I also did a name claim analysis earlier, so let me post my point of view. This is also a bit old (p.55).
I take no offense for you to suspect my name claim because I would had done it myself if someone else name claim Xu Zhu since the guy is pretty much a bodyguard for Cao Cao...

On May 23 2010 06:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Aside from Fishball and his refusal to cooperate:
Bill Murray - Yuan Shao
He said his ability is a poor general which isn't historically true. Yuan Shao is a little bit above average general.

BloodyCobbler - Huang Gai
Huang Gai plays a much smaller role than other character claimed. But the movie/battle "Battle of Red Cliff" is the most famous battle in ROTK and Huang Gai plays a significant role in it.

Trezequet23 - Cao Pi (copied from previous so this is more in depth)
Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history.

However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi.

Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game.

Futhermore, Cao Pi automatically getting recruited into Wei is questionable. If I was Caller, I would pick the Sun Jian->Sun Ce->Sun Quan succeeding process since all three play significant role in history. Cao Pi didn't do much for Wei accept being the emperor.

It is also likely that Caller picked a couple of minor roles since he said he randomize the process.

Lastly, it is sad to say my character (Xu Zhu) acts mostly as the bodyguard for Cao Cao. His most significant achievement is his duel against Ma Chao when Cao Cao is attacking the Xi Liang which earned him the nickname "Crazy Tiger".

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 25 2010 23:24 GMT

#1443

So this is what I am going to do

##Kill Trezequet23

So the army owner should go for another suspect.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 00:50 GMT

#1451

On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote:
YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23!
i got a worthless ability since wu is dead

Aren't you Zhang Liao?

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 01:05 GMT

#1456

It is too late indeed since I also pmed Caller for letting him know that I wish to kill Trezequet23.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 01:31 GMT

#1466

Last Romantic said something about 2 night lives. I am killing during the day so it doesn't matters.

BM (yeah he lied a lot) also said if I try to kill him, I would die too. So I can't kill him also.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 01:32 GMT

#1469

SHIT, time is running out. As of now, I am killing Trezequet23. Should i make change or should I not?

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 01:38 GMT

#1472

Bah, so johnnyspazz...

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 01:41 GMT

#1474

So I changed my target:

Change ##Kill Trezequet23 to ##Kill johnnyspazz

was my action.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 01:44 GMT

#1478

On May 26 2010 10:29 Caller wrote:
ANY ACTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RESOLVED WILL TAKE PLACE WHEN I GET BACK

This quote scared me. So I thought time for me to make change is draining down.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 02:02 GMT

#1483

Ok. What makes Johnnyspazz so hated? BC looks more evil in my opinion.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 02:32 GMT

#1490

Ok people. I will make my final edit.

Change #Kill johnnyspazz to ##Kill Bill Murray

I will succeed to die gloriously.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 03:21 GMT

#1495

Fishball, I don't like Lu Xun being a Wei.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 03:29 GMT

#1497

Shouldn't it be:
-7 Shu
-6 Wei
-6 Wu
-5 Other

It doesn't matter much

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 03:43 GMT

#1500

Flamewheel, you got to do that "I have no idea what is going on" from time to time.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 04:47 GMT

#1507

Does it matter since Fishball gonna lynch Trezequet23 anyway.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 05:09 GMT

#1510

I changed my decision three times already and I feel pretty good about this one. The only benefit of killing Trezequet23 is Bill Murray might die with him. I don't believe Bill Murray will die if Trezequet23 is killed because Bill Murray is now begging for me to kill Trezequet23 instead.

Last Romantic mentioned he had 2 night lives but we are not 100% sure if it works that way.

Yeah, my decision is final this time. Keeping Bill Murray alive would only cause more confusion in the future (look at the mess he created). My objective to use my one time day kill is to eliminate confusion so night action people have a easier time. As it stands, I will kill Bill Murray and Fishball lynch Trezequet23.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 07:01 GMT

#1516

From page 70 onward, Bill Murray made so many claims that we don't know which to believe. Like I said earlier, I want to use my ability to make it easier for night actions people.

Trezequet23 will die by the lynch when Fishball exercise his right.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 07:21 GMT

#1521

Bill Murray's post (which to believe?)
+ Show Spoiler [post 1(p.69] +

On May 25 2010 20:01 Bill Murray wrote:

Show nested quote +

I've already said that's what I'm doing... I was trying to help until I got confused as fuck when it came back that he was DT checked. Either Tricode or XeliN is lying one or the other on that, but that's irrelevant if you look at it from a broader perspective rad.

+ Show Spoiler [post 2(p.69)] +

On May 25 2010 20:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I have an idea. Daykill me to prove that I am telling the truth about Trez not being the leader. I am really wanting a neutral victory, and that is why I have been posting considerably less since my recruitment. I am not going to hand you all the leader on a silver platter, but just trust me on this

Show nested quote +

Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT

+ Show Spoiler [post 3(p.69)] +

On May 25 2010 20:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to sleep. Trust me on this guys. Give your armies to Radfield (fishball is probably green)

+ Show Spoiler [post 4(p.70)] +

On May 26 2010 05:18 Bill Murray wrote:
just kill me and you'll see that you can trust me and that i am yt
the yt will not die with trez, he isn't the leader, he is one of the 2 they started with
the pm he sent me was sort of ambiguous on the recruitment from the brothers, and i have yet to have to vote for a recruit. i am certain that he is not the leader, though. kill me right now to prove that I am YT and am not lying to you all

+ Show Spoiler [post 5(p.71)] +

On May 26 2010 05:44 Bill Murray wrote:
i would bet anything that if you daykilled darthThienAn that he would be green

+ Show Spoiler [post 6(p.71)] +

On May 26 2010 06:03 Bill Murray wrote:
you all have to admire what i'm doing, though, not even KNOWING i'm yt

i have no idea if i am or if i'm not. if trez dies and isn't YT then i'm still not even cleared from not being YT myself because someone else could have non-inform recruited me. trez also could have been lying, so even if he is YT i am not 100% certain to be YT myself because Caller didn't tell me shit.

I made up the entire story about bussing people, LunarDestiny, so ignore that
it was a ploy to try and save what I believed to be my faction's ass, and was spoiled by XeliN :p

+ Show Spoiler [post 7(p.72)] +

On May 26 2010 06:13 Bill Murray wrote:

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can you read?

my real power is in relation to the day lynch
if you shan't lynch me i shan't use it
when you use it trez i will show you whats up
if you dayvig me i will kill the person attacking me

+ Show Spoiler [post 8(p.76)] +

On May 26 2010 13:38 Bill Murray wrote:
Hey, could you keep me alive just because I won't be able to play in the next mafia game? I feel like I provide some fun, no?

I'm also not sure if I'm affiliated with anyone. lynch trez for all i care tbh i'm honestly trying to help so i'm kinda mad about this

+ Show Spoiler [post 9(p.76)] +

On May 26 2010 13:50 Bill Murray wrote:
i wasnt lying about my ability or the brothers things
the bus is the only fabrication which was to save my faction
now i am trying to save my own ass

+ Show Spoiler [post 10(p.76)] +

On May 26 2010 16:03 Bill Murray wrote:
from page 70 onward i have been nothing but honest

+ Show Spoiler [post 11(p.76)] +

On May 26 2010 16:09 Bill Murray wrote:
i am not contradicting myself at all

+ Show Spoiler [post 12(p.76)] +

On May 26 2010 16:12 Bill Murray wrote:
i understand that you all view me as a threat to your town, and that is the reason you're doing this.
i am ok with the way you all are playing, but you all are refusing to open your eyes to the big picture.
with me out of the way, and with trez dying, there will be an easy road to victory for Shu.
I suggest hitting/lynching if the hit doesnt work Trez to see if Me/Tricode are even YT at all.
If we are not, if Trez is not, then the town is benefited from keeping us alive.
If Trez comes back YT then I understand you all killing me

I only say this because I don't want to die as a neutral player. I got no PM from Caller.
Please reconsider LD

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

May 26 2010 07:22 GMT

#1522

Would you explain each post please???