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Aside from Fishball and his refusal to cooperate:
Bill Murray - Yuan Shao
He said his ability is a poor general which isn't historically true. Yuan Shao is a little bit above average general.
BloodyCobbler - Huang Gai
Huang Gai plays a much smaller role than other character claimed. But the movie/battle "Battle of Red Cliff" is the most famous battle in ROTK and Huang Gai plays a significant role in it.
Trezequet23 - Cao Pi (copied from previous so this is more in depth)
Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history.
However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi.
Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game.
Futhermore, Cao Pi automatically getting recruited into Wei is questionable. If I was Caller, I would pick the Sun Jian->Sun Ce->Sun Quan succeeding process since all three play significant role in history. Cao Pi didn't do much for Wei accept being the emperor.
It is also likely that Caller picked a couple of minor roles since he said he randomize the process.
Lastly, it is sad to say my character (Xu Zhu) acts mostly as the bodyguard for Cao Cao. His most significant achievement is his duel against Ma Chao when Cao Cao is attacking the Xi Liang which earned him the nickname "Crazy Tiger".
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Liu Ci was the Emperor for Shu also and he sucks hardcore.
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ohN, you are the only two guys left without giving us your character name (not role).
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Yes, Liu Ci is the roughly ping yin name.
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Wait I screwed up with the ping yin too. Yeah, Liu Shan is what I was refering to.
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Only Ohn has not name claim.
Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)
2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)
DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51)
3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43)
Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56)
+ Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] +On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.
Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.
I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here. cos thats my character, meng huo <_<
+ Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] +On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,
I'm Ma Chao.
sup yo. If you are Ma Chao, what's your power? Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is. Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao. Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of. At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying. Yeah I was just fishing ^^. On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote:
To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D.
I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time:
I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o
I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway.
+ Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] +On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.
I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.
That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.
My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead. Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask.
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Radfield claims to be Zhuge Liang. You are a dumbass if you mess with him.
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Yes, I spent to much time on this. It is burning me out greatly.
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What happened to Caller? Nothing is going to happen without him.
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Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)
Fishball unclaims Meng Huo (p.60)
2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)
DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51)
3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43)
Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56)
+ Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] +On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.
Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.
I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here. cos thats my character, meng huo <_<
+ Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] +On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,
I'm Ma Chao.
sup yo. If you are Ma Chao, what's your power? Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is. Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao. Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of. At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying. Yeah I was just fishing ^^. On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote:
To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D.
I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time:
I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o
I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway.
+ Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] +On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.
I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.
That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.
My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead. Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask.
Order of name claim (Bold is certain) (contradictory roles underlined):
1.Last Romantic (Cao Cao)
2.Barth (Diao Chan)
3.~Opz~ (Lu Bu)
4.Abenson (Taishi Ci)
5.Hesmyrr (Lu Xun)
6.Tricode (Lu Meng)
7.XeliN (Jiang Wei)
8.BrownBear (Zhao Yun)
9.Radfield (Zhuge Liang)
10.LunarDestiny (Xu Zhu)
11.Bill Murray (Yuan Shao)
12.Trezeguet23 (Cao Pi)
13.Falcynn (Sima Yi)
14.Scamp (Guan Yu)
15.BloodyC0bbler (Huang Gai)
16.johnnyspazz (Zhang Liao)
17.TwoToneTerran (Ma Chao)
18.MyHeroNoob (Meng Huo)
19.DarthThienAn (Zhou Yu)
20.L (Sun Quan)
21.Jugan (Zhang Fei)
22.Iaaan (Cao Pi)
23.ohN (Pang Tong)
24.FishBall (unknown)
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Someone had to do that name claim order list (shit list) for future reference anyway. Might as well do it myself. Such a pain.
I don't think there is any mistake.
I did not take account of hints of DarthAnThien. I did not take account of reason why people don't want to name claim earlier than they had.
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What you can take away from the name claim list is the likelihood of being Liu Bei or Zhang Jiao. Underlings of Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao are safe even if they truthfully name claim their roles.
Only Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao who are reluctant to truthfully name claim would post later and try not a repeat a name posted before.
There is a high possibility that Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao did name claimed early but they got away with it since there are TONS of important characters in ROTK.
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Bill Murray, I think Fishball and MyHeroNoob who name claimed Meng Huo are not likely to be the third faction leader (not saying that they are not likely to be Zhang Jiao (leader of Yellow Turban)).
The reason is they both claim to have the ability to escape recruitment.
Think about it this way:
If either is a faction leader, they WANT Zhang Jiao to recruit them which will kill Zhang Jiao instantly.
Again, I am saying they are not likely to be the third faction leader. I have no idea if either is Zhang Jiao or not.
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Oh shit, I just came up with a good idea. Abenson (YT killer) whould target either MyHeroNoob or Fishball since they are suspicious. They are also not likely to be a faction leader. They are also not likely to know they are recruited by Liu Bei since it is unlikely that Liu Bei contacted them.
My argument why it is unlikely to Liu Bei contacted his recruit is there is more con than pro by contacting his recruit. By now, Liu Bei should only have one recruit which does not give him significant control over the voting. By contacting his recruit, the recruit might not be loyal to him 100% since there is a chance he would be recruited by YT after. By contacting his recruit, it gives away his identity which would be bad if YT recruited this person or this person reveal his lord's identity. It is better for faction leader to contact his recruits in the mid to late game where he can greatly influence the voting.
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The fuck. Abenson did what I was going to recommend to him. Nice.
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Abenson hitting on Fishball is enough. Tricode please don't waste your role check on Fishball because he is not likely to be the 3rd faction leader Liu Bei or a recruit of Liu Bei.
Copied from page 60:
On May 24 2010 14:18 LunarDestiny wrote:
Bill Murray, I think Fishball and MyHeroNoob who name claimed Meng Huo are not likely to be the third faction leader (not saying that they are not likely to be Zhang Jiao (leader of Yellow Turban)).
The reason is they both claim to have the ability to escape recruitment.
Think about it this way:
If either is a faction leader, they WANT Zhang Jiao to recruit them which will kill Zhang Jiao instantly.
Again, I am saying they are not likely to be the third faction leader. I have no idea if either is Zhang Jiao or not.
On May 24 2010 14:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
Oh shit, I just came up with a good idea. Abenson (YT killer) whould target either MyHeroNoob or Fishball since they are suspicious. They are also not likely to be a faction leader. They are also not likely to know they are recruited by Liu Bei since it is unlikely that Liu Bei contacted them.
My argument why it is unlikely to Liu Bei contacted his recruit is there is more con than pro by contacting his recruit. By now, Liu Bei should only have one recruit which does not give him significant control over the voting. By contacting his recruit, the recruit might not be loyal to him 100% since there is a chance he would be recruited by YT after. By contacting his recruit, it gives away his identity which would be bad if YT recruited this person or this person reveal his lord's identity. It is better for faction leader to contact his recruits in the mid to late game where he can greatly influence the voting.
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Ah, the results are in. So now Jugan is dead... Do we know if he is a neutral or a recruit?
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Okay, people time to tell us what you did last night and the result you got.
My role (Xu Zhu) sucks so I can't do anything.
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Contradictions:
1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47)
MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50)
Fishball unclaims Meng Huo (p.60)
2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47)
TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49)
DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49)
DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51)
3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43)
Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56)
+ Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] +On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me.
Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST.
I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. On May 22 2010 18:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 18:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Myheronoob, why are you posting pic here. cos thats my character, meng huo <_< On May 24 2010 13:02 Fishball wrote:
Ok, got some free time now so here it goes.
I am not Meng Huo.
I claimed Meng Huo for only one reason; To avoid being recruited.
Who would want to recruit a player that does not have any special abilities besides deserting his own faction? I know the Three Kingdoms very well, which allows me to come up with this role. Guess what, Meng Huo with the exact same ability I came up with actually exist in this game (assuming that MyHeroNoob is also telling the truth, and did not "make up" the same role like I did).
+ Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] +On May 22 2010 13:40 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 13:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:On May 22 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
before I go, so that i don't killed while I'm away,
I'm Ma Chao.
sup yo. If you are Ma Chao, what's your power? Because, funnily enough, I am Ma Chao and my power isn't all that thrilling but atleast I know what it is. Don't just name the first tiger general that comes to your head. It's obvious you were fishing for a response, because there's no way someone ISN'T Ma Chao. Hell, don't even give me the power, give me the reason for his power -- the logic behind what Ma Chao is capable of. At this point I'm going to vote for anyone who wants to take you out as you're blatantly lying. Yeah I was just fishing ^^. On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote:
To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D.
I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time:
I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o
I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway.
+ Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] +On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.
I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.
That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.
My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead. Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask.
Order of name claim (Bold is certain) (contradictory roles underlined):
1.Last Romantic (Cao Cao)
2.Barth (Diao Chan)
3.~Opz~ (Lu Bu)
4.Abenson (Taishi Ci)
5.Hesmyrr (Lu Xun)
6.Tricode (Lu Meng)
7.XeliN (Jiang Wei)
8.BrownBear (Zhao Yun)
9.Radfield (Zhuge Liang)
10.LunarDestiny (Xu Zhu)
11.Bill Murray (Yuan Shao)
12.Trezeguet23 (Cao Pi)
13.Falcynn (Sima Yi)
14.Scamp (Guan Yu)
15.BloodyC0bbler (Huang Gai)
16.johnnyspazz (Zhang Liao)
17.TwoToneTerran (Ma Chao)
18.MyHeroNoob (Meng Huo)
19.DarthThienAn (Zhou Yu)
20.L (Sun Quan)
21.Jugan (Zhang Fei)
22.Iaaan (Cao Pi)
23.ohN (Pang Tong)
24.FishBall (unknown)
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