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Radfield
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OK, I layed out who i feel is NOT a leader, so lets look at the rest of the people in the game. I might be remembering a few things wrong here, so if people see any errors let me know.
The rest of the people
1. Bill Murray 5. Scamp 7. Falcynn 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 15. TwotoneTerran 17. ~Opz~ 20. Fishball
Myheronoob and twotoneterran both came out on the proper side of nameclaims, which makes me think they are not the green leader. Opz was pretty much the first person to nameclaim, which reduces suspicion on him greatly. Falcynn claimed Sima Yi, which Xelin confirmed was in the game, given that it listed Sima Yi in Xelin's role description. Bill Murray's role of bad army leader seems legit. Even if everything else he said was lying, I'm inclined to believe that part of his story, because he mentioned it at the beginning of the game and made a big stink of it.
This leaves three people. Scamp, BC and Fishball. Fishball has STILL not name claimed(I think) which makes him most likely to be the green leader I suppose. BC has a night action and has been very quiet. Scamp has claimed a powerful role, I'm inclined to believe him, but I have nothing which with I can clear him from the short list.
Any objections to this logic? Recommendations on how we should proceed will follow.
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If you, BrownBear, LunarDestiny and DarthThienAn all want me to announce my role, I will do so.
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Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say.
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You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.
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You ninja'd me on the three most likely to be leaders ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
Of those three:
Fishball will not nameclaim, and appeared to have the trust of everyone yesterday, when we got him to lynch Trez... but the lack of nameclaim is odd.
BC has that night action, and we lost Tricode so we can't check what it is. I think it's time for him to either claim it quickly, or face some pretty immediate consequences.
Scamp confuses me. He hasn't done anything overly scummy, but he hasn't proven his innocence yet at all. And on a list this short, that's pretty damn scummy.
As much as I want to kill BM for making this thread a shitshow, we should focus on these three first.
I'll post much more detailed analysis later this night cycle, but right now I do not have time.
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On May 27 2010 10:34 Fishball wrote: If you, BrownBear, LunarDestiny and DarthThienAn all want me to announce my role, I will do so.
Please do - I'm going to post an updated role / name list soon.
and heads up I'm the alignment DT, Radfield was neutral on night 1, and Iaaan was neutral night 2. Night 3 check will be decided by us all.
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D'oh. Fishball ninja'd. But please, do roleclaim. We're one lynch away from victory, it's time.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 27 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote: Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say.
Hit me with a breakdown of your actions. This thread has been real drawn out and i forget alot of what has gone on.
As far as I know, you pushed hard to lynch Trez yesterday. This doesn't count against being the green leader, because of course the green leader would also push hard for lynching trez yesterday. In fact, everyone was and should have been pushing to lynch trez yesterday. It was obvious.
So what other actions make you not a leader? I'm not trying to be snarky here, I just can't think of any.
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Radfield
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On May 27 2010 10:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.
If you're telling the truth, then thats a wild and crazy role.
What IS a duel? How do you win? How do you lose? Does the person you challenge die if they lose? Who have you visited so far and what happened?
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On May 27 2010 10:30 Radfield wrote: OK, I layed out who i feel is NOT a leader, so lets look at the rest of the people in the game. I might be remembering a few things wrong here, so if people see any errors let me know.
The rest of the people
1. Bill Murray 5. Scamp 7. Falcynn 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 15. TwotoneTerran 17. ~Opz~ 20. Fishball
Myheronoob and twotoneterran both came out on the proper side of nameclaims, which makes me think they are not the green leader. Opz was pretty much the first person to nameclaim, which reduces suspicion on him greatly. Falcynn claimed Sima Yi, which Xelin confirmed was in the game, given that it listed Sima Yi in Xelin's role description. Bill Murray's role of bad army leader seems legit. Even if everything else he said was lying, I'm inclined to believe that part of his story, because he mentioned it at the beginning of the game and made a big stink of it.
This leaves three people. Scamp, BC and Fishball. Fishball has STILL not name claimed(I think) which makes him most likely to be the green leader I suppose. BC has a night action and has been very quiet. Scamp has claimed a powerful role, I'm inclined to believe him, but I have nothing which with I can clear him from the short list.
Any objections to this logic? Recommendations on how we should proceed will follow.
What should we make of MyHeroNoob's "I made it all up" post, concerning his name and role? Something to consider, if you remember it.
On May 27 2010 10:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.
What does a duel consist of o.O
The list:
1. Bill Murray............Yuan Shao - dies if he chooses lynch
2. Hesmyrr................Lu Xun - Action Blocker
3. johnnyspazz ........Zhang Liao - ? 4. Radfield................Zhuge Liang - Random 5. Scamp..................Guan Yu - 6. Ohn......................Pang Tong - 7. Falcynn................Sima Yi - 8. Iaaan.....................Cao Pi - Successor if Recruited (useless)
9. L...........................Sun Quan - Red Leader 10. BloodyCobbler.....Huang Gai - (NOT a night action cancel) 11. MyHeroNoob.......Meng Huo - Able to desert 12. Xelin...................Jian Wei - Roleblock 13. BrownBear..........Zhao Yun - Vigilante/stay-home-kill
14. Tricode................Lu Meng - Role Cop (+YT) 15. TwotoneTerran.....Ma Chao 16. Abenson.............Taishi Ci - Kills YTs (useless) 17. ~Opz~................Lu Bu - lost his luver (none)
18. Barth.................Diao Chan - ???
19. Trezequet23........Zhang Jiao - YT Leader 20. Fishball...............? 21. Lunardestiny.......Xu Zhu - Daykill (used)
22. Last Romantic....Cao Cao - Leader 23. DarthThienAn......Zhou Yu - Alignment DT
24. Jugan.................Zhang Fei -
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On May 27 2010 10:39 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote: Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say. Hit me with a breakdown of your actions. This thread has been real drawn out and i forget alot of what has gone on. As far as I know, you pushed hard to lynch Trez yesterday. This doesn't count against being the green leader, because of course the green leader would also push hard for lynching trez yesterday. In fact, everyone was and should have been pushing to lynch trez yesterday. It was obvious. So what other actions make you not a leader? I'm not trying to be snarky here, I just can't think of any.
No way I'm spending 2 hours to search and quote what I did this entire game. This is entirely up to you.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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I am Dian Wei. Bodyguard, protect Night Hits. I do NOT have Day Kill abilities like Xu Zhu.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 27 2010 10:42 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 10:39 Radfield wrote:On May 27 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote: Also, if none of my actions thus far cannot convince you that I am NOT Liu Bei, then I've got no more to say. Hit me with a breakdown of your actions. This thread has been real drawn out and i forget alot of what has gone on. As far as I know, you pushed hard to lynch Trez yesterday. This doesn't count against being the green leader, because of course the green leader would also push hard for lynching trez yesterday. In fact, everyone was and should have been pushing to lynch trez yesterday. It was obvious. So what other actions make you not a leader? I'm not trying to be snarky here, I just can't think of any. No way I'm spending 2 hours to search and quote what I did this entire game. This is entirely up to you.
Don't search or quote anything. I'll do the fact checking. You just tell me in your own words what you've done.
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ebwop:
The list:
1. Bill Murray............Yuan Shao - dies if he chooses lynch
2. Hesmyrr................Lu Xun - Action Blocker
3. johnnyspazz ........Zhang Liao - ? 4. Radfield................Zhuge Liang - Random 5. Scamp..................Guan Yu - 6. Ohn......................Pang Tong - Tracker 7. Falcynn................Sima Yi - 8. Iaaan.....................Cao Pi - Successor if Recruited (useless)
9. L...........................Sun Quan - Red Leader 10. BloodyCobbler.....Huang Gai - "Duelist" 11. MyHeroNoob.......Meng Huo - Able to desert 12. Xelin...................Jian Wei - Roleblock 13. BrownBear..........Zhao Yun - Vigilante/stay-home-kill
14. Tricode................Lu Meng - Role Cop (+YT) 15. TwotoneTerran.....Ma Chao 16. Abenson.............Taishi Ci - Kills YTs (useless) 17. ~Opz~................Lu Bu - lost his luver (none)
18. Barth.................Diao Chan - ???
19. Trezequet23........Zhang Jiao - YT Leader 20. Fishball...............? 21. Lunardestiny.......Xu Zhu - Daykill (used)
22. Last Romantic....Cao Cao - Leader 23. DarthThienAn......Zhou Yu - Alignment DT
24. Jugan.................Zhang Fei -
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On May 27 2010 10:40 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 10:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.
If you're telling the truth, then thats a wild and crazy role. What IS a duel? How do you win? How do you lose? Does the person you challenge die if they lose? Who have you visited so far and what happened?
Duel is just that, I challenge someone.
To date, I have challenged Jugan (who died last night), and L.
From what caller has told me, provided the player I challenge isn't killed at night, I win the duel. If they die, the duel doesn't finish, and to lose requires someone having a night role that kills visitors to defeat me.
I have no idea if the player is informed of my action, but as they aren't affected by it, I would guess not.
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On May 27 2010 10:43 Fishball wrote: I am Dian Wei. Bodyguard, protect Night Hits. I do NOT have Day Kill abilities like Xu Zhu.
Note: this is consistent with his dodging name + roleclaim.
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BUT Jugan is FUCKING ZHANG FEI. Huang Gai is shit against ZHANG FEI who went head to head against LU BU.
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Question to everyone:
How did barth die night 1?
Brownbear didn't do it, which means we have another vigilante or something. It wasn't Radfield's random power either because he got YT killer and got roleblocked anyway. So what happened there? Second vig, please RC if you are alive.
BC, do you know what Jugan's role was?
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On May 27 2010 10:47 LunarDestiny wrote: BUT Jugan is FUCKING ZHANG FEI. Huang Gai is shit against ZHANG FEI who went head to head against LU BU.
and I didn't believe his claim? regardless, he died so the fight ended in a draw.
On May 27 2010 10:47 DarthThienAn wrote: Question to everyone:
How did barth die night 1?
Brownbear didn't do it, which means we have another vigilante or something. It wasn't Radfield's random power either because he got YT killer and got roleblocked anyway. So what happened there? Second vig, please RC if you are alive.
BC, do you know what Jugan's role was?
No, my role doesn't let me know who people are, just lets me duel them.
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