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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 28 2010 01:38 GMT
#1681
Bill is older, Abenson I would place at 15
Adonai bless
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 28 2010 01:47 GMT
#1682
On May 28 2010 10:03 Caller wrote:
lu bu lost his powers because diao chan visited him night 1 LOL

LOL LU BU GOT SOME THEN GOT LAZY.

YOU CALLER ACTION LIST PLZ.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 28 2010 02:26 GMT
#1683
On May 28 2010 08:05 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 04:58 DarthThienAn wrote:
On May 28 2010 03:40 Fishball wrote:
On May 27 2010 21:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
I think it was all about charisma and public conception; I still recall how most people were skeptical of my plan until Lost Romantic and L was caught consecutively. If that had not happened I don't think enough people would have got behind the plan for neutral victory to work. Honestly most people came into this game expecting faction fight, so turning people against it initially was the hardest task- which is why I over-villainized faction leaders day 1 immediately after Caller threw out some fuel to work with. After THAT post no one was going to openly support the idea of faction fight (even neutrals since their primary goal is to survive, which is not going against town's consensus naturally does. And no leader would have recruited the neutral who planted target on himself.) I would have immediately taken the risk, reveal myself to the first recruit (mouthpiece was necessary to organize future recruits after all) and appease him/her as best as I can lol.

Yellow Turban, because its members could not be recruited, was closest to the actual cult and could have been very powerful had not Trezquet23 drew so much suspicion to himself. If you knew you were going to get checked I would definitely have sent him PM in advance that I was recruiting him. 'Appease' is key word here- when idea of neutral victory got dominant the power balance between recruiter and neutrals got reversed. There seem to be plenty of opinions who said this was not the game was meant to be played so if you were nice about it, I think people would have been acceptable. Hell, L even said "lol your plan sucks b/c this" and I still tried my hardest to save him before giving up for moral victory. I am especially curious after knowing Fishball's ability why he gave up- Fishball was seen as pro-town by day 2~3, so if he worked to keep people away from suspecting his true ability, BC could potentially have lived just enough to make it.

My theorycraft best plan for the what leaders should have done

1) Have the recruited members contact me or L. Set up an alliance whose conduit will be recruited members so that faction leaders identity can necessarily be kept secret. I had idea about using anonymous quickboard.

2) Role-claim wisely. I did it several times as Mafia and it isn't that hard -_- Almost all leaders got caught because of that. Fishball also needed to fake-role/nameclaim so BC's strength became that much stronger.

3) BC publicly claims himself as faction leader, or deliberately give off an "scumslip". Use all three faction members to spread ideas that BC must be lynched.

BC survives. 3 people recruited night 2, L is protected (by me) and BC is immune.


You really think 4 different leaders would agree on this ? Even if they do, the "recruited members" might not even listen to the leaders. Hell they could even reveal X/Y/Z is the leader to the public.

As for role claiming, that was pretty bad. BC's role claim wasn't exactly what I told him to say and I was face palm all over when I saw it. He literally said it doesn't matter as he can't die if I was still alive, and could literally stand out and claim leader. On the other hand, I was pushing for the concede while waiting for Caller's reply, so yeah.

Also keep in mind, role claiming in Mafia and role claiming in this game is totally different. If you don't have good knowledge about Three Kingdoms, the characters names and their role abilities you claim might not make sense to those who actually know about the history. I doubt most of you could come up with a Meng Huo role, (which actually existed in game). I mean small things like L's Sun Ren name claim, and Trez's Cao Pi ability claim, makes zero sense.


I think you guys could have won.. all you to do was recruit me and/or BrownBear, and then Radfield and tell us. I would have switched loyalty immediately - dunno about BrownBear - and could easily have said, "oh Fishball is neutral".

It might have been tough if Falcynn came back and started being active and watched the right people. You had to get BrownBear after me though for the KP - he might have been a sacrificial lamb at some point, but there was no way you would get him with a day lynch, until you guys were dominating.

If you didn't recruit me or BB that night it would have been a toss-up, because, if the town agreed to kill BC and check you (Fishball), then BB and I were planning or switching anyway lol. So BC would have been dead the next day.


Your ideas are based on the assumption that we know for sure you will remain loyal to us. Given the two live examples in game, I don't think we'll ever even bother to take the chance and waste more time. Even if you publicly announce "I will remain loyal to whoever recruits me", we still wouldn't budge, as there is literally nothing to backup your statement.

The only way we'll be willing to try, is if the rules are set for your to remain loyal. You remember at the very beginning when I questioned the rules regarding this? That was before I was Shu, when I was still neutral. I was simply questioning the flaws of the rules at that time, and it was the exact same flaw that hit us at the end.

Also, I don't quite get this.

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On May 28 2010 04:58 DarthThienAn wrote:
If you didn't recruit me or BB that night it would have been a toss-up, because, if the town agreed to kill BC and check you (Fishball), then BB and I were planning or switching anyway lol. So BC would have been dead the next day.


What do you mean BC would have been dead the next day? BC can't die even if a nuclear bomb went off. As long as I'm alive, he lives, because I am

[image loading]


yeah, well, I really disagree with people who "stayed" loyal to anything, including the town. Just like you play for the town if you're town and you play for mafia if you're mafia... guess you can't do anything about that one. Personally, if I were hosting, I would have banned Hesmyrr and Tricode for turning on your leaders (but it's not their fault since Caller allowed it), and said that you should play for your own faction. The setup in general had a lot of loopholes.

uhhh, the next day as in Day 4 - you would have died Night 4 by BB, and then I would have had my check to confirm BC as green, so then we would lynch him.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 28 2010 02:27 GMT
#1684
On May 28 2010 10:01 Abenson wrote:
I'm actually younger than you probably think ;P


I treat everyone on TL as ageless o.O.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 28 2010 02:40 GMT
#1685
I'm 24.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 02:42:50
May 28 2010 02:42 GMT
#1686
On May 28 2010 10:30 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 10:01 Abenson wrote:
I'm actually younger than you probably think ;P


uh yea between you and BM I figured neither of you are over 14

and thats my overestimation ^_^


I find this to show immaturity more than anything I've ever done. I'm not judgmental.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 28 2010 05:19 GMT
#1687
Just like you play for the town if you're town and you play for mafia if you're mafia... guess you can't do anything about that one.
We typically banned any player that gave up their team in a fit of rage. Why that isnt' being done here is probably because the teams weren't permanent.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 28 2010 05:41 GMT
#1688
On May 28 2010 14:19 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
Just like you play for the town if you're town and you play for mafia if you're mafia... guess you can't do anything about that one.
We typically banned any player that gave up their team in a fit of rage. Why that isnt' being done here is probably because the teams weren't permanent.


Yeah, that's what I meant when I said the setup had loopholes. Still, I'd understand it if they had been recruited to another faction, and THEN turned on their old leaders. But no, they just straight up turned on their current leaders lol... that part of the whole thing was what I disliked.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 28 2010 06:19 GMT
#1689
On May 28 2010 10:03 Caller wrote:
lu bu lost his powers because diao chan visited him night 1 LOL

Fucking that's why you said "LOL!" in the pm....THEN HE FUCKING DIED?! Arghh I was unkillable! Dammit!!

Could BM of killed me by day lynch? "Incompetent general"?

And thanks for hosting...It was very entertaining.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 28 2010 06:21 GMT
#1690
I was staying loyal to the "town" for as long as I was neutral...Lol....I'd of jumped ship.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 08:58:57
May 28 2010 08:58 GMT
#1691
no way in hell did i envision this going the way it did
i was like 90% sure i was a YT
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 28 2010 20:58 GMT
#1692
I was prepared to join whatever side recruited me the instant they got me as well :O
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 28 2010 20:58 GMT
#1693
On May 28 2010 10:38 XeliN wrote:
Bill is older, Abenson I would place at 15


How'd you guess? O.O
Yea, I'm 15
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 28 2010 21:21 GMT
#1694
Don't look out your window xD
Adonai bless
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 28 2010 21:42 GMT
#1695
On May 28 2010 14:19 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
Just like you play for the town if you're town and you play for mafia if you're mafia... guess you can't do anything about that one.
We typically banned any player that gave up their team in a fit of rage. Why that isnt' being done here is probably because the teams weren't permanent.

I'm guessing it's partially that and partially because this game was run outside the ban list. Caller didn't complain, so I'm just not going to worry about it.
Uff Da
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 28 2010 22:30 GMT
#1696
I tried to patch up the situation and failed because I forgot XeliN roleblocked me
Don't know why Tricode played the way he did... or trez... w/e
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 28 2010 22:41 GMT
#1697
On May 29 2010 06:42 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 14:19 L wrote:
Just like you play for the town if you're town and you play for mafia if you're mafia... guess you can't do anything about that one.
We typically banned any player that gave up their team in a fit of rage. Why that isnt' being done here is probably because the teams weren't permanent.

I'm guessing it's partially that and partially because this game was run outside the ban list. Caller didn't complain, so I'm just not going to worry about it.

Kinda figured as much otherwise I woulda made a stink about LR's after death post.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 28 2010 23:03 GMT
#1698
I wasn't entirely sure initially Bill as I in fact PM'd Caller requesting to change my Roleblock to Fishball, and he didn't reply so wasn't entirely sure it was on you. The way you acted after though kinda made it seem like you were lying so I stuck with it thinking you would crack.
Adonai bless
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 29 2010 09:14 GMT
#1699
I wasn't 100% sure I was even YT
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 29 2010 09:15 GMT
#1700
I did it in response to Caller's post where he said he was going to have to make random uprisings or some shit
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
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