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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 27 2010 01:30 GMT
#1561
OK, I layed out who i feel is NOT a leader, so lets look at the rest of the people in the game. I might be remembering a few things wrong here, so if people see any errors let me know.

The rest of the people

1. Bill Murray
5. Scamp
7. Falcynn
10. BloodyCobbler
11. MyHeroNoob
15. TwotoneTerran
17. ~Opz~
20. Fishball

Myheronoob and twotoneterran both came out on the proper side of nameclaims, which makes me think they are not the green leader. Opz was pretty much the first person to nameclaim, which reduces suspicion on him greatly. Falcynn claimed Sima Yi, which Xelin confirmed was in the game, given that it listed Sima Yi in Xelin's role description. Bill Murray's role of bad army leader seems legit. Even if everything else he said was lying, I'm inclined to believe that part of his story, because he mentioned it at the beginning of the game and made a big stink of it.

This leaves three people. Scamp, BC and Fishball. Fishball has STILL not name claimed(I think) which makes him most likely to be the green leader I suppose. BC has a night action and has been very quiet. Scamp has claimed a powerful role, I'm inclined to believe him, but I have nothing which with I can clear him from the short list.

Any objections to this logic? Recommendations on how we should proceed will follow.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 27 2010 01:34 GMT
#1562
If you, BrownBear, LunarDestiny and DarthThienAn all want me to announce my role, I will do so.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 27 2010 01:35 GMT
#1563
Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say.
靈魂交響曲
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 27 2010 01:36 GMT
#1564
You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
May 27 2010 01:37 GMT
#1565
You ninja'd me on the three most likely to be leaders

Of those three:

Fishball will not nameclaim, and appeared to have the trust of everyone yesterday, when we got him to lynch Trez... but the lack of nameclaim is odd.

BC has that night action, and we lost Tricode so we can't check what it is. I think it's time for him to either claim it quickly, or face some pretty immediate consequences.

Scamp confuses me. He hasn't done anything overly scummy, but he hasn't proven his innocence yet at all. And on a list this short, that's pretty damn scummy.

As much as I want to kill BM for making this thread a shitshow, we should focus on these three first.

I'll post much more detailed analysis later this night cycle, but right now I do not have time.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 27 2010 01:38 GMT
#1566
On May 27 2010 10:34 Fishball wrote:
If you, BrownBear, LunarDestiny and DarthThienAn all want me to announce my role, I will do so.


Please do - I'm going to post an updated role / name list soon.

and heads up I'm the alignment DT, Radfield was neutral on night 1, and Iaaan was neutral night 2. Night 3 check will be decided by us all.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
May 27 2010 01:38 GMT
#1567
D'oh. Fishball ninja'd. But please, do roleclaim. We're one lynch away from victory, it's time.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 27 2010 01:39 GMT
#1568
On May 27 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote:
Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say.



Hit me with a breakdown of your actions. This thread has been real drawn out and i forget alot of what has gone on.

As far as I know, you pushed hard to lynch Trez yesterday. This doesn't count against being the green leader, because of course the green leader would also push hard for lynching trez yesterday. In fact, everyone was and should have been pushing to lynch trez yesterday. It was obvious.

So what other actions make you not a leader? I'm not trying to be snarky here, I just can't think of any.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 27 2010 01:40 GMT
#1569
On May 27 2010 10:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.



If you're telling the truth, then thats a wild and crazy role.

What IS a duel? How do you win? How do you lose? Does the person you challenge die if they lose? Who have you visited so far and what happened?
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 27 2010 01:41 GMT
#1570
On May 27 2010 10:30 Radfield wrote:
OK, I layed out who i feel is NOT a leader, so lets look at the rest of the people in the game. I might be remembering a few things wrong here, so if people see any errors let me know.

The rest of the people

1. Bill Murray
5. Scamp
7. Falcynn
10. BloodyCobbler
11. MyHeroNoob
15. TwotoneTerran
17. ~Opz~
20. Fishball

Myheronoob and twotoneterran both came out on the proper side of nameclaims, which makes me think they are not the green leader. Opz was pretty much the first person to nameclaim, which reduces suspicion on him greatly. Falcynn claimed Sima Yi, which Xelin confirmed was in the game, given that it listed Sima Yi in Xelin's role description. Bill Murray's role of bad army leader seems legit. Even if everything else he said was lying, I'm inclined to believe that part of his story, because he mentioned it at the beginning of the game and made a big stink of it.

This leaves three people. Scamp, BC and Fishball. Fishball has STILL not name claimed(I think) which makes him most likely to be the green leader I suppose. BC has a night action and has been very quiet. Scamp has claimed a powerful role, I'm inclined to believe him, but I have nothing which with I can clear him from the short list.

Any objections to this logic? Recommendations on how we should proceed will follow.


What should we make of MyHeroNoob's "I made it all up" post, concerning his name and role? Something to consider, if you remember it.

On May 27 2010 10:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.


What does a duel consist of o.O







The list:

1. Bill Murray............Yuan Shao - dies if he chooses lynch
2. Hesmyrr................Lu Xun - Action Blocker
3. johnnyspazz ........Zhang Liao - ?
4. Radfield................Zhuge Liang - Random
5. Scamp..................Guan Yu -
6. Ohn......................Pang Tong -
7. Falcynn................Sima Yi -
8. Iaaan.....................Cao Pi - Successor if Recruited (useless)
9. L...........................Sun Quan - Red Leader
10. BloodyCobbler.....Huang Gai - (NOT a night action cancel)
11. MyHeroNoob.......Meng Huo - Able to desert
12. Xelin...................Jian Wei - Roleblock
13. BrownBear..........Zhao Yun - Vigilante/stay-home-kill
14. Tricode................Lu Meng - Role Cop (+YT)
15. TwotoneTerran.....Ma Chao
16. Abenson.............Taishi Ci - Kills YTs (useless)
17. ~Opz~................Lu Bu - lost his luver (none)
18. Barth.................Diao Chan - ???
19. Trezequet23........Zhang Jiao - YT Leader
20. Fishball...............?
21. Lunardestiny.......Xu Zhu - Daykill (used)
22. Last Romantic....Cao Cao - Leader
23. DarthThienAn......Zhou Yu - Alignment DT
24. Jugan.................Zhang Fei -

www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 27 2010 01:42 GMT
#1571
On May 27 2010 10:39 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote:
Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say.



Hit me with a breakdown of your actions. This thread has been real drawn out and i forget alot of what has gone on.

As far as I know, you pushed hard to lynch Trez yesterday. This doesn't count against being the green leader, because of course the green leader would also push hard for lynching trez yesterday. In fact, everyone was and should have been pushing to lynch trez yesterday. It was obvious.

So what other actions make you not a leader? I'm not trying to be snarky here, I just can't think of any.


No way I'm spending 2 hours to search and quote what I did this entire game. This is entirely up to you.
靈魂交響曲
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 27 2010 01:43 GMT
#1572
Ohn claimed Tracker
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 27 2010 01:43 GMT
#1573
I am Dian Wei. Bodyguard, protect Night Hits.
I do NOT have Day Kill abilities like Xu Zhu.
靈魂交響曲
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 27 2010 01:43 GMT
#1574
On May 27 2010 10:42 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 10:39 Radfield wrote:
On May 27 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote:
Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say.



Hit me with a breakdown of your actions. This thread has been real drawn out and i forget alot of what has gone on.

As far as I know, you pushed hard to lynch Trez yesterday. This doesn't count against being the green leader, because of course the green leader would also push hard for lynching trez yesterday. In fact, everyone was and should have been pushing to lynch trez yesterday. It was obvious.

So what other actions make you not a leader? I'm not trying to be snarky here, I just can't think of any.


No way I'm spending 2 hours to search and quote what I did this entire game. This is entirely up to you.



Don't search or quote anything. I'll do the fact checking. You just tell me in your own words what you've done.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 27 2010 01:43 GMT
#1575
ebwop:

The list:

1. Bill Murray............Yuan Shao - dies if he chooses lynch
2. Hesmyrr................Lu Xun - Action Blocker
3. johnnyspazz ........Zhang Liao - ?
4. Radfield................Zhuge Liang - Random
5. Scamp..................Guan Yu -
6. Ohn......................Pang Tong - Tracker
7. Falcynn................Sima Yi -
8. Iaaan.....................Cao Pi - Successor if Recruited (useless)
9. L...........................Sun Quan - Red Leader
10. BloodyCobbler.....Huang Gai - "Duelist"
11. MyHeroNoob.......Meng Huo - Able to desert
12. Xelin...................Jian Wei - Roleblock
13. BrownBear..........Zhao Yun - Vigilante/stay-home-kill
14. Tricode................Lu Meng - Role Cop (+YT)
15. TwotoneTerran.....Ma Chao
16. Abenson.............Taishi Ci - Kills YTs (useless)
17. ~Opz~................Lu Bu - lost his luver (none)
18. Barth.................Diao Chan - ???
19. Trezequet23........Zhang Jiao - YT Leader
20. Fishball...............?
21. Lunardestiny.......Xu Zhu - Daykill (used)
22. Last Romantic....Cao Cao - Leader
23. DarthThienAn......Zhou Yu - Alignment DT
24. Jugan.................Zhang Fei -

[/QUOTE]
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 27 2010 01:44 GMT
#1576
On May 27 2010 10:40 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 10:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.



If you're telling the truth, then thats a wild and crazy role.

What IS a duel? How do you win? How do you lose? Does the person you challenge die if they lose? Who have you visited so far and what happened?



Duel is just that, I challenge someone.

To date, I have challenged Jugan (who died last night), and L.

From what caller has told me, provided the player I challenge isn't killed at night, I win the duel. If they die, the duel doesn't finish, and to lose requires someone having a night role that kills visitors to defeat me.

I have no idea if the player is informed of my action, but as they aren't affected by it, I would guess not.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 27 2010 01:45 GMT
#1577
On May 27 2010 10:43 Fishball wrote:
I am Dian Wei. Bodyguard, protect Night Hits.
I do NOT have Day Kill abilities like Xu Zhu.


Note: this is consistent with his dodging name + roleclaim.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 27 2010 01:47 GMT
#1578
BUT Jugan is FUCKING ZHANG FEI. Huang Gai is shit against ZHANG FEI who went head to head against LU BU.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 27 2010 01:47 GMT
#1579
Question to everyone:

How did barth die night 1?

Brownbear didn't do it, which means we have another vigilante or something. It wasn't Radfield's random power either because he got YT killer and got roleblocked anyway. So what happened there? Second vig, please RC if you are alive.

BC, do you know what Jugan's role was?
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 27 2010 01:49 GMT
#1580
On May 27 2010 10:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
BUT Jugan is FUCKING ZHANG FEI. Huang Gai is shit against ZHANG FEI who went head to head against LU BU.


and I didn't believe his claim? regardless, he died so the fight ended in a draw.

On May 27 2010 10:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
Question to everyone:

How did barth die night 1?

Brownbear didn't do it, which means we have another vigilante or something. It wasn't Radfield's random power either because he got YT killer and got roleblocked anyway. So what happened there? Second vig, please RC if you are alive.

BC, do you know what Jugan's role was?


No, my role doesn't let me know who people are, just lets me duel them.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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