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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 15 2010 07:07 GMT
#126
Signup. Hope I am not late.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 18 2010 06:45 GMT
#239
There is a huge bandwagon going on. But where are the other votes.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 18 2010 09:53 GMT
#243
Yeah, this thread encourages posters to lie. All posts except the first post is can be a lie. This is what Mafia type games are all about.

THIS POST IS NOT A LIE.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 18 2010 23:29 GMT
#322
Lets see when happen after day 1.

Can't we all agree on eliminating Yellow Turban as our first priority and then we can have a more fair game with three faction leaders trying to accomplish their goals.

As a neutral, I want to play a fair game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 18 2010 23:54 GMT
#327
On May 19 2010 08:52 johnnyspazz wrote:
i think the game is over once there's only one faction left regardless of neutral members...right?

Seems about right. Caller did not include a team victory for townee.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 19 2010 03:01 GMT
#349
On May 19 2010 11:16 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 09:48 Fishball wrote:
Just a side note, I personally think it would be more interesting if the players would be forced to stick with their leaders who recruited them till the end. At least there is (false?)sense of loyalty there, as that would be the one and only faction you will be trying to help to win.

Kinda curious though, based on our current scenario. If a leader recruits a DT or Assassin, he/she doesn't know what he/she recruited. The DT/Assassin also doesn't know he/she has been recruited. Now lets say the DT uses their abilities on player X. Player X comes out as Zhao Yun. Ok great, you've found Zhao Yun, but what does that means to you? What should you do? Tell your leader? You don't even know who that person is. Tell the general public? For what? He might even be on your faction already. Same thing can be applied to the assassin. What is the purpose of using your ability? Unless you just want to randomly kill people, there really isn't any "purpose" in general.


Did I miss something here? How do we know that there are DTs and Assassins in this game? Was this all just hypothetical? If so, what's the point?

Wow, that is a very sneaky way to ask question. How would people answer your question without giving too much information about themselves. But by this, I am pretty sure that you are a major player (either Yellow Turban or a faction leader).
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 19 2010 04:29 GMT
#354
On May 19 2010 12:55 Scamp wrote:
Yeah but why expect roles like all the other mafia games when this one is clearly different?

Also I'm totally a major player in this game. My questions are simply way too sneaky.

Then shouldn't you be staying low. A page back, people were talking about killing the big 4 and having a townee victory.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 19 2010 16:31 GMT
#373
On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general.


Strong Town read.
Town read.
Town.
What town?

Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game?

From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 19 2010 22:52 GMT
#456
Give us the result man. Finally something concrete is happening.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 19 2010 23:06 GMT
#459
If you want to waste the kill, sure.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 20 2010 00:31 GMT
#470
Does the battleground being Luo Yang is a clue Caller is giving? Cao Cao resides in Chen Lou or Xu Chang. If that is so, then RadField couldn't have been:

Yellow Turban who resides in Ping Yuan which is in the opposite direction
Sun Jian (Wu) who resides in southern China
Liu Bei (Shu) who resides in South West China

If Caller is writing with logic, then Radfield should be a townie.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 20 2010 03:09 GMT
#487
And here I thought Last Romantic didn't care about the game and thus did nothing.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 20 2010 08:42 GMT
#507
So there is a few possible starting combination for Yellow Turban:
1)3 recruiter (Zhang Jiao, Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang), 0 other member [3/0]
2)1 recruiter (Zhang Jiao), 0 other member [1/0]
3)1 recruiter (Zhang Jiao), 2 other members (Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang) [1/2]

The reason behind it is not likely for 2/0 and 2/1 combination is that Zhang Bao and Zhang Liang are the younger brother of Zhang Jiao. Although Zhang Bao is the 2nd brother and Zhang Liang being the youngest, they both are equal in rank and significance to the Yellow Turban Revolution. This means that Caller can not favor either younger brothers by giving them different ranks.

If Yellow Turban does start off with more than one person then it would be 3/0 or 1/2.
If it starts off with the 3/0 then it would be too imbalance.
So my conclusion is the 1/2 formation of 1 recruiter and 2 members.

This is all based off of Caller knowing his ROTK facts...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 01:48 GMT
#553
On May 21 2010 10:24 BrownBear wrote:
LU BU WILL HAVE NONE OF THIS NONSENSE.

But yeah. I wonder what Diao Chan's power was, because my Three Kingdoms knowledge is limited to Dynasty Warriors... :D

Also, Trezeguet23... no offense but I'd rather we give the power of voting to someone who's contributed a little bit more, not just a lurker. It's a good incentive to get people to contribute, plus, we should be giving the vote to people we can analyze so that we can be reasonably sure they're neutral and not a faction-aligned person hiding amongst the inactives.

Dian Chan is a fictional character created by the author of ROTK. She is characterize as a double agent who turned Lu Bu against Dong Zhuo and also a female who brings bad luck to she mate (Lu Bu).

She disappeared after Dong Zhuo was killed by Lu Bu. One other variation describes that it is Guan Yu who killed her under the crescent moon (關羽月下斬貂蟬)

On May 20 2010 14:18 johnnyspazz wrote:
ok ill let you know if i'm still neutral by the end of tonight cause i want to kill someone for fun

Did you do that?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 01:50 GMT
#555
Hey, I know shit about Mafia since this is the first time I am playing. The wiki doesn't help since this game is so different. But I can explain the ROTK pretty well.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 03:14 GMT
#562
Do you guy realize that the death of Dian Chan is very bad to us neutrals. According to ROTK, Dian Chan brings the death to her lord. I am guessing that her side winning condition is the death of her recruiter.

That aside. If Tricode is telling the truth that he know the name of a faction leader, then he should be some kind of detective role. This makes him a prime target for the remaining faction leaders and he could be killed very soon. If we lose this chance of letting him kill a faction leader, then he could be dead the next day. Again, all based on the fact Tricode is telling the truth.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 03:41 GMT
#564
What the hell is 2 Night Lives? He has 2 hp and needed to be killed twice? If so, then LR is only half dead.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 05:48 GMT
#605
Either Tricode or L is lying here, but L is a much sneakier player...

By giving Tricode the power to try to kill L:
1)L turns out to be a faction leader and we all benefit (except L and the dude he recruited)

2)L turns out to be a non faction leader and non Yellow Turban. Tricode is lying and he becomes our prime target which doesn't benefit Tricode at all.

3)Then there's the possibility of L being protected again which will make it clear that he is a faction leader/leader of Yellow Turban, is in a faction or Yellow Turban, or he is a medic that protected himself.

In every cases, that is much better than our current plan of giving a random person the power to kill.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 17:29 GMT
#641
As it now stands, the only other person who voted for L except L himself is DarthThienAn.

DarthThienAn, can you explain why you vote for L?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 17:46 GMT
#649
I have a question. Is Lynching an absolute kill in Mafia? Can a medic protect against the lynch. If so, then it would be damn hard to kill a leader with medic protecting him every turn.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 18:23 GMT
#670
Hmm... if we switch our votes to L and let him kill L, we get very little out of it.

But if Tricode is telling the truth and L is a faction leader. We could eliminate a factor leader which worth much more. If Tricode is lying, we just kill him day after.

Something to consider is how valuable of L is to us. L is in a lot of risk of being lynch and he should tell us his role and what he did with his ability.

I can't believe him if he stays in the dark.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 18:54 GMT
#687
Man these guys have such kickass roles. Someone want to summarize what claim each person made and we can find the contradictories.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 18:56 GMT
#689
Tricode, since you already claim yourself to be a dt. Would you mind tell us your character's name since hiding that is useless to you.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 19:06 GMT
#705
Hmm, one of L's very first post after he was accused said a medic messaged him saying that he protected L from being killed.

So the question is: who is the medic?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 19:09 GMT
#709
Again Tricode, give us your character name.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 19:29 GMT
#730
Ok Lu Meng, here goes.

Lu Meng started as a uneducated general serving Wu (吳下阿蒙). After Zhou Yu's death, Wu was short in tacticians. Sun Quan told Lu Meng and a less important general Jiang Qin to study literature. After 3 days, they both became very intelligent (士别三日, 刮目相看).

Lu Meng is famous for the death of Guan Yu. What happened was, Lu Meng faked sickness and sent a message to Guan Yu. Guan Yu got little bit over confident thinking that Wu would not attack him since Lu Meng is sick. Guan Yu then goes on attacking Wei's city guarded by Cao Ren and kicking Cao Ren's ass badly. Lu Meng, with a huge army, shows up surprising Guan Yu.

Now Guan Yu is trapped in between Cao Ren and Lu Meng. What worse is that Lu Meng brought family members of Guan Yu's solders which made many Guan Yu's soldiers and two generals (Mi Fang and Fu Shi Ren defected. Guan Yu, ultimately ran out of food supply and surrendered. Guan Yu refused to surrender and was killed. Lu Meng also died shortly after (within a year I think).


From all this, Lu Meng could be an insane dt since he is stupid in his early days. And I have to point out that Lu Meng lied to Guan Yu which caused Guan Yu's death.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 19:32 GMT
#734
Oh, to Tricode's defence, Lu Meng is one the of best general in ROTK and he became a decent scholar after studying hard for 3 days (why I can't do that in real life).
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 19:38 GMT
#738
Well, Zhuge Liang is famous for out smarting his opponent.

But yeah. Although Sima Yi is Wei's top tactician, He scouted out many famous general for Wei.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 19:41 GMT
#741
Tricode, Lu Meng only became smart at mid 20s. Before that, he don't even know he is a dumbass.

Well, Caller might not follow the novel/history 100%. So we still have to find out who is lying.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 19:42 GMT
#742
On May 22 2010 04:40 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 04:38 LunarDestiny wrote:
Well, Zhuge Liang is famous for out smarting his opponent.

But yeah. Although Sima Yi is Wei's top tactician, He scouted out many famous general for Wei.


Seriously I have no idea what you're talking about here. Is the movie/game/book/ or w/e that good? Like which do you recommend and if you refer me the game which system please lol?

For ease, just check the wiki.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 20:29 GMT
#758
There still 26 hours left before the deadline. We have to figure shit out first.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 20:54 GMT
#765
Damn, another roleblocker. If things aren't complicant already...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 22:20 GMT
#790
Bah, I am that fat ass Xu Zhu of Wei.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 22:24 GMT
#795
Who the fuck is Sun Ren?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 22:25 GMT
#796
L, do you know the chinese name for your dude?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 22:36 GMT
#805
Hmm... that leads me asking the question: Why did Caller gave L a character in her other name (子) (think middle name)

We all got the our characters in last name then first name.
ex. Zhao Yun(趙雲) and not Zhao Zi Long(趙子龍)
me Xu Zhu(許褚) and not Xu Zhòng kāng(許仲康)
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 22:47 GMT
#811
On May 22 2010 07:41 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 07:36 LunarDestiny wrote:
Hmm... that leads me asking the question: Why did Caller gave L a character in her other name (子) (think middle name)

We all got the our characters in last name then first name.
ex. Zhao Yun(趙雲) and not Zhao Zi Long(趙子龍)
me Xu Zhu(許褚) and not Xu Zhòng kāng(許仲康)

Fishball gave you the name for Sun Shangxian. Not Sun Ren. Sun Ren is 孫仁.

She has a different name in ROTK, afaik.

No man, in ROTK, the chinese novel, she is called 孫夫人.

Direct Link Here

Website who hosts the novel here
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 23:08 GMT
#830
Yes, Lady Sun, Sun Xiang Shang, and Sun Ren are the same person.

But the question I am asking is Sun Ren is a very less used name for her. I played tons of ROTK games, watch tons of ROTK related films, and read the novel and I still don't know when I first saw Sun Ren.


That aside, giving the recruiters the list of names could have very bad in the late game. Well, I already gave mine so there is no turning back.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 23:34 GMT
#840
It seems that BrownBear's vote is growing. So BrownBear, do you have any idea who is your target or are we doing it by votes.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 23:39 GMT
#842
So if you lynch Tricode and he dies. Will Caller tell us if he is sane or not?

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 23:41 GMT
#844
Then what will we react if Caller said Tricode the detective was lynched and dies.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 23:55 GMT
#852
Trezeguet probably say his ability because Cao Pi succeeded Cao Cao after he died. And remember that annoying "wei has fallen... for now"
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2010 23:56 GMT
#854
Damn, I never thought I am playing Fucked Up Three Kingdoms Mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:12 GMT
#871
I am serious against the idea of Lynching Tricode as it gives us very little information at all.

I ask the question again: You lynch Tricode tomorrow and he turns out to be dt (no alignment check, no sanity check). Then what now? Is L telling the truth or lying?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:14 GMT
#874
I purpose to lynch one of the inactive or lurker and have someone else check on Tricode (dt or yellow turban killer Absence)
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:15 GMT
#875
DarthThienAn, from what information you have that you know Tricode is bsing when he first claim L as a faction leader?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:22 GMT
#883
LOL Hesmyrr, DarthThienAn just called you trustworthy and now you against him. Nothing against you, but DarthThienAn trolled us about his role a page ago and still refuse to tell us his character name (or did he already and I missed it)
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:26 GMT
#888
On May 22 2010 09:25 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 09:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
LOL Hesmyrr, DarthThienAn just called you trustworthy and now you against him. Nothing against you, but DarthThienAn trolled us about his role a page ago and still refuse to tell us his character name (or did he already and I missed it)


I told you, I'm Zhou Jie Lun.

FUCK YOU MAN. Stop trolling about that damn chinese/taiwan singer. Give us your real character name or just say you don't want to.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:29 GMT
#890
Your refusal to cooperate is making you very suspicious.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:31 GMT
#896
No Falcynn. Now DarthTheinAn is claiming to be another damn chinese actor.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 00:37 GMT
#905
Ok, I do some history about Wei.

After Cao Cao's death, Cao Pi succeed the throne. Cao Pi died before unifying China. Cao Rui suceeded. He also dies. Cao Fang became the Wei emperor and Sima Yi revolt against Cao Fang and took control of Wei.

Also Sima Yi's decedent Sima Yan united China.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 01:32 GMT
#924
Wow, Fishball got a baller roll. If that is true, we should give Fishball our army everyday after we do a rolecheck on him to confirm it.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 01:45 GMT
#932
On May 22 2010 10:40 Fishball wrote:
I can be recruited, but I get to escape the next cycle if I wanted.
Uses, of course, is limited, so no, I'm not perma-neutral.


How many uses there is/are? Please say 6 (hence the term 七擒七縱孟獲)
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 01:49 GMT
#935
On May 22 2010 10:47 Fishball wrote:
After reading so many pages regarding our current situation, I'd still say stick with Tricode's original proposal, then kill Tricode if things did not go as planned.

I DON'T CARE who is lying. It is all a distraction. Just kill them one by one if need be.

Sad to say for such reckless plan, I agree. At least it gives us a decent chance of killing a faction leader which benefit all of us except for the faction leader and his recruits.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 02:30 GMT
#944
johnnyspazz, mind giving us your character name (not role just name)
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 02:34 GMT
#946
Hesmyrr, what ever you do please do not roleblock on Tricode or L since people will be doing investigation on them.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 02:47 GMT
#951
Updating the chart made by Radfield:

OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
10. BloodyCobbler (his absence from all of this is actually kinda confusing)
11. MyHeroNoob
24. Jugan
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 02:48 GMT
#953
Updating the chart made by Radfield:

OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
11. MyHeroNoob
24. Jugan
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 04:06 GMT
#964
So much drama already at day 2...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 04:07 GMT
#965
And holy shit:
Posts made in the last week: 85
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:01 GMT
#984
Updating the chart made by Radfield:

OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
10. BloodyCobbler (his absence from all of this is actually kinda confusing)
24. Jugan
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:02 GMT
#985
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:08 GMT
#986
Made a mistake in the list
Updating the chart made by Radfield:

OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
11. MyHeroNoob
24. Jugan

Contradiction:
DarthTheinAn claims Ma Chao first (after five page of trolling us)
TwoToneTerran claims he is Ma Chao
DarthTheinAn responds that he is fishing

On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,

I'm Ma Chao.

sup yo.


If you are Ma Chao, what's your power?

Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is.

Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao.

Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of.

At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying.


Yeah I was just fishing ^^.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:25 GMT
#988
Updating the chart made by Radfield:

OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
11. MyHeroNoob
24. Jugan

Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
HyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)

2)DarthTheinAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthTheinAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)


On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.

Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.

I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment.

On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here.

cos thats my character, meng huo <_<

On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,

I'm Ma Chao.

sup yo.


If you are Ma Chao, what's your power?

Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is.

Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao.

Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of.

At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying.


Yeah I was just fishing ^^.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:26 GMT
#989
On May 22 2010 18:25 LunarDestiny wrote:
Updating the chart made by Radfield:

OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
24. Jugan

Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)

2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.

Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.

I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:
On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here.

cos thats my character, meng huo <_<

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:
On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,

I'm Ma Chao.

sup yo.


If you are Ma Chao, what's your power?

Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is.

Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao.

Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of.

At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying.


Yeah I was just fishing ^^.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:44 GMT
#995
Now it only takes a dt to rolecheck Fishball and that is answer the question who is lying.

Fishball also said his ability is to escape from recruitment after he was recruited.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:54 GMT
#996
MyHeroNoob, are you really directly quoting from the pm from Caller?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 09:59 GMT
#999
MyHeroNoob, If you really aren't lying, you have to prove your innocence. Is that the entirety of Caller's role pm to you?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 10:04 GMT
#1001
No, I am not saying that MyHeroNoob shouldn't post his role pm here.
I am saying if MyHeroNoob already posted his role pm, he might as well post in its entirety to prove his innocence.

I also recall seeing someone posted his role pm.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 10:27 GMT
#1004
If you refuse to give us your name, trolling only makes you a bigger target.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 13:03 GMT
#1010
OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
24. Jugan

Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)

2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)
DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51)

+ Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] +

On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.

Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.

I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment.

On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here.

cos thats my character, meng huo <_<

+ Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] +
On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,

I'm Ma Chao.

sup yo.


If you are Ma Chao, what's your power?

Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is.

Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao.

Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of.

At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying.


Yeah I was just fishing ^^.


On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote:

To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D.

I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time:

I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o
I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 18:18 GMT
#1042
Yeah, I knew that Sun Ren stuff was bullshit. Now time to get the remiaining 2
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 18:26 GMT
#1046
What is unusual about Fishball and MyHeroNoob both claim Meng Huo and told us that they have similar ability (ability to escape recruitment). The difference between Fishball and MyHeroNoob's claim are:

1)Fishball mentioned he ability has limited use and MyHeroNoob did not say anything about limited use or unlimited use.

2)MyHeroNoob even quoted his role pm or he is making the role pm up.

3) FiahBall claimed Meng Huo first and MyHeroNoob claimed Meng Huosecond

In the case of DarthTheinAn and TwoToneTerran, the former was lying at first about the Ma Chao stuff but switched to Zhou Yu after TwoToneTerran exposed DarthTheinAn.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 18:39 GMT
#1048
That is not what I was saying. That is no evidence that TwoToneTerran is lying.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 18:54 GMT
#1055
For the case of Meng Huo's double claim. At least one of them is telling the truth. The other one... might not be a recruiter. What is bothering me is the remaining people who hasn't nameclaim. I ask one more time, please go forth and name claim.

Remaining 3:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
24. Jugan
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 19:06 GMT
#1061
On May 23 2010 02:42 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 02:23 BrownBear wrote:
Ahh ok, I see now. So L has claimed Trez PMed him about a vig hit, which... is or is not true?

Trezguet, can you weigh in here? If you say "naw, this is a lie" then L's coffin is sealed.



Trezguet has claimed in thread to be Cao Cao's son, can't remember the name. His ability is to kill any leader who tries to recruit him. Him claiming Vig to L seems awful strange, unless he was just fishing for information.


Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history.

However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi.

Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game.

Just want to state my thought process. You guys can judge the likeliness of this.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 20:04 GMT
#1071
So only 3 hours till night begins. I have a bad feeling I won't make it pass the night...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 20:09 GMT
#1074
The fact the Diao Chan dies out of nowhere in Night 1 still bothers me.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 20:18 GMT
#1077
yes.

Remaining 2:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 20:36 GMT
#1080
Should I give my take on the importance of the character claimed by people and analyze which important role hasn't been name claim?
But it could help the the Ohn and Iaaan in their name claiming.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 21:22 GMT
#1085
Aside from Fishball and his refusal to cooperate:
Bill Murray - Yuan Shao
He said his ability is a poor general which isn't historically true. Yuan Shao is a little bit above average general.

BloodyCobbler - Huang Gai
Huang Gai plays a much smaller role than other character claimed. But the movie/battle "Battle of Red Cliff" is the most famous battle in ROTK and Huang Gai plays a significant role in it.

Trezequet23 - Cao Pi (copied from previous so this is more in depth)
Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history.

However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi.

Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game.


Futhermore, Cao Pi automatically getting recruited into Wei is questionable. If I was Caller, I would pick the Sun Jian->Sun Ce->Sun Quan succeeding process since all three play significant role in history. Cao Pi didn't do much for Wei accept being the emperor.

It is also likely that Caller picked a couple of minor roles since he said he randomize the process.

Lastly, it is sad to say my character (Xu Zhu) acts mostly as the bodyguard for Cao Cao. His most significant achievement is his duel against Ma Chao when Cao Cao is attacking the Xi Liang which earned him the nickname "Crazy Tiger".
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#1087
Liu Ci was the Emperor for Shu also and he sucks hardcore.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 22:45 GMT
#1090
ohN, you are the only two guys left without giving us your character name (not role).
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 22:48 GMT
#1092
Yes, Liu Ci is the roughly ping yin name.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 22:49 GMT
#1093
Wait I screwed up with the ping yin too. Yeah, Liu Shan is what I was refering to.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 23 2010 02:21 GMT
#1107
Only Ohn has not name claim.

Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)

2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)
DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51)

3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43)
Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56)

+ Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] +

On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.

Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.

I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment.

On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here.

cos thats my character, meng huo <_<

+ Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] +
On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,

I'm Ma Chao.

sup yo.


If you are Ma Chao, what's your power?

Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is.

Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao.

Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of.

At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying.


Yeah I was just fishing ^^.


On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote:

To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D.

I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time:

I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o
I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway.


+ Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] +
On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.

I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.

That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.

My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks


This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead.

Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 23 2010 03:52 GMT
#1110
Radfield claims to be Zhuge Liang. You are a dumbass if you mess with him.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 23 2010 05:58 GMT
#1114
Yes, I spent to much time on this. It is burning me out greatly.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 23 2010 17:31 GMT
#1153
What happened to Caller? Nothing is going to happen without him.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 05:03 GMT
#1187
Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)
Fishball unclaims Meng Huo (p.60)

2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)
DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51)

3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43)
Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56)

+ Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] +

On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.

Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.

I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment.

On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here.

cos thats my character, meng huo <_<

+ Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] +
On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,

I'm Ma Chao.

sup yo.


If you are Ma Chao, what's your power?

Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is.

Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao.

Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of.

At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying.


Yeah I was just fishing ^^.


On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote:

To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D.

I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time:

I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o
I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway.

+ Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] +
On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.

I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.

That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.

My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks


This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead.

Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask.


Order of name claim (Bold is certain) (contradictory roles underlined):
1.Last Romantic (Cao Cao)
2.Barth (Diao Chan)
3.~Opz~ (Lu Bu)
4.Abenson (Taishi Ci)
5.Hesmyrr (Lu Xun)
6.Tricode (Lu Meng)
7.XeliN (Jiang Wei)
8.BrownBear (Zhao Yun)
9.Radfield (Zhuge Liang)
10.LunarDestiny (Xu Zhu)
11.Bill Murray (Yuan Shao)
12.Trezeguet23 (Cao Pi)
13.Falcynn (Sima Yi)
14.Scamp (Guan Yu)
15.BloodyC0bbler (Huang Gai)
16.johnnyspazz (Zhang Liao)
17.TwoToneTerran (Ma Chao)
18.MyHeroNoob (Meng Huo)
19.DarthThienAn (Zhou Yu)
20.L (Sun Quan)
21.Jugan (Zhang Fei)
22.Iaaan (Cao Pi)
23.ohN (Pang Tong)
24.FishBall (unknown)

.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 05:07 GMT
#1188
Someone had to do that name claim order list (shit list) for future reference anyway. Might as well do it myself. Such a pain.
I don't think there is any mistake.

I did not take account of hints of DarthAnThien. I did not take account of reason why people don't want to name claim earlier than they had.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 05:13 GMT
#1190
What you can take away from the name claim list is the likelihood of being Liu Bei or Zhang Jiao. Underlings of Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao are safe even if they truthfully name claim their roles.

Only Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao who are reluctant to truthfully name claim would post later and try not a repeat a name posted before.

There is a high possibility that Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao did name claimed early but they got away with it since there are TONS of important characters in ROTK.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 05:18 GMT
#1191
Bill Murray, I think Fishball and MyHeroNoob who name claimed Meng Huo are not likely to be the third faction leader (not saying that they are not likely to be Zhang Jiao (leader of Yellow Turban)).

The reason is they both claim to have the ability to escape recruitment.

Think about it this way:
If either is a faction leader, they WANT Zhang Jiao to recruit them which will kill Zhang Jiao instantly.

Again, I am saying they are not likely to be the third faction leader. I have no idea if either is Zhang Jiao or not.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 05:29 GMT
#1194
Oh shit, I just came up with a good idea. Abenson (YT killer) whould target either MyHeroNoob or Fishball since they are suspicious. They are also not likely to be a faction leader. They are also not likely to know they are recruited by Liu Bei since it is unlikely that Liu Bei contacted them.

My argument why it is unlikely to Liu Bei contacted his recruit is there is more con than pro by contacting his recruit. By now, Liu Bei should only have one recruit which does not give him significant control over the voting. By contacting his recruit, the recruit might not be loyal to him 100% since there is a chance he would be recruited by YT after. By contacting his recruit, it gives away his identity which would be bad if YT recruited this person or this person reveal his lord's identity. It is better for faction leader to contact his recruits in the mid to late game where he can greatly influence the voting.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 05:30 GMT
#1195
The fuck. Abenson did what I was going to recommend to him. Nice.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 19:20 GMT
#1236
Now should be Night 3
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 21:54 GMT
#1246
Abenson hitting on Fishball is enough. Tricode please don't waste your role check on Fishball because he is not likely to be the 3rd faction leader Liu Bei or a recruit of Liu Bei.

Copied from page 60:
On May 24 2010 14:18 LunarDestiny wrote:
Bill Murray, I think Fishball and MyHeroNoob who name claimed Meng Huo are not likely to be the third faction leader (not saying that they are not likely to be Zhang Jiao (leader of Yellow Turban)).

The reason is they both claim to have the ability to escape recruitment.

Think about it this way:
If either is a faction leader, they WANT Zhang Jiao to recruit them which will kill Zhang Jiao instantly.

Again, I am saying they are not likely to be the third faction leader. I have no idea if either is Zhang Jiao or not.

On May 24 2010 14:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
Oh shit, I just came up with a good idea. Abenson (YT killer) whould target either MyHeroNoob or Fishball since they are suspicious. They are also not likely to be a faction leader. They are also not likely to know they are recruited by Liu Bei since it is unlikely that Liu Bei contacted them.

My argument why it is unlikely to Liu Bei contacted his recruit is there is more con than pro by contacting his recruit. By now, Liu Bei should only have one recruit which does not give him significant control over the voting. By contacting his recruit, the recruit might not be loyal to him 100% since there is a chance he would be recruited by YT after. By contacting his recruit, it gives away his identity which would be bad if YT recruited this person or this person reveal his lord's identity. It is better for faction leader to contact his recruits in the mid to late game where he can greatly influence the voting.



LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 21:55 GMT
#1248
Ah, the results are in. So now Jugan is dead... Do we know if he is a neutral or a recruit?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 21:56 GMT
#1249
Okay, people time to tell us what you did last night and the result you got.

My role (Xu Zhu) sucks so I can't do anything.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 22:17 GMT
#1252
Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)
Fishball unclaims Meng Huo (p.60)

2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)
DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51)

3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43)
Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56)

+ Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] +

On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.

Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.

I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment.

On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here.

cos thats my character, meng huo <_<

On May 24 2010 13:02 Fishball wrote:
Ok, got some free time now so here it goes.

I am not Meng Huo.

I claimed Meng Huo for only one reason; To avoid being recruited.
Who would want to recruit a player that does not have any special abilities besides deserting his own faction? I know the Three Kingdoms very well, which allows me to come up with this role. Guess what, Meng Huo with the exact same ability I came up with actually exist in this game (assuming that MyHeroNoob is also telling the truth, and did not "make up" the same role like I did).




+ Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] +
On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,

I'm Ma Chao.

sup yo.


If you are Ma Chao, what's your power?

Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is.

Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao.

Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of.

At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying.


Yeah I was just fishing ^^.


On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote:

To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D.

I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time:

I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o
I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway.

+ Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] +
On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.

I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.

That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.

My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks


This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead.

Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask.


Order of name claim (Bold is certain) (contradictory roles underlined):
1.Last Romantic (Cao Cao)
2.Barth (Diao Chan)
3.~Opz~ (Lu Bu)
4.Abenson (Taishi Ci)
5.Hesmyrr (Lu Xun)
6.Tricode (Lu Meng)
7.XeliN (Jiang Wei)
8.BrownBear (Zhao Yun)
9.Radfield (Zhuge Liang)
10.LunarDestiny (Xu Zhu)
11.Bill Murray (Yuan Shao)
12.Trezeguet23 (Cao Pi)
13.Falcynn (Sima Yi)
14.Scamp (Guan Yu)
15.BloodyC0bbler (Huang Gai)
16.johnnyspazz (Zhang Liao)
17.TwoToneTerran (Ma Chao)
18.MyHeroNoob (Meng Huo)
19.DarthThienAn (Zhou Yu)
20.L (Sun Quan)
21.Jugan (Zhang Fei)
22.Iaaan (Cao Pi)
23.ohN (Pang Tong)
24.FishBall (unknown)
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 22:22 GMT
#1253
Fishball, mind if you give us your character name. The reason is if one of us die and we didn't lie about our character name, the stuffs we said are highly believable.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 22:30 GMT
#1255
Tricode you found a leader again... the chance of that. We also don't know if you are lying or not(no offense since you say you are now on the dark side (yellow turban)...

Trezeguet23, sorry to say but I got to believe that Tricode is telling the truth since he has good history for day 2. If he is lying, he probably will be one of our target in the future.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 22:33 GMT
#1257
Fishball's story is minor at this point. What we need to discuss now is Tricode's confession of yet finding the last faction leader Liu Bei.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 22:35 GMT
#1259
We got to trust him for now since it is our only lead to the last faction leader unless someone found who is the leader of Yellow Turban. If not, Trezeguet23 should be our lynch target since night killing a leader requires 2 hits.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 24 2010 22:58 GMT
#1261
No Abenson should had hit Fishball which nothing happened.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 01:23 GMT
#1273
Given Abenson failed to kill Fishball on night 2, Fishball is most likely working for neutral.
My votes go to him to lynch Trezeguet23.

I also want to hear Trezeguet23's defense on his innocence if he choose to do so.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 01:52 GMT
#1275
I just want to hear his side of the story even if it is epicly lame.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 02:34 GMT
#1284
Well, this kind of Mafia sure isn't working.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 02:37 GMT
#1286
Nah we got the Leader of Yellow Turban.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 05:29 GMT
#1299
Do that for next game. This game is already confusing as it is.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 05:32 GMT
#1301
FUCK THIS. We are killing both Scamp and Trez this day.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 05:39 GMT
#1305
I don't know. This is getting to complicated... Too many players are involve.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 05:39 GMT
#1306
Wait Abenson, isn't you a YT?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 05:43 GMT
#1308
Oh, I mixed it up. Tricode is the one that is YT.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 19:27 GMT
#1388
Damn there is too much confusion here and we only get to lynch one person per day...

I am now offering my one time use ability to town to clear this shit up.

As Xu Zhu, I have the ability to day kill once. Now discuss who should I go for given we agreed to lynch Trezguet23.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 20:20 GMT
#1392
I want to use my one time kill to make it easier for people doing their night actions. I probably won't target an inactive since it gives us almost no information and I will leave those inactive to night action people.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 20:22 GMT
#1394
@bill murray, one time use day kill.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 20:36 GMT
#1401
I have class for the next 2 hours. Given Trezquet23 is to be lynched. I will day kill Scamp based on the quotes below. This is currently the best solution to maximize our information if I am seeing it correctly. Again, discuss if I am making the best possible choice or if there is another better choice out there.

On May 25 2010 14:30 Bill Murray wrote:
Guys, I hate to break it to you, but I have an ability I have yet to mention except in passing.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 20:30 Bill Murray wrote:
On May 23 2010 19:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
1. Bill Murray yuan shao
2. Hesmyrr Action Blocker Lu Xun
3. johnnyspazz Zhang Liao
4. Radfield Zhuge Liang
5. Scamp Guan Yu
6. Ohn
7. Falcynn Sima Yi
8. Iaaan Successor if Recruited Cao Pi
9. L Leader Sun Quan
10. BloodyCobbler Huang Gai
11. MyHeroNoob
Able to desert Meng Huo
12. Xelin Roleblocking Jian Wei
13. BrownBear Vigilante Zhao Yun
14. Tricode Role Cop Lu Meng
15. TwotoneTerran Ma Chao
16. Abenson YT Killer Taishi Ci
17. ~Opz~ No Role Lu Bu
18. Barth ??? Diao Chan
19. Trezequet23 Kills any leader who tries to recruit him Cao Pi
20. Fishball Able to desert Meng Huo AND Qin Shi Huang
21. Lunardestiny Xu Zhu
22. Last Romantic Leader Cao Cao
23. DarthThienAn zhou yu
24. Jugan Zhang Fei

Let's hope this works.


remember to add my ability: if put into a fight I will most likely lose (bad general)
I also have another ability
I am going to bed, and have a class tomorrow for an hour at 5pm est

I am a busdriver. Last night, I bussed Trezequet23 with Scamp as a result of a plan I had with Jugan. Scamp must be the YT leader. I am affiliated with noone yet, or haven't been told that I've been recruited by Caller. You can kill me if you all don't trust me, as I am completely oblivious to caring the way this game has gone. I really want a neutral victory, so you can kill me to figure out that I'm not lying to you. We need to cut off the head of this beast by getting rid of Scamp. The only way that this should be wrong is if Scamp and Trez are both YT, but I'm 100% sure Scamp is the YT leader if the night has gone the way I am understanding it to have gone.

You all really really really need to believe me on this.

The way I've understood this to have gone they are both YT, but Scamp NOT Trez is the leader.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 20:40 GMT
#1403
Wait, didn't Caller say something about neutral victory if all faction leaders and YT and eliminated. Someone confirm with Caller if game is over or not if only one faction alive, YT dead, and neutrals still out numbers the faction left.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 20:43 GMT
#1408
On May 26 2010 05:41 Bill Murray wrote:
no, it's 4
everyone starts with a bodyguard

I don't consider having an extra night life as a bodyguard.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 20:49 GMT
#1415
On May 26 2010 05:46 DarthThienAn wrote:
@BM, where does it say that leaders start with bodyguards? where it the evidence that bodyguards exist?

He is bsing. Last Romantic (Cao Cao) died alone. L (Sun Quan) died with his recruit Hesmyrr (Lu Xun).
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 23:17 GMT
#1442
I also did a name claim analysis earlier, so let me post my point of view. This is also a bit old (p.55).
I take no offense for you to suspect my name claim because I would had done it myself if someone else name claim Xu Zhu since the guy is pretty much a bodyguard for Cao Cao...

On May 23 2010 06:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Aside from Fishball and his refusal to cooperate:
Bill Murray - Yuan Shao
He said his ability is a poor general which isn't historically true. Yuan Shao is a little bit above average general.

BloodyCobbler - Huang Gai
Huang Gai plays a much smaller role than other character claimed. But the movie/battle "Battle of Red Cliff" is the most famous battle in ROTK and Huang Gai plays a significant role in it.

Trezequet23 - Cao Pi (copied from previous so this is more in depth)
Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history.

However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi.

Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game.


Futhermore, Cao Pi automatically getting recruited into Wei is questionable. If I was Caller, I would pick the Sun Jian->Sun Ce->Sun Quan succeeding process since all three play significant role in history. Cao Pi didn't do much for Wei accept being the emperor.

It is also likely that Caller picked a couple of minor roles since he said he randomize the process.

Lastly, it is sad to say my character (Xu Zhu) acts mostly as the bodyguard for Cao Cao. His most significant achievement is his duel against Ma Chao when Cao Cao is attacking the Xi Liang which earned him the nickname "Crazy Tiger".

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 25 2010 23:24 GMT
#1443
So this is what I am going to do

##Kill Trezequet23

So the army owner should go for another suspect.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 00:50 GMT
#1451
On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote:
YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23!
i got a worthless ability since wu is dead

Aren't you Zhang Liao?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 01:05 GMT
#1456
It is too late indeed since I also pmed Caller for letting him know that I wish to kill Trezequet23.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 01:31 GMT
#1466
Last Romantic said something about 2 night lives. I am killing during the day so it doesn't matters.

BM (yeah he lied a lot) also said if I try to kill him, I would die too. So I can't kill him also.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 01:32 GMT
#1469
SHIT, time is running out. As of now, I am killing Trezequet23. Should i make change or should I not?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 01:38 GMT
#1472
Bah, so johnnyspazz...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 01:41 GMT
#1474
So I changed my target:

Change ##Kill Trezequet23 to ##Kill johnnyspazz

was my action.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 01:44 GMT
#1478
On May 26 2010 10:29 Caller wrote:
ANY ACTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RESOLVED WILL TAKE PLACE WHEN I GET BACK


This quote scared me. So I thought time for me to make change is draining down.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 02:02 GMT
#1483
Ok. What makes Johnnyspazz so hated? BC looks more evil in my opinion.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 02:32 GMT
#1490
Ok people. I will make my final edit.

Change #Kill johnnyspazz to ##Kill Bill Murray

I will succeed to die gloriously.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 03:21 GMT
#1495
Fishball, I don't like Lu Xun being a Wei.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 03:29 GMT
#1497
Shouldn't it be:
-7 Shu
-6 Wei
-6 Wu
-5 Other

It doesn't matter much
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 03:43 GMT
#1500
Flamewheel, you got to do that "I have no idea what is going on" from time to time.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 04:47 GMT
#1507
Does it matter since Fishball gonna lynch Trezequet23 anyway.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 05:09 GMT
#1510
I changed my decision three times already and I feel pretty good about this one. The only benefit of killing Trezequet23 is Bill Murray might die with him. I don't believe Bill Murray will die if Trezequet23 is killed because Bill Murray is now begging for me to kill Trezequet23 instead.

Last Romantic mentioned he had 2 night lives but we are not 100% sure if it works that way.

Yeah, my decision is final this time. Keeping Bill Murray alive would only cause more confusion in the future (look at the mess he created). My objective to use my one time day kill is to eliminate confusion so night action people have a easier time. As it stands, I will kill Bill Murray and Fishball lynch Trezequet23.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 07:01 GMT
#1516
From page 70 onward, Bill Murray made so many claims that we don't know which to believe. Like I said earlier, I want to use my ability to make it easier for night actions people.

Trezequet23 will die by the lynch when Fishball exercise his right.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 07:21 GMT
#1521
Bill Murray's post (which to believe?)
+ Show Spoiler [post 1(p.69] +

On May 25 2010 20:01 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 19:58 Radfield wrote:
On May 25 2010 19:51 Bill Murray wrote:
jeez i really have to explain this again...


Yes please, you never explained WHY you did anything. Just that you had some plan with Jugan(who's dead and can't confirm) to bus Trez and Scamp. I'd love to hear what that plan was, because it seems like it directly fucks over the town plan that I posted last night cycle. Also, who did you bus night 1? Presumably we should be able to confirm that it happened.

Everything you've written so far makes me think you are on Trez's side, trying to save his ass and prolong his life.


I've already said that's what I'm doing... I was trying to help until I got confused as fuck when it came back that he was DT checked. Either Tricode or XeliN is lying one or the other on that, but that's irrelevant if you look at it from a broader perspective rad.

+ Show Spoiler [post 2(p.69)] +

On May 25 2010 20:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I have an idea. Daykill me to prove that I am telling the truth about Trez not being the leader. I am really wanting a neutral victory, and that is why I have been posting considerably less since my recruitment. I am not going to hand you all the leader on a silver platter, but just trust me on this
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 20:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to sleep. Trust me on this guys. Give your armies to Radfield (fishball is probably green)



Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT

+ Show Spoiler [post 3(p.69)] +
On May 25 2010 20:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to sleep. Trust me on this guys. Give your armies to Radfield (fishball is probably green)
+ Show Spoiler [post 4(p.70)] +
On May 26 2010 05:18 Bill Murray wrote:
just kill me and you'll see that you can trust me and that i am yt
the yt will not die with trez, he isn't the leader, he is one of the 2 they started with
the pm he sent me was sort of ambiguous on the recruitment from the brothers, and i have yet to have to vote for a recruit. i am certain that he is not the leader, though. kill me right now to prove that I am YT and am not lying to you all
+ Show Spoiler [post 5(p.71)] +
On May 26 2010 05:44 Bill Murray wrote:
i would bet anything that if you daykilled darthThienAn that he would be green

+ Show Spoiler [post 6(p.71)] +
On May 26 2010 06:03 Bill Murray wrote:
you all have to admire what i'm doing, though, not even KNOWING i'm yt

i have no idea if i am or if i'm not. if trez dies and isn't YT then i'm still not even cleared from not being YT myself because someone else could have non-inform recruited me. trez also could have been lying, so even if he is YT i am not 100% certain to be YT myself because Caller didn't tell me shit.

I made up the entire story about bussing people, LunarDestiny, so ignore that
it was a ploy to try and save what I believed to be my faction's ass, and was spoiled by XeliN :p
+ Show Spoiler [post 7(p.72)] +
On May 26 2010 06:13 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
"since busdriver is more useful to the YT than rolecop."


can you read?

my real power is in relation to the day lynch
if you shan't lynch me i shan't use it
when you use it trez i will show you whats up
if you dayvig me i will kill the person attacking me
+ Show Spoiler [post 8(p.76)] +
On May 26 2010 13:38 Bill Murray wrote:
Hey, could you keep me alive just because I won't be able to play in the next mafia game? I feel like I provide some fun, no?

I'm also not sure if I'm affiliated with anyone. lynch trez for all i care tbh i'm honestly trying to help so i'm kinda mad about this

+ Show Spoiler [post 9(p.76)] +
On May 26 2010 13:50 Bill Murray wrote:
i wasnt lying about my ability or the brothers things
the bus is the only fabrication which was to save my faction
now i am trying to save my own ass
+ Show Spoiler [post 10(p.76)] +
On May 26 2010 16:03 Bill Murray wrote:
from page 70 onward i have been nothing but honest

+ Show Spoiler [post 11(p.76)] +

On May 26 2010 16:09 Bill Murray wrote:
i am not contradicting myself at all

+ Show Spoiler [post 12(p.76)] +
On May 26 2010 16:12 Bill Murray wrote:
i understand that you all view me as a threat to your town, and that is the reason you're doing this.
i am ok with the way you all are playing, but you all are refusing to open your eyes to the big picture.
with me out of the way, and with trez dying, there will be an easy road to victory for Shu.
I suggest hitting/lynching if the hit doesnt work Trez to see if Me/Tricode are even YT at all.
If we are not, if Trez is not, then the town is benefited from keeping us alive.
If Trez comes back YT then I understand you all killing me

I only say this because I don't want to die as a neutral player. I got no PM from Caller.
Please reconsider LD

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 07:22 GMT
#1522
Would you explain each post please???
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 26 2010 16:27 GMT
#1539
Time to justify my targeting Bill Murray once again. I do not believe killing Trezequet23 will kill Bill Murray as well. Bill Murray had been begging to live for the past two pages or so. If I don't kill him, I would have targeted Trezequet23 instead which would also kill Bill Murray IF Trezequet23 is leader and Bill Murray is recruit. There is a possibility of Bill Murray not knowing he is Trezequet23's recruit but it is not likely since Trezequet23 should be a Yellow Turban and Yellow Turban has no benefit not pming the recruits.

Even if Bill Murray turns out to be a neutral which he now claims (very hard to believe). It is very hard to comprehend his earlier actions of claiming to be in another faction. Either Bill Murray is the master mafia player or he WAS VERY, VERY CONFUSED.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 00:35 GMT
#1552
On May 24 2010 09:39 flamewheel91 wrote:
I still, still have no idea whats going on.


Did Caller messed up again. I thought I went for Bill Murray.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 01:47 GMT
#1578
BUT Jugan is FUCKING ZHANG FEI. Huang Gai is shit against ZHANG FEI who went head to head against LU BU.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 02:00 GMT
#1588
On May 25 2010 06:49 Caller wrote:
DAY
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Jugan was just minding his own business when suddenly some guy ran over and punched him in the face. Enraged, Jugan took his blade and swirled it around, killing hundreds of his own troops. But even the sacrifice of so many of his allies was not enough to stop Jugan from getting annihilated by a single man.

Jugan, aka Zhang Fei the Bold, has fallen.


I still can't believe BC who claims Huang Gai can kill Zhang Fei. 81 is no where near 97.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 02:29 GMT
#1599
To explain why Bill Murray didn't die (heaven's will?)

My 2nd amendment (johnnyspazz->Bill Murray) was made after Caller frozen the day actions.

On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote:
YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23!
i got a worthless ability since wu is dead

It seems johnnyspazz wasn't lying about his role either since Zhang Liao is famous for holding 200,000 troops led by Sun Quan with 7000 troops defending He Fei.

Should look at Johnnyspazz's other posts for some information.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 02:32 GMT
#1601
Someone should really role check BC, his ability is too hard to believe.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 02:35 GMT
#1603
Oh, I understate Zhang Liao's achievement. Instead of "holding off the 200,000 army, he fucking own Sun Quan's army.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 02:38 GMT
#1605
SORRY again. I should have checked the wiki.

Battle of Hefei

After Cao Cao lost the Battle of Red Cliffs in 208, he placed Zhang Liao, Yue Jin and Li Dian at Hefei with 7,000 men to guard against advances of the southern warlord Sun Quan. Soon Sun Quan led a much larger force upon Hefei (approximately 200,000 men). Under instructions from Cao Cao, Zhang Liao and Li Dian picked 800 vanguard troops to deter the enemy at the Battle of Xiaoyao Jin (逍遙津).

As dawn broke, the force moved out with Zhang Liao in the forefront. The general galloped into the enemy ranks and single-handedly killed hundreds of men. Proclaiming his own name, Zhang Liao then went straight for Sun Quan, who sought refuge on top of a knoll. Seeing that Zhang Liao had much fewer men than himself with only 300 men following, Sun Quan ordered his troops to surround the enemy.

Leading scores of men, Zhang Liao soon broke through the encirclement. Those who were still caught within then cried, "General, are you going to forsake us?" Spinning around, Zhang Liao rode into the circle again and rescued his men, by when it was already noontime. Sun Quan's demoralized soldiers then retreated for the time being.

Returning to the city, Zhang Liao supervised the reinforcement of the defense works. After two weeks of siege, Sun Quan could not take Hefei and had to turn back. Zhang Liao then led his troops on pursuit. On a number of occasions, they almost captured Sun Quan. Cao Cao was very pleased and promoted Zhang Liao to the East-Conquering General (征東將軍).

Guess where the movie "300" rip off of?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 03:07 GMT
#1607
On May 24 2010 09:39 flamewheel91 wrote:
I still, still, still, still have no idea whats going on.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 03:20 GMT
#1613
Huang Zhong isn't the only one with manly beard.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 03:21 GMT
#1616
Caller, can you give us the role list?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 03:52 GMT
#1625
On May 12 2010 15:58 Bill Murray wrote:
i promise to play as poorly as humanly possible

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 04:00:57
May 27 2010 03:59 GMT
#1629
I would prefer if faction leaders start with 2 permanent recruits.

Liu Bei: Guan Yu, Zhang Fei.
Cao Cao: Xiahou Dun, Xiahou Yuan.
Sun Quan: Zhou Yu, Lu Meng.
Zhang Jiao: Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang.

EDIT:and eliminate Yellow Turban Faction.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 04:06 GMT
#1631
There should never be a neutral win in the first place.

Neutral should instead advertise themselves hoping to be recruited.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 08:14 GMT
#1639
Still waiting for Caller to give us the role list. In the mean time...

You are Xu Zhu, a whirlwind of blades! You are such a badass that you can just go up and kill anyone you want in the day time. One use only.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 30 2010 23:36 GMT
#1703
mind posting your role pm?
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