannon Angrybear: Korynne Korynne: Yink And now, I present to you: THE BEARIES!!! (please note: Bearies are lighthearted trophies I decided to give out because I felt like it. No insult or emotional distress is intended by the Bearies. If you are insulted by a Bearie, it is probably because you are angry and/or neoconservative and/or German, and hate web 2.0 )Fun awards I thought I'd give out to players for their different accomplishments in this game. It was a ton of fun, and I didn't want it to end without at least some recognition for some players, so without further ado... THE BIG GOLDEN BEARIE: For most valuable player (name credit goes to L) Goes to Team 4!!! Team 4 absolutely packed town's shit this game. They passed themselves off as extremely pro-town, while simultaneously stopping all discussion via his long, drawn out, exceptionally well done argument with L. He kept me convinced he was mafia until the last possible second, when it didn't matter anyway. GG THE RADFIELD JR. BEARIE: For most hard luck townie Goes to Team 1! Radfield finally won his own bearie, getting predictably shot on night 1, while Korynne also gets nailed by the curse of the Radfield. She was so excited to play in her own setup too T_T THE CARCINOGENETICIST BEARIE: For the best troll (Someday someone will get this reference, I swear) Goes to Team 2! Team 2 had oh so much fun spamming the thread. The fake medic claim was hilarious, especially to the real medic (me). The morse code misdirected everyone. Even after death, Bill Murray still had fun in the thread, calling POLICY POLICE on Ace, then later on posting "8 MINUTES TO GO" (in the wrong thread), and causing us all to freak out, if only for a moment. Classy, and classic. SPECIAL AWARD: THE IDRABACON "FUCKING SKILLESS NOOBIE" BEARIE: For most boneheaded townie Goes to me T_T Actually, lets let this be a teaching moment. At night 2, there were still 6 teams in the game. The aggregate voting power, spread out amongst these teams, was 23. Mafia still had 3 players in the game (Ace, DTA, and YellowInk) and controlled 9 or these 23 votes. There were 3 2-person teams left: Ace/DTA (mafia), Nikon and meeple (town, 4 votes), and bumatlarge/LaXer (town, 6 votes). Mafia needs only to knock off 5 votes to end the game in a victory for them. As medic, I had two options to ensure that no matter what, mafia wouldn't end the game: protect Team 4 or Team 3. I started off protecting Team 4. Now, as the night wore on, and Ace started being a stubborn prick in the thread, I started rereading what he posted, and came to the conclusion that he was actually mafia. Logically, what I should have done then was switch my vote over to Team 3, thus ensuring that at best nobody would die, and at worst town would still have enough voting power to potentially win. Inexcusably, though, I read "oh shit, Ace is mafia" in the thread, then chose to protect L. Yep. I protected 3-vote L instead of 6-vote team 3. I had the balance of the game in my hands and I blew it. Hurp Derp. This is me: This lesson applies to other mafia games as well, not just ones set up like this. In a LYLO situation where there is a mayor and a medic, ALWAYS protect the mayor. His 3 votes will swing the balance of the game between victory and defeat. Don't let the thread get the better of you, if you are medic, ALWAYS look at shit like this before you decide to protect. It could end up saving the game. THE "I WAS HUNGOVER AND MISSED THE GAME" BEARIE: For the other team that dropped the ball Goes to Team 3, I'm afraid. Team 3 had gotten back a mafia rolecheck on Team 4 on day 2. Logically, in a LYLO situation, you would roleclaim in the thread, ask for medic protection, and hopefully survive long enough to lynch the mafia. If this had happened, 3 things would have happened: I wouldn't have failed, and would have protected him. Team 4 would have been lynched Town would probably have won. Sadly, LaXer was at a party. And bum was nowhere to be seen. Thus, this golden opportunity was missed, and town suffered. THE ANGRY BEARIE: For most rage Goes to Korynne I fucked up. Sorry I couldn't bring it home for you.THE KORYNNE BEARIE: For the best rookie This one is hard. Originally, I was going to give it to Durak, because he tried very hard and actually posted some good stuff. Sadly, he got modkilled on Day 2, thus disqualifying himself for this bearie (modkills are an auto-disqualify for any of the bearies given out for playing well). Thus, with no other rookies in the game, this bearie will go to YellowInk again, despite it being technically his second game :D GJ Yellow, you played very well and I never suspected you as mafia! That's all for this time folks! GG all, it was fun, see you next game! | ||
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