At any rate, if he really is Leucius and a survivor, glad to be rid of the non townies.

Also of note to put the DT's on a good track, I have a slight pro town read on AFJ right now.

I am currently most curious about ~OpZ~, Jayme, Radfield, and Roffles. I think they would make good DT targets unless someone wants to vouch for these people. And unless the vouch is supremely convincing, I'd still like to see them investigated. Not to discourage any vouchers, I'd like to hear from you too.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 04:31 GMT

#768

Amber[Light], there is one way I could potentially be convinced that you are town. You need to make a full role claim and you need to do it now: Your name, note all of your abilities (except mason since that gets you modkilled), and anything else of relevance.

Furthermore, if you have knowledge of why I ask this of you and why it benefits the town so greatly, you are welcome to disclose this as well.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 04:32 GMT

#770

On June 29 2010 13:29 Abenson wrote:
I'm probably going to get another mafia temp ban
That's if BM decide to modkill me.

Why?

By modkilling me, BM is basically verifying that my PM is indeed legit. Therefore by dying I am basically using modkilling to my advantage, and therefore is breaking the rule for strategic modkilling.

I'm fucked.

No you won't. BM's modkill will not count for Qatol's list since this game is not associated with the ban list.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 04:35 GMT

#774

No need to stress, BM is obviously not here right now. Lets get back to our Amber[Light] discussion or at least something productive.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 04:39 GMT

#778

On June 29 2010 13:37 JeeJee wrote:
what's there to discuss
he claims he rb'd you
you claim otherwise
one of you is lying

You say this like there's nothing else to do. How about opinions of ~OpZ~, Jayme, Radfield, or Roffles?

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 05:17 GMT

#788

On June 29 2010 13:52 JeeJee wrote:
yink
so you're not just a medic, confirm/deny

My spellset would mesh reasonably well with an elected role, but regardless of election will need to remain concealed to keep its optimal efficiency.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 06:28 GMT

#794

BM, for clarity, how many Death Eaters are still in the game?

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 06:35 GMT

#796

1, 2, 3.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 06:38 GMT

#799

BM you stated at the beginning of the game that there were 4 death eaters. You told us nagini was a death eater. Upon his being slain, you did not say he was a death eater. If you're being deliberately obtuse, just say so and that's fine.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 06:58 GMT

#804

I am almost positive there is no better target to hang today besides Amber[Light]. That being said, I am open to further discussion. I think that the more this is discussed, the more obvious it will become.

Please note that it only takes 7 votes to lynch someone since there are 12 votes alive in the game. If you want to look at hanging someone else, for discussion's sake just say so rather than voting for them so that Amber[Light] can't use their 3 votes to suddenly lynch.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 07:00 GMT

#806

On June 29 2010 15:57 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [anger] +

Bill murrary, I'm so pissed at you for ruining this game. You modded like a fucking retard up to now (random roles not listed in the op, wishy washy about rules, constantly making mistakes, etc) but what you just did took the cake. How does it make any sense that both me and whatchamacallit die because abenson dies?

Just for everyone's amusement, I was given a "3rd party traitor" role, where if the # of malfoys outnumbers the number of the rest of the town, malfoys win. This sounded fun, but then I realized that BM had not given me a list of their accounts or even many there were. I had to send him many PMs to try to convince him that there is no point in this malfoy win bullshit if I had almost no way of working towards my victory (how was I supposed to stop them from being killed/lynched if I didn't know who they were?). Finally, yesterday, I convinced him and he gave me the choice of whether I want to have their names or whether I should just be a normal death eater. I decided to be normal death eater because I didn't want their fucking names, I wanted their accounts, and was done trying to make him understand.

Never playing in one of bill murray's games again. How hard is it to mod a mafia game? FFS.

Hope the rest of you kids have fun for the remainder of the game and aren't the recipient of BM's stupidity.

I'm sure there will be a lively post game discussion.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 17:12 GMT

#874

Good morning everyone.

So Amber[Light] is claiming Harry Potter? I think we should give this some time to settle to allow for a counter claim. If no one counter claims, I would consider believing it. It may be that this is just a scum ploy to out the real Harry Potter, but if two AKs can be blocked it makes AL either HWMNBN or Harry. Considering how much town strength we have, unless the real Harry has some super scary info, he should probably go ahead and counter claim this.

I think it's worth giving this some time to allow a counter claim.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 17:42 GMT

#875

Also worth discussing, if neither of us is scum, who should we lynch?

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 19:23 GMT

#909

Of note, with Mad Eye Moody down, we're at 11 votes, meaning it only takes 6 to hang. I don't know why BM won't tell us how many death eaters are still alive, but I know that my dying and going to night phase is about the worst thing that can happen for town.

So I'm going to propose an alternative. I am able to create a situation that proves beyond all doubt that I am town aligned, but it comes at significant cost to the town. I believe this cost will be less than if I am lynched (though it's pretty close), so I am presenting it as an option. This will at least maintain that it is day so that Amber[Light] can still be lynched.

So if you've voted for me in the voting thread, unvote. If you wish to cast your 'vote' for me, do it here in this thread. Obviously if I am lying and it comes down to the wire, you can still lynch me at the end of the day, but don't let Amber[Light] swing it so easily with the massive MoM voting power.

I'm still not convinced Amber[Light] is truthful about being Harry Potter. But if we become convinced of this we do need to find alternatives to hang.

I don't understand why no one has pointed this out, but if Amber[Light] was placed under an Imperious Curse, the role block could have been targeted elsewhere without Amber[Light] knowing about it. This is what I was referring to here.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 19:31 GMT

#912

On June 30 2010 04:26 Amber[LighT] wrote:
The problem is there was a serious miscommunication between whether Abenson casted an AK curse, and whether protego is affected by expelliarmus.

The question I have for you YI, is are you in fact a medic? Your life is at risk regardless... who are you?

I did cast protego last night. If that can't be role blocked for some inexplicable reason, this game is even more ridiculously whack. But I think it's fair to say that protego can be role blocked.

Note also that this is why I asked you to make a full role claim. The only way that this situation could have occurred with you being town that I can see is that you were placed under an Imperious Curse. This means that the Death Eaters already know all your powers since they got to select from them, so you may as well share it with the town. The forcing of a name claim also allows for a counter claim should you be lying scum.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 19:34 GMT

#915

On June 30 2010 04:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
i think its ridiculous to be under the imperious curse without being told by the mod you were

It says right in the description of the Imperious Curse that the target will not be aware.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 19:36 GMT

#917

On June 30 2010 04:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Amber hush....If yellowink can infact prove he is townie he needs too. If Amber is imperius'd that would explain a lot...BUT that would be bringing in a whole other factor that I highly doubt occured...And Harry was almost completely resistant to being Imperious cursed...

I find it unlikely that Harry could be Imperious Cursed. This is why I am not convinced of Amber[Light]'s claim. But... hard to say for sure.

Thus discussion should be open for who else to potentially hang. I think, however, that Amber[Light] will remain the best target even if it's not 100%.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 19:42 GMT

#922

On June 30 2010 04:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Show nested quote +

So you are medic? Who are you?

I don't think that mass role claim is the best strategy. At least not yet.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 19:55 GMT

#929

On June 30 2010 04:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Show nested quote +

Then please post one. I asked for your name, NOT your role. Now please post or I'll let Amber run the death train into your hood. Honestly, I took my vote off you to stall til later, and I'm still not that convinced of your innocence. So please convince me.

If I get hung, all will be made clear. Furthermore, everyone who voted for me should then be hung since you denied me the town beneficial maneuver that I have claimed. Be sure that if you want to 'vote' for me to do so in this thread and I will take that under advisement. Threats do not help your case.

YellowInk

United States578 Posts

June 29 2010 20:03 GMT

#932

On June 30 2010 04:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Amber, since you're a jack, you're going to protect me tonight (if you live). Yellowink, if you're a medic, your going to protect me. (if you live).

If Amber lives and I die, he's mafia. If I live in the morning, his alignment should be easily ascertained. Gilaboy, or myself will know.

I say if, because one of you is going to die.

Why?

If Amber[Light] really is Harry Potter and I really am town aligned and Harry really did get Imperious Cursed (or BM posts that protego somehow protects against role blocks as AL suggested might be possible), what is wrong with this picture?

What is a jack and how does this protect you?