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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 15 2010 10:00 Foolishness wrote: Yeah...I remember last time I tried to pull off a vote switch as mafia only half my team showed up for it... ##Slap foolishness | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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AcrossFiveJulys
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 if you had been more active we wouldn't have gone for you.but fuck yea on the opz modkill lol... very strange... | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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MooCow investigates Flamewheel Ludwig investigates redtooth Meeple watches Flamewheel Medic flips a coin to protect MooCow or Meeple (if ludwig dies and flips town we pretty know MooCow is mafia, otherwise we all suspect ludwig) Hatter plants bomb on whomever they choose besides the above people Flamewheel/redtooth: it's very important that you say if you got roleblocked. If one of you lies, we can kill both you and the detective who investigated you in order reduce the mafia count to 1. People like? | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 15 2010 10:32 Foolishness wrote: I think it's better DTs check the same person. If we kill said person, then both DTs will probably know their alignment afterwards (not for certain, depends on the person and the results returned). If we do your plan, and split the DTs up. Say one of them turns up mafia and we kill them. Regardless of their actual alignment, only ONE detective is going to know their alignment, and the other one will still be clueless. Assuming of course both DTs are actually DTs and not something else. The problem is that if we stack DT checks, the roleblocker (if he's pretending to be detective, which seems likely) can get away with not being detected. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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Thinking.... | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 15 2010 10:48 Foolishness wrote: If we have both DTs check the same person, and kill that person, we can nearly figure out both their alignments. This would immensely help prove you innocent as well (assuming you are). Don't you want to be confirmed innocent? That's only going to help if the role check(s) come back red. That plan is fine to fall back on if we can't construct a more elaborate one that will give us juicy information. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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Given that we don't know whether to trust our detectives, let's have them role check each other. Meeple watches MooCow. Possible scenarios: Meeple gets role blocked If there is a mafia faking detective, our legit detective will get a red role check back on the other detective (assuming he's not naive). Lynch the red detective, if he flips green, lynch the other detective. Mafia down to 1. Wham bam thank you maam! MooCow gets role blocked (or fakes it) Meeple will observe who roleblocked him Ludwig gets role blocked (or fakes it) MooCow can tell us what he got back for ludwig's alignment. If it's red, lynch ludwig. The medic should flip a coin whether to protect MooCow or Meeple given we are quite suspicious of ludwig right now. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On June 15 2010 10:57 MooCow wrote: Why does it only help if the RC comes back red? We chose someone that we want to lynch in advance and no matter what the RC comes back as we lynch them to help solve our sanities. I should be somewhat confirmed as green at this point. Just look at my conversations with L and such (including the PM exchange I had with him). So we already know (or heavily suspect from your viewpoint) that of the truth telling detective(s), they are sane or naive. So if we lynch a green role checkee we get no additional information (well, it completely confirms me, but that doesn't seem like the most important information right now given that I'm trusted by most of you guys). | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 16 2010 05:54 MooCow wrote: Yea I must be REALLY bad at this game for citizen ( if he's town ) to want to kill me. I'm not even trying to look like mafia and i'm DT but I still come off as mafia! 2 faces -__-;; T__T. Your posts are just mafiaey. Why do you think I went nuts on you last game lol | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 16 2010 06:37 Foolishness wrote: Check Flamewheel, as planned. If you really really really want to check Chezinu, that's fine too. But don't check anyone else. meeple should probably flip a coin to watch one of the DTs. One of them is likely to get roleblocked. This doesn't put any pressure on our detectives though -- if one of them is the roleblocker, they won't be required to roleblock who they are checking to cover themselves because Meeple won't be watching. The best thing to do here is to have both meeple and ludwig check flamewheel and have meeple watch flamewheel. Then, we ask flamewheel if he got role blocked. If meeple gets roleblocked in this situation, it's going to be pretty obvious that one of our detectives if mafia. If one of the detectives gets roleblocked, we will know for sure that one of our detectives if legit and be able to trust him. MooCow/Ludwig check flamewheel. Meeple watch flamewheel. Hatters/Vig/Medic if you exist do not visit flamewheel. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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[QUOTE]On June 16 2010 06:37 Foolishness wrote: [QUOTE]On June 16 2010 06:13 MooCow wrote: Cool thanks. If one of the detectives gets roleblocked, we will know for sure that one of our detectives if legit and be able to trust him. [/QUOTE] And this is because meeple will see detective A visit flamewheel, which detective A has to be legit because the roleblocker used his roleblock on detective B (or detective B didn't do anything if he's mafia). | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 16 2010 07:28 Foolishness wrote: Except both DTs are clean, so stop being paranoid. Why are you so convinced of this? You really think there is a watcher, a tracker, and 2 detectives in a 17 player game? That seems highly unlikely, so stop being mafia. Jk about the mafia part. I think. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On June 16 2010 07:34 Foolishness wrote: And by the way, to whoever said AFJ is innocence because of his PM convo with L: if you think it's probable MooCow has been lying about being mafia for the past week, who's to say the mafia didn't whip up a PM conversation with L and AFJ? It's a lot easier to put together a PM convo then stage a mafia being DT. You, citi.zen, and I are somewhat trusted at this point, so for now can we work together rather than bantering with each other? I could start pointing out reasons I'm suspicious of you, but you aren't the top of my list, and if I'm at the top of your list, you should consider never playing mafia again if you are town :O | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 16 2010 07:40 Foolishness wrote: It's his second game of mafia you think he'd lie about being DT? I also have inside information about the DT situation which you don't. And yes, you are JK about the mafia part. I'm going to die tonight so you'll see for sure in a few hours. If you have sense in you, you should realize that taking potshots at the DTs because you are soooooo sure they are mafia is not the smart move. The smart move would be to hit among the unconfirmed people first (flamewheel, Chez, redtooth, Radfield), then worry about a DT infiltration. Even if there is a DT infiltration, you hitting the unconfirmed townies is sure to kill one mafia. Bullshit. Forget what I just said about not bantering with you. You just shot up about 6 spots on my list. What insider information could you possibly have that would make you sure that both detectives are legit? I'll answer that for you: it's impossible at this point in the game unless you consider PM conversations with people sufficient evidence with would be retarded. Medic, in case you are tempted, do NOT protect foolishness tonight (he's implying that he wants to be protected by saying he's going to die tonight). You know, L pulled this same trick when he started spouting off bullshit that lynching you is a good idea if I turn up red... he said he had inside information in that PM conversation I had with him and refused to reveal anything about it. It would be exactly an L kind of thing to do to say something like that to make us less suspicious that you're mafia... | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 16 2010 07:50 Foolishness wrote: Where did I say you were mafia or that I thought you were mafia? I mean, if you guys start killing DTs and lose the game or only barely come out victorious, everything I'm saying right now is going to be like "well shit why didn't we listen to this guy". If you guys say MooCow is mafia, I'm going to say it's equally as likely AFJ is mafia, and that's because it is equally as likely. Don't shoot claimed blues where there are inactive townies to kill, that's how mafia win games. Everyone here has played before and should know this fact. No one is saying that we are going to start killing detectives. All we are doing is trying to narrow down their alignments and their trustworthyness through logic. There will be no lynching of detectives unless we are desperate at the end or if there is sufficient evidence to make it 100% that they are mafia. Why are you so reluctant to try to narrow down their trustworthyness, pal? And no, you aren't going to be the one who dies tonight, it's going to be me because I'm one of the few talking sense in this god damn town and the mafia probably thinks I have a blue role (SHOOT ME IM THE MEDIC). | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On June 16 2010 07:50 Foolishness wrote: Where did I say you were mafia or that I thought you were mafia? I mean, if you guys start killing DTs and lose the game or only barely come out victorious, everything I'm saying right now is going to be like "well shit why didn't we listen to this guy". If you guys say MooCow is mafia, I'm going to say it's equally as likely AFJ is mafia, and that's because it is equally as likely. Don't shoot claimed blues where there are inactive townies to kill, that's how mafia win games. Everyone here has played before and should know this fact. No one is saying that we are going to start killing detectives. All we are doing is trying to narrow down their alignments and their trustworthyness through logic. There will be no lynching of detectives unless we are desperate at the end or if there is sufficient evidence to make it 100% that they are mafia. Why are you so reluctant to try to narrow down their trustworthyness, pal? And no, you aren't going to be the one who dies tonight, it's going to be me because I'm one of the few talking sense in this god damn town and the mafia probably thinks I have a blue role (SHOOT ME IM THE MEDIC). And uh... I don't believe for a second that you are the medic. Your "insider" information at best is that you've been talking to meeple. Sweet, meeple is clean. I already knew that. But how could you possibly know that both detectives are legit? You can't. If you are the medic, and somehow the mafia knows this and are going to kill you tonight, how could they have possibly obtained that information? Did you role claim to one of them? If so you better godamn PM me with everyone you role claimed to before the night is over and your death will have been worth it. If you are not in private contact with someone you know to be mafia, why would you risk it and role claim medic NOW? | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
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On June 16 2010 07:58 Foolishness wrote: Okay, citizen says he's shooting MooCow tonight. Anyone who's not meeple or me thinks MooCow is mafia apparently. You see, I'm the one that wants to narrow down their alignments, that's why I'm saying inspect flamewheel, we kill him tomorrow regardless of results. That's figuring out their alignment On the other hand, citizen is over here saying HEY GUYS IM SHOOTING MOOCOW THERES NO WAI I CAN BE WRONG IM ALWAYS RIGHT!!! Yea citi.zen has done a terrible job in this game. OH WAIT HE KILLED THE GODFATHER. and WAIT HE ONLY HAD 1 SHOT HOW THE FUCK IS HE GOING TO KILL MOOCOW TONIGHT? | ||
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