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Chezinu
United States7430 Posts
On June 16 2010 08:02 MooCow wrote: Wow it's really kicking off now! Let's all go mental let's all go mental! ( Useless post  )WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!! THE MAD HATTER IS GOING TO EXPLODE!!! | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
By using the vig shot tonight it means that we lose an entire night and day cycle. Instead of a lynch or lose situation on day 5, it becomes a lynch or lose on day 4. That means we lose a night of medic protection, dt checks, and watchering. Does this at least enter into the decision making process of the night vig shot? I realize you feel quite sure that moocow is mafia, and frankly I think him most likely of our blue claimers to be mafia, and one of the most likely left in the game. Check the thread, I've said it before. But that doesn't mean he should be the first to go. We have other good targets. If you doubt my alignment, at least check with ludwig and meeple. They are our most townie players in my mind, and I've been part of a mini town circle with them since the beginning of the game. Anyways, if you think me scummy, at least drop a shred of evidence my way. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On June 16 2010 08:10 Radfield wrote: I love how I shot up to being number two most likely without a single piece of evidence . Citizen, we've been PMing back and forth but we might as well get this out in the open. Obviously something I said made you think I was mafia, and it's likely the fact that I was saying it's a bad idea to use the vig shot on moocow. By using the vig shot tonight it means that we lose an entire night and day cycle. Instead of a lynch or lose situation on day 5, it becomes a lynch or lose on day 4. That means we lose a night of medic protection, dt checks, and watchering. Does this at least enter into the decision making process of the night vig shot? I realize you feel quite sure that moocow is mafia, and frankly I think him most likely of our blue claimers to be mafia, and one of the most likely left in the game. Check the thread, I've said it before. But that doesn't mean he should be the first to go. We have other good targets. If you doubt my alignment, at least check with ludwig and meeple. They are our most townie players in my mind, and I've been part of a mini town circle with them since the beginning of the game. Anyways, if you think me scummy, at least drop a shred of evidence my way. I agree with radfield that shooting moocow tonight would be hasty. Frankly I suspect ludwig much more than moocow. Let's use the night actions to help narrow down which of them is the bad guy rather than risk wasting our good detective. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Meeple, Ludwig, Citizen, Foolishness and AFJ seem likely to be town at this point. Seems like Foolishness is claiming one of vig or medic, which means we still have one blue among these 5 (assuming AFJ is green) Radfield Flamewheel Moocow Redtooth Chezinu Flamewheel and moocow are going to die soon, which leaves us with redtooth, chez and myself. Presumably one of chez or redtooth are the vig(or medic) so the other one is the last mafia. This of course hinges on whether or not people believe I am a townie. I imagine people at the center of the town circle have all this info though, which means we should have this game in the bag unless citizen or AFJ have duped us. Thoughts? Corrections? | ||
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MooCow
1434 Posts
I'm sure most of the people would trust citizen and AFJ a lot more than the others. My trust list would be AFJ and citizen. My suspicious list Meeple LuDwig ( not very suspicious of him but wary ) Redtooth ( he's so inactive 7 posts in the game so far ) Radfield Flamewheel I'm not sure of Chez so far but let's not kill him and keep him for the lols~ | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On June 14 2010 01:17 Radfield wrote: I think lynching moocow right now is premature. If he's telling the truth then we hurt ourselves doubly: the loss of a town aligned player, and giving the mafia less blue targets to shoot at. I realize that by focusing on AFJ today we're kind of giving the less active players a pass. But we can focus on them tomorrow. I'd like to know the opinions on whom we should lynch from these people: Vivi57 citi.zen Foolishness redtooth RebirthOfLeGend I'd like to hear everyone else's opinion as well, but these 5 are a bit on the inactive side. Pretty weak for someone who is good at this game, but it happens. What's worse is his most recent post of suspects: On June 15 2010 11:17 Radfield wrote: I agree 100% with foolishness. By having our dt's check the same person, and then subsequently killing that person, we should be able to get very close to figuring out the sanities. I also think that the results should not be made public, and should be pm'ed to two people before having the results released. My absence is due to exceeding our bandwidth limit and basically getting cut off for 24 hrs. Our speed drops to almost zero, and sometimes doesn't work at all. These are our remaining players Claimed Blue Meeple Ludwig Moocow Not very suspicious at the moment Foolishness Citizen AcrossFiveJulys Mildly Suspicious Chezinu Flamewheel Redtooth People can slot me in wherever they think I belong. Personally I find moocow to be more suspicious then ludwig, but I think it possible that both are legit dt's. Very likely one is naive if that's the case. It's still premature to start offing the blues though. Despite the fact we have 2 mafia down, losing 3 greens today seriously hurts us. Day 5 is lynch or lose at this point, assuming no medic saves or vets. Personally I find redtooth the most suspicious of those three, Chez second, Flamewheel third. Note the odd organization, then read the translation: don't touch blues (hi Moocow!); suspect everyone, even confirmed townies; and lynch... Chez, Flamewheel or RedTooth. Yet in a PM he sent me after this forum post he still advocated lynching... A5J. + Show Spoiler + ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Your probably right, I'm just having a difficult time shaking the thought that he's mafia. Also, I've been kind of assuming that we have either an insane or a naive dt. Because otherwise town would be a bit overpowered at this point. I do think it's valuble to determine the sanity, but given that we're running out of time, I doubt we'll be able to do much with our dt('s) anyways. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: On A5J - do you really think his PM with L is staged? And their thread conversations? I've never seen a mafia team put that much effort into a risky strategy like that. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Honestly, if I could take anyone out with a night vig shot it would be AFJ. I'm still moderately skeptical of his posting, as well as the whole roleblocker thing. It also helps us determine alignment of the dt's. Taking out moocow still seems a bit premature, but I'm alright with it if you go for it. I imagine we'll need to eliminate him as some point anyways. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: You're right, he seems very sketchy. I have a night vigilante I am talking to. I will ask them to take MooCow out tonight. Thanks! ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I'm a townie. I don't particularly trust moocow. I DO trust both ludwig and meeple. Don't tell moocow anything more than he needs to know. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Please let me know what you think of MooCow. An honest list of suspects looks like this: Confirmed townies: Myself. Foolishness. Meeple. A5J. Browns: Chez. Flamewheel. Others: Radfield MooCow RedTooth Ludwig- Radfield wants RedTooth dead. Ludwig- seems Ok. Leaving... Radfield and MooCow. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
Though citizen, I really would swap your suspicion of moocow with Ludwig. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I still agree with leaving the blues for now, it's premature to kill them off. I did not advocate lynching AFJ, I advocated vigging him. There is a subtle difference there. The reason I advocated vigging him is because we wouldn't be able to get a lynch going on him given that most people think he is town aligned. I am still mildly suspicious, and he does lead us towards our dt's sanities, which is a good thing. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 16 2010 08:42 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Can't believe he asked you to get ME shot, wow... yeah, radfield is either very dumb or very mafia. Btw, the last person I said that about was L in my PM conversation with him. Though citizen, I really would swap your suspicion of moocow with Ludwig. The fact of the matter is, you had and have a lot of scummy stuff going for you. However, if you asked me right now if you're town or not, I'd probably say you're town. I tried hard to get you lynched, and surely you understand that I'm still hoping you're mafia, because it makes me right. Unfortunately I was probably wrong about you. The part Citizen didn't post was that first and foremost I advocated not vigging anyone. What can I say though, you've been on my mind this game, and none of the other targets have really done much at all to warrant attention. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + :D | ||
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Chezinu
United States7430 Posts
On June 16 2010 08:57 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Don't worry radfield, citizen was probably just bluffing about being in contact with a vigi. + Show Spoiler + :D Yeah... it's probably just a joke... + Show Spoiler + 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+ Show Spoiler + 64-D-H-64 | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
I am going to stop, so I don't "dominate the debate" and other people can slowly figure this out too. Or not. Either way I did my part. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
That's like, saying that Kwanro threw a match because he used ultras late game vs. mech. =D Can we like, not analyze my comments? >.< I would've posted this regardless of whether Radfield was town or mafia. It was just a poke fun at him never getting to late game. I will stop now to stop the confusion, sorry. :< | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On June 16 2010 09:40 citi.zen wrote: Look, Radfield is red. If meeple and Foolish trust him, so much the worse. I am going to stop, so I don't "dominate the debate" and other people can slowly figure this out too. Or not. Either way I did my part. As long as flamewheel dies today I got no qualms. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 16 2010 09:40 citi.zen wrote: Look, Radfield is red. If meeple and Foolish trust him, so much the worse. I am going to stop, so I don't "dominate the debate" and other people can slowly figure this out too. Or not. Either way I did my part. ugh The worst part is that when you find out I'm green, you're still going to think you're justified here. Basically you're entire case against me is that I'm saying not to use the vig hit on moocow tonight, and that I thought AFJ was somewhat suspicious. I've been very clear about my actions this game, and as far as I can tell, it's only you and AFJ that find me suspicious. There are a few ways in mafia to be sure of something. I'm 100% sure that you have none of those on me. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.prairiepanorama.com/assets/images/NPL-1089---After-the-Storm-.jpg) Day 3 The thunderstorm passed and the sky cleared as dawn broke. The citizens clustered around the town hall, wanting to know who was the unfortunate victim of the mafia last night. Slowly, everyone gathered around. citi.zen did a head count... there were 10 people there. Everyone breathed a sigh of relief... and then resumed their angry accusations at each other once more. =P | ||
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MooCow
1434 Posts
I got my PM for Flamewheel. How do you guys want to do this? | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On June 16 2010 10:15 flamewheel wrote: Guys, I just got a PM. I was roleblocked during the night. HAHA | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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