Three Kingdoms Mafia (三国演义)

On May 18 2010 17:00 BrownBear wrote:


Uhh... did you not read his post? He's specifically stating that he's glad he DOESN'T have to worry about people yelling "MAFIA" because there are no mafia in this game, and he knows there are 4 factions. Perhaps you should read peoples' posts before you flame them.

On May 19 2010 05:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
...:O I didn't even realize the PM advantage YT had. Also, Caller, seriously? I won't even know what I am?

On May 19 2010 06:08 Hesmyrr wrote:
Okay, guys.

This is critical. The fact you don't even know which side you are working for - and I promise you nobody but YT will inform the "victim" of their target - is highly disadvantageous for us neutrals. Hell, you may be playing game as usual when BAM! faction leader being an idiot gets himself killed, and who suffers for it? Us! Do you want to suffer such ignominy? I tell you not! Eighteen other neutrals listening to my voice, ponder my speech.

I will tell you of an way out. We will rebel against the injustice and wrestle control of the game out of these so-called leader's grasps. I propose...

NEUTRAL REVOLUTION

Take note of the winning condition Caller has listed:



You know what this means? Even when there is one faction leader remaining, as long as he doesn't overwhelm us, he can't win. Let's pull a Battler and turn around the chessboard. What do you see?

I see a four cult game, with us neutrals as Townies.

Let me stress that.

OUR PRIORITY AS NEUTRALS IS TO HUNT DOWN THE FOUR FACTION LEADERS, AND KILL THEM ALL. THEN IT WILL BE "TOWN" VICTORY, SINCE NEUTRALS (TOWN) IS THE ONLY FACTION REMAINING.

This plan is beneficial for all of us, this is the plan that makes sense, and this is EXACTLY what we should be doing. Neutrals, we are no longer neutrals. We are now comrades fighting for mutual victory, struggling against the tyranny of the cults awaiting us. Hereby I dedicate myself into finding, and killing, all the leader in this game. Who agrees with me?!?!?

On May 20 2010 07:21 Radfield wrote:



Over analyzing with little to no info is the only way to go

As far as I'm concerned, it's between Last Romantic, Myheronoob and yourself, with DarthTheinAn running a slightly distant fourth. The more you post, the less likely to die you are. Darth, you talked all about how you weren't going to lurk in games anymore, yet here you are, lurking again

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On May 20 2010 11:56 Last Romantic wrote:
Huh? There was no 'playing' to do, I just got offed Oo; I don't see what I was supposed to do differently

edit: also, I thought I took two hits to kill? I'm quite confused.

On May 20 2010 11:56 Last Romantic wrote:
Huh? There was no 'playing' to do, I just got offed Oo; I don't see what I was supposed to do differently

edit: also, I thought I took two hits to kill? I'm quite confused.

On May 20 2010 13:38 johnnyspazz wrote:

so wtf does this mean blue can somehow be resurrected? lol

it seems obvious to me that veterans will most likely be drafted into the factions
i would pay attention to BC,L,OPZ,Fishball,JeeJee
i think those are the only veterans

also i knew i could trust radfield to make the right hit for the "town."

On May 21 2010 19:09 Radfield wrote:



Agreed, this sounds much more like a role check. I imagine an alignment check would simply come back as blue/red/yellow/etc. Given that it's a role check, it would be unlikely for it to not be accurate. I'm not even sure how an insane dt would work in this format, I mean, there's no bad guys or good guys really. Insane dt's work in normal mafia because everything is clear cut. Tricode maybe you could tell us your characters name, and we could run it through the LunarDestiny ROTK machine to see if there's any lore reasons you might not get an accurate result.


Currently I believe Tricode about his role check, and I think L is a likely faction leader. It's possible L is telling the truth though, as it would make sense for the YT's to sacrifice a member to kill off a faction leader. That would be an excellent trade for them. So if we imagine that Tricode is a YT, where does that get us. Well, for starters the YT's would have to KNOW L is the faction leader before they decide to sac a player to kill him. It makes no sense to try and kill L unless you suspect him of being a leader. So this means the YT's must have used some KP last night(or a role check, in which case Tricode is telling the truth anyways) to try and kill L, only to have it not go through, therefore they would claim that L is a faction leader, given that it's basically been confirmed faction leaders have veteran abilities. Only, L is just a regular townie, and happened to be saved by a medic, which threw off the YT calculations. This is basically what L is saying happened.

As far as I'm concerned, the simple way to clear this up is to have the medic role claim. I don't understand why people think that roleclaiming medic would suddenly make you a target? There's no mafia here. A medic absolutely doesn't threaten the faction leaders one bit, and doesn't threaten the townies. Why would anyone waste kp on a medic? If anything, it makes you slightly more likely to be recruited is all.

So I'll be voting Tricode for now, unless a medic pops up and verifies what L has said. Of course it's possibly that L is a faction leader that had both a medic and vig/assassin target him last night, but oh well. Basically, as a neutral townie(hell, any alignment), I don't really care who flops what. But this will give us some interesting info at the very least.

Also Tricode, even if you're telling the truth and L flops leader, it doesn't make you any more trustworthy as the game progresses, because you could be recruited at any time. In fact you would likely be recruited YT with powers such as yours.

On May 22 2010 07:19 Radfield wrote:
Actually, everyone claiming their names is kind of a good idea. It gives no info as to roles, or hardly any, and yet is just as good at finding the leaders. All upside, no downside

Anyone have any misgivings about everyone claiming their character name, yet not their role??

I am Zhuge Liang

On May 22 2010 06:57 BrownBear wrote:
Well, since everyone else has namedropped in the past several pages, I might as well namedrop myself:

I am Zhao Yun. I have the power of nightkill ^^

So with all the people who have roleclaimed, I think rather than looking at the people who have roleclaimed and analyzing to see if they're lying, it would be far more interesting to look at the people who HAVEN'T yet roleclaimed. They are:

1. Bill Murray
3. johnnyspazz
4. Radfield
5. Scamp
6. Ohn
7. Falcynn
8. Iaaan
9. L (states he has reasons for not doing so, since his role is a "poison pill")
10. BloodyCobbler
11. MyHeroNoob
15. TwotoneTerran
19. Trezequet23
20. Fishball (pretty sure the Qin Shi Huang roleclaim was a joke )
21. Lunardestiny
23. DarthThienAn
24. Jugan

This is a (mostly accurate) list of the people who are still alive and have yet to roleclaim. It's far more likely that at least 1 or 2 of the faction leaders are hiding in the majority of people who don't roleclaim, rather than trying to lie and make up both a name, a role for that name, and reasoning behind that role.

Honestly? I think at this point in the game, it would be a good idea to have everyone roleclaim, complete with their name. Then, we can focus on the people who either refuse to roleclaim, or make roleclaims that don't really make sense.

Also, L, I understand you don't want to roleclaim, but especially with XeliN having claimed a role, that's putting you kinda back in the spotlight. It would be great if you could explain somehow either why your role would be useless if everyone knew about it, or if you could just roleclaim. If I win the dayvote, I will be sure to follow the will of the town, but the will of the town might be falling against you if you continue to be coy with your role.

On May 22 2010 04:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
Ok Lu Meng, here goes.

Lu Meng started as a uneducated general serving Wu (吳下阿蒙). After Zhou Yu's death, Wu was short in tacticians. Sun Quan told Lu Meng and a less important general Jiang Qin to study literature. After 3 days, they both became very intelligent (士别三日, 刮目相看).

Lu Meng is famous for the death of Guan Yu. What happened was, Lu Meng faked sickness and sent a message to Guan Yu. Guan Yu got little bit over confident thinking that Wu would not attack him since Lu Meng is sick. Guan Yu then goes on attacking Wei's city guarded by Cao Ren and kicking Cao Ren's ass badly. Lu Meng, with a huge army, shows up surprising Guan Yu.

Now Guan Yu is trapped in between Cao Ren and Lu Meng. What worse is that Lu Meng brought family members of Guan Yu's solders which made many Guan Yu's soldiers and two generals (Mi Fang and Fu Shi Ren defected. Guan Yu, ultimately ran out of food supply and surrendered. Guan Yu refused to surrender and was killed. Lu Meng also died shortly after (within a year I think).


From all this, Lu Meng could be an insane dt since he is stupid in his early days. And I have to point out that Lu Meng lied to Guan Yu which caused Guan Yu's death.

On May 22 2010 04:43 Hesmyrr wrote:
It is watcher. In my original post it is stated tracker watched Radfield and see Xelin visit him, which doesn't really make sense. I'll tell him about it. If he is following the thread, he was probably going to do so anyway.

On May 22 2010 03:50 Tricode wrote:


No, i know one of us is full of shit and my claim L is. If you go back and reread the thread carefully you will understand what I'm talking about.

2nd, my ability doesn't state anything about being insane or such.

L is just making that shit up to confuse people.

Look for the final time, it was not stated that there is a sanity part in my role.

So Logic dictates that I'm a regular DT. Otherwise if there was a sanity factor Logic would dictate in some way or form I should be told or otherwise all DT's are useless in this game and pointless.

Now I want someone to even try to destroy the logic. It's fucking mathematical black and white.

On May 22 2010 02:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
As it now stands, the only other person who voted for L except L himself is DarthThienAn.

DarthThienAn, can you explain why you vote for L?

On May 22 2010 08:02 L wrote:

Well, then. Case closed.

On May 22 2010 08:04 L wrote:

I know, that's why I bitched out caller for giving me this shit.

On May 22 2010 08:15 Bill Murray wrote:
so im supposed to say my character name?

On May 22 2010 03:44 Hesmyrr wrote:
I am Lu Xun. I can protect one person from night actions from every night. I asked Caller, and he said my protection overrides everything, including recruitment/NK/investigation etc. I said encryption codes to ~Opz~ day 1 so you can feel pretty confident in my roleclaim (I did leave out NK bit, but we traded names and I was afraid Lu Bu was serial killer. Tricode did fix himself to being an DT so I suppose it won't matter). I am obviously speaking up because I protected L last night, and thus know what Tricode is saying cannot be true. It is likely that he is Yellow Turban and is trying to waste today's kill. Either way it is clear to me neither of these two cannot be Yellow Turban leader.

This is why I propose an alternative plan; Tracker contacted me via PM and stated Radfield was visited by Xelin. He is kind of lurkish and kind of off everyone's radar, but I believe we have better chance of hitting faction leader by targetting Xelin instead of either Tricode or L. This is my plan: we pick one Townie other than me, L, or Tricode, and tell him to NK Xelin. At the upcoming night we can clarify this Tricode-L situation by having Abenson target Tricode- this will definiely prove he is YT. If Tricode does not die, then I'll accept he is genuine in his claim and I fucked up somewhere (lol Caller), and just lynch him day 3.

On May 21 2010 22:19 Abenson wrote:
First of all, I would like to point out that L is not yellow
Why?
I am Taishi Ci, a Yellow Turban killer.
I have the ability to visit a person each night, and if he's yellow, he dies.
I visited L, and he didn't die.
I still believe he's a faction leader, but I want to confirm he's not yellow.

On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.

I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically, even if I was YT.

That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.