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THERE ARE 3 YT AT THE START
1 LEADER
2 BROTHERS
THEY RECRUIT 2 PER NIGHT
LEADER PICKS 1 PLAYER
2 BROTHERS + RECRUITS THEY TRUST VOTE ON 2ND PLAYER
BROTHERS = 2 NIGHT LIVES
Though he came back with 2 night lives and the ability to recruit (through voting), killing Trez will be a mistake in that it will not set them back as much as you think.
Lets do the math on this following your plan:
On May 11 2010 06:08 Caller wrote:
Signups:
1. Bill Murray
2. Hesmyrr
3. johnnyspazz
4. Radfield
5. Scamp
6. Ohn
7. Falcynn
8. Iaaan
9. L Sun Quan
10. BloodyCobbler
11. MyHeroNoob
12. Xelin
13. BrownBear
14. Tricode
15. TwotoneTerran
16. Abenson
17. ~Opz~
18. Barth Diao Chan
19. Trezequet23
20. Fishball
21. Lunardestiny
22. Last Romantic Cao Cao
23. DarthThienAn
24. Jugan
16 people left. 1 brother, 1 yt leader + 2 recruits next night = 4 people
1 green leader + bodyguard(abenson?) + night 1 night 2 night 3 recruits = 5 people
7 townies
then the next night = 4 townies, 6 green, 6 YT
The "neutral victory" is still very fucking far away
The YT are at a disadvantage, and the town needs to protect them, as they can't afford to recruit the green leader. If that happens, the town has surely lost. There has been WAY too much focus on the YT this turn. It would be much more beneficial to hunt who is the 3rd faction leader (likely BC), or the actual YT leader (i repeat it is NOT trez, he is a brother)
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This is assuming you do what you said you would do today and this night, Radfield.
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On May 25 2010 19:58 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2010 19:51 Bill Murray wrote:
jeez i really have to explain this again... Yes please, you never explained WHY you did anything. Just that you had some plan with Jugan(who's dead and can't confirm) to bus Trez and Scamp. I'd love to hear what that plan was, because it seems like it directly fucks over the town plan that I posted last night cycle. Also, who did you bus night 1? Presumably we should be able to confirm that it happened. Everything you've written so far makes me think you are on Trez's side, trying to save his ass and prolong his life.
I've already said that's what I'm doing... I was trying to help until I got confused as fuck when it came back that he was DT checked. Either Tricode or XeliN is lying one or the other on that, but that's irrelevant if you look at it from a broader perspective rad.
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I have an idea. Daykill me to prove that I am telling the truth about Trez not being the leader. I am really wanting a neutral victory, and that is why I have been posting considerably less since my recruitment. I am not going to hand you all the leader on a silver platter, but just trust me on this
Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT 
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I am going to sleep. Trust me on this guys. Give your armies to Radfield (fishball is probably green)
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Radfield
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On May 25 2010 20:10 Bill Murray wrote:I have an idea. Daykill me to prove that I am telling the truth about Trez not being the leader. I am really wanting a neutral victory, and that is why I have been posting considerably less since my recruitment. I am not going to hand you all the leader on a silver platter, but just trust me on this Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT
Strange that you argue against my plan of Daykilling Trez and killing you at night, only to propose that we Daykill you and NK Trez. What am I missing here? It's the exact same result, except that we have to use two nk's instead of one. What are you playing at? All I can imagine right now is that you are doing your best to save your leader Trez, by delaying his death any way you can. Too much can happen at night, roleblocks, bussing, medics, etc. We kill trez now, and deal with the rest later.
Consider Trez has pretty much already admitting to being the YT leader:
"But unfortunately for these idiots they haven't told me who I'm working for or anything other then I have been recruited for them."
lol you gave me how long to let you know??
Caller told him that he is YT, caller didn't tell me that the recruitment worked, Tricode got too big a boner and shot his load in the thread because he couldn't hold it in.
All of Trezguets syntax point to him being the LEADER, not some lowly second in command brother. Anyways, that's hardly important.
KILL TREZGUET
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Radfield
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On May 25 2010 20:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to sleep. Trust me on this guys. Give your armies to Radfield (fishball is probably green)
hah, well, I can't argue with this one....
If you give me your armies, I will kill Trez, that I guarantee.
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In the morning at work right now and checking the thread.
lol @ Xelin and BM.
I can mock Xelin so hard (his logic is on par in Ace's game), but I have no time, or have the effort to do so.
I've already mentioned many times, feel free to have Tricode check me. I am not Liu Bei. If you think my actions, logic, and motives thus far have not been helping the neutral, then so be it.
First off, I did not ask or started a bandwagon to have people vote for me. To me, people voting for me is a vote of confidence, which I appreciate.
Our current situation is a very similar to L early on; People jumping out and causing distractions. I don't give a flying f***. As I say again, these are all distractions.
Trezeguet23 will die tonight.
Right now, Tricode is our most trustworthy figure. If he lies and mislead us, he dies, simple as that. Until then, we have no reason whatsoever NOT to trust him.
Also, to all those finger-pointing-people. Let's assume I am Liu Bei, it doesn't change the fact that we will at least have a mutual goal in this situation, which is to eliminate the YT.
Carry on, will check back at noon.
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On May 25 2010 22:44 Fishball wrote:
In the morning at work right now and checking the thread.
lol @ Xelin and BM.
I can mock Xelin so hard (his logic is on par in Ace's game), but I have no time, or have the effort to do so.
Do it pussy!
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Oh shit I just realized the "bus drivet" had reared its head.
And I thought I had escaped those days.
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Radfield
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Fishball, I'm assuming you mean that Trezguet will die today with the daykill, and not tonight.
If that's the case you have my vote, and I urge everyone else to vote Fishball as well.
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Radfield
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Also, everyone should make sure they vote
##Fishball
and not
##vote Fishball
Not that it really matters...
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Bill why in the world are you still going after me?
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On May 25 2010 18:29 Bill Murray wrote:
I am suspicious that some of you all are lying to the town, especially Tricode.
Trez PMed me stating that he was a "brother" , and that I was recruited, and much like Tricode I was kept in the dark a lot. I bussed Trez with Scamp last night, thinking I would be helping my faction. Although I'm not sure at all what faction I'm in, I wanted to keep him out of dodge last night
just in case he wasn't lying. Therefore, if Trez came up with recruitment powers, it is because Scamp has them.
If Scamp does not come back as it then Caller must be fucking with me, or Tricode is lying. It is that simple.
Here is the plan:
1)We kill Scamp with the daylynch, as he will have 2 night lives
2)We kill Trez using Abenson (assuming Abenson isn't YT or wants neutral to win) he wont have two lives in the night, as there is no possible way that he is the YT leader because of my bus.
3) If this scenario isn't cleared up we lynch whoever has been lying to us (likely tricode, trez, scamp)
IMPORTANT
As Abenson isn't "cleared", which makes me suspect Fishball, I say we give our armies to Radfield.
Trez couldn't be lying about the brother shit?
Yea...you're playing for the YT, let's kill trez.
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On May 25 2010 19:44 Radfield wrote:
Nope nope nope. Sorry BM, I really don't like the plans you're throwing down. It smells of desperation, and it stinks. I'm inclined to trust Tricode's result for the moment, despite the fact that he got recruited. It fits that Trez is not neutral.
A few things we know, or likely know.
Trezguet is a YT with recruiting powers
BM is probably a YT
Tricode is a YT
Fishball is NOT a YT, but could be the green leader
BC in NOT a YT, but could be the green leader
Iaaan flipped neutral according to the alignment check
I'd love if the watcher could confirm who he watched last night and what happened, but only if it's pertinent info. So I'm going to assume that Abenson did not get recruited last night unless the watcher confirms otherwise.
So, we lynch Trez today, and if the rest of the YT gang is still around, Brownbear and Abenson kill the other two tonight. At the very least that gets rid of 3 YT members and significantly sets back their victory. We also have a host of investigative powers, and I think people worth checking out are BloodyC0bbler, Johnnyspazz, Scamp, Ohn, and Fishball(could still be green). Of course other people are likely green as well, but all we need to do is find the green leader. I would recommend the watcher watch Brownbear or myself to see if we get recuited.
Anything I'm missing? Any better suggestions as to how we clear all this up?
Some things to add:
Who did Abenson get recruited by? Green or YT? Cuz if he's green, then there's no way BC is green leader, since BC visited Jugan last night.
Yeah though.
Lynch Trez
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On May 25 2010 19:58 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2010 19:51 Bill Murray wrote:
jeez i really have to explain this again... Yes please, you never explained WHY you did anything. Just that you had some plan with Jugan(who's dead and can't confirm) to bus Trez and Scamp. I'd love to hear what that plan was, because it seems like it directly fucks over the town plan that I posted last night cycle. Also, who did you bus night 1? Presumably we should be able to confirm that it happened. Everything you've written so far makes me think you are on Trez's side, trying to save his ass and prolong his life.
HERE, HERE
...I agree with Radfield on everything he said.
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On May 25 2010 19:59 Bill Murray wrote:
16 people left. 1 brother, 1 yt leader + 2 recruits next night = 4 people
1 green leader + bodyguard(abenson?) + night 1 night 2 night 3 recruits = 5 people
7 townies
then the next night = 4 townies, 6 green, 6 YT
The "neutral victory" is still very fucking far away
The YT are at a disadvantage, and the town needs to protect them, as they can't afford to recruit the green leader. If that happens, the town has surely lost. There has been WAY too much focus on the YT this turn. It would be much more beneficial to hunt who is the 3rd faction leader (likely BC), or the actual YT leader (i repeat it is NOT trez, he is a brother)
Seems like the YT should just come out then...So we can knock them off the list, AMIRITE?
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On May 25 2010 20:10 Bill Murray wrote:I have an idea. Daykill me to prove that I am telling the truth about Trez not being the leader. I am really wanting a neutral victory, and that is why I have been posting considerably less since my recruitment. I am not going to hand you all the leader on a silver platter, but just trust me on this Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT
Or day kill trez, let you die with the rest of the yt (and if you don't tap you and scamp tonight)
Seems like that way is more cost effective in uses...right?
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On May 25 2010 22:44 Fishball wrote:
In the morning at work right now and checking the thread.
lol @ Xelin and BM.
I can mock Xelin so hard (his logic is on par in Ace's game), but I have no time, or have the effort to do so.
I've already mentioned many times, feel free to have Tricode check me. I am not Liu Bei. If you think my actions, logic, and motives thus far have not been helping the neutral, then so be it.
First off, I did not ask or started a bandwagon to have people vote for me. To me, people voting for me is a vote of confidence, which I appreciate.
Our current situation is a very similar to L early on; People jumping out and causing distractions. I don't give a flying f***. As I say again, these are all distractions.
Trezeguet23 will die tonight.
Right now, Tricode is our most trustworthy figure. If he lies and mislead us, he dies, simple as that. Until then, we have no reason whatsoever NOT to trust him.
Also, to all those finger-pointing-people. Let's assume I am Liu Bei, it doesn't change the fact that we will at least have a mutual goal in this situation, which is to eliminate the YT.
Carry on, will check back at noon.
Eh, I'm not down with killing tricode if he "lies." He didn't lie the first time, and we were about to kill him. Hesmyrr the Neutral saved him. BM claims to of bussed him so who knows wtf goes down.
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