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On May 25 2010 18:55 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2010 18:29 Bill Murray wrote:
I am suspicious that some of you all are lying to the town, especially Tricode.
Trez PMed me stating that he was a "brother" , and that I was recruited, and much like Tricode I was kept in the dark a lot. I bussed Trez with Scamp last night, thinking I would be helping my faction. Although I'm not sure at all what faction I'm in, I wanted to keep him out of dodge last night
just in case he wasn't lying. Therefore, if Trez came up with recruitment powers, it is because Scamp has them.
If Scamp does not come back as it then Caller must be fucking with me, or Tricode is lying. It is that simple.
Here is the plan:
1)We kill Scamp with the daylynch, as he will have 2 night lives
2)We kill Trez using Abenson (assuming Abenson isn't YT or wants neutral to win) he wont have two lives in the night, as there is no possible way that he is the YT leader because of my bus.
3) If this scenario isn't cleared up we lynch whoever has been lying to us (likely tricode, trez, scamp)
IMPORTANT
As Abenson isn't "cleared", which makes me suspect Fishball, I say we give our armies to Radfield. Well I know that I am not the YT leader, or any leader for that matter, so there is something wrong with your plan. Can you please show the PM that Trez sent you stating that he was a "brother"? I'm not even sure that Tricode checked Trez and saw two night lives. He does seem to post to that effect, but I'd like to hear him explicitly say so. Lastly, what is up with you listing me for step 3? You're not only implying that I can survive a day lynch, but also that I have some sort of lie in this whole ordeal. I personally think you're lying about bus driving. I want to know exactly what the effect says it does in your role PM. I also want to know who you bus drove during the first night. Not to mention Yuan Shao is an iffy claim in the first place.
also why did you question my claiming yuan shao lord of the north?
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On May 25 2010 19:13 XeliN wrote:
Ok BillMurray DID NOT Bus anyone as he was roleblocked, ignore his claim.
oh, shit i forgot about that
that would make sense then as to why i would think it was scamp when it wasn't
sorry scamp, i guess that clarifies things
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sucks i wasted my damn bus thanks xelin
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unless xelin is the other brother i dont know about and he is lying through his teeth.......
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trez isn't the leader according to his claim to me
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in his pm he claims to be a brother, not the primary leader
to be honest, the proper thing to do is to roleblock him and nightkill him
we should use our lynch to try and get the actual leader
i KNOW he isn't the leader, he is one of the 2 they started with
His claim to me in a PM:
they started 1 leader 2 brothers
the brothers got to pick to recruit night 1, but get to recruit 1 they vote on nightly now, with members other than the leader "Hey, so kind of obvious, but think about who we are recruiting next, you get an equal vote, hope we don't split 2-2 or 1-1-1-1."
the leader gets to recruit every night excluded from this
trez doesn't even know who the leader himself is, only who the other brother is
killing trez will not stop the YT menace, as it will not be cutting the head off. they will still get 2 recruits a night.
that's one thing we can be SURE of. Since we need to kill the leader, and he only gets to vote with 1 other brother on who to recruit, we would only be limiting
We need to find the actual leader, not lynch trez.
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IM TRYING TO SAVE YOU ALL BUT YOU WONT LISTEN
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On May 25 2010 19:21 Scamp wrote:
I question the claim of Yuan Shao because he is a prominent figure, no doubt, but his role in the events of history were before the era of the three kingdoms.
I'm curious, though. You did not receive notification that you were roleblocked? Because I also missed it if it was said earlier that you were roleblocked.
i was not notified of being roleblocked
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i am guessing either it didn't happen and xelin is lying, or caller made a mistake
it could also be that tricode is lying
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you being a liar is the most likely scenario
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To: Caller [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mafiya
Date: May 24 2010 07:55
busdrive trez and scamp
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to me the likely pairing seems to be Scamp/XeliN for the other brother and the head head with the head head being scamp. it would be the only explanation for what happened unless trez was lying and there isnt another brother in the first place which is a possibility.
when we lynch scamp, we can roleblock trez if i'm wrong, and have abenson visit him
no big deal
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Caller must have been extremely busy last night, I have pms with him he has yet to answer for instance. I am assuming my abilities went through, but if they didn't, someone is lying (whether it be trez or tricode). If they did, you are a liar, and we lynch you after Scamp because this town can't go on not following LaL.
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On May 25 2010 19:38 XeliN wrote:
tbh I swear your lying, this game doesn't even make sense theme wise to have a role such as Bus Driver..
he didn't name it, he just gave me a (hint, hint) you can swap player A and player B
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"Subject: You're Dumb
Date: 5/25/10 19:41
I legitimately did Roleblock you and if you have actually been reading the thread it ought be fairly obvious I am not lying about my ability. The only thing I could be lying about is whether I actually Roleblocked someone else but am pretending to have Blocked you to get you lynch or have your claims made less credible."
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On May 25 2010 19:46 XeliN wrote:LOL Bill, if your going to quote the PM I just sent you at least have the decency to do so in it's entirety. Show nested quote + To: Bill Murray [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: You're Dumb
Date: 5/25/10 19:41
I legitimately did Roleblock you and if you have actually been reading the thread it ought be fairly obvious I am not lying about my ability. The only thing I could be lying about is whether I actually Roleblocked someone else but am pretending to have Blocked you to get you lynch or have your claims made less credible.
I am not doing any of that however, I legitimately Roleblocked you last night, work your thinking around that fact and then come to some conclusions.
Or your working for a team//ulterior motive in which case your kinda dumb but I have to respect your persistence.
dirty of you to add onto that
foul play
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lol 
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jeez i really have to explain this again...
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THERE ARE 3 YT AT THE START
1 LEADER
2 BROTHERS
THEY RECRUIT 2 PER NIGHT
LEADER PICKS 1 PLAYER
2 BROTHERS + RECRUITS THEY TRUST VOTE ON 2ND PLAYER
BROTHERS = 2 NIGHT LIVES
Though he came back with 2 night lives and the ability to recruit (through voting), killing Trez will be a mistake in that it will not set them back as much as you think.
Lets do the math on this following your plan:
On May 11 2010 06:08 Caller wrote:
Signups:
1. Bill Murray
2. Hesmyrr
3. johnnyspazz
4. Radfield
5. Scamp
6. Ohn
7. Falcynn
8. Iaaan
9. L Sun Quan
10. BloodyCobbler
11. MyHeroNoob
12. Xelin
13. BrownBear
14. Tricode
15. TwotoneTerran
16. Abenson
17. ~Opz~
18. Barth Diao Chan
19. Trezequet23
20. Fishball
21. Lunardestiny
22. Last Romantic Cao Cao
23. DarthThienAn
24. Jugan
16 people left. 1 brother, 1 yt leader + 2 recruits next night = 4 people
1 green leader + bodyguard(abenson?) + night 1 night 2 night 3 recruits = 5 people
7 townies
then the next night = 4 townies, 6 green, 6 YT
The "neutral victory" is still very fucking far away
The YT are at a disadvantage, and the town needs to protect them, as they can't afford to recruit the green leader. If that happens, the town has surely lost. There has been WAY too much focus on the YT this turn. It would be much more beneficial to hunt who is the 3rd faction leader (likely BC), or the actual YT leader (i repeat it is NOT trez, he is a brother)
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