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On May 22 2010 08:26 Hesmyrr wrote: I'm back. First off, I agree with the idea of mass name-claim. This is exactly what BrownBear suggested we do in day 1, and though there wasn't that much time remaining in the day for this to happen, there are definitely enough time today for us to pull this off. With so many cults, if we are going to pull this victory though we have to pressure recruiters right then, right now. It is true having list of names publicized increases the recruiter's influence as day passes, but if we don't have these recruiters weeded out within early to mid-game, we as a Town are screwed already anyway.
Secondly, the vig hit is beneficial because it ensures that vig shot is used in town's benefit instead of having it kill some random neutral. Moreover having both Abenson and BrownBear acting on the night eliminates the possibility of doubt on the ensuing death, since there is no way in hell L could recruit both at the same time to influence their answer (I will in fact be protecting either of these two, so if any recruiters try feel free to join the mindfuck lol). Moreover I asked watcher to watch L, so if anyone drops in to influence the results, we are going to be on top of it.
And I love how you keep trying to draw town's attention from the main matter at hand; YT's strength will grow rapidly with increasing days, and would do anything in its power to soak up the lynches. Your lie has been counted perfectly by my roleclaim (which came before yours) and now your argument boils down to how "L will weasle his way out of lynch tomorrow" while any logical player would realize if that you TRULY were genuine in your claim my plan ensures there are no escape route L can take.
Exactly. I would say that, unless we get 1 or 2 more recruiters soon, the metagame is going to switch somewhere around day 4 from "neutrals vs. factions" to "factions vs. factions, with neutrals as the pawns."
Also, since Abenson can only kill YT players, apparently, we would want to have him target people we think are Yellow Turbans? Or does he just have a straight nightkill that got blocked by you?
Either way, my plan is to hit L tonight. And it looks like I'm going to be winning the dayvote, I think, so now is the time for people to start posting who they want me to kill. Right now, I'm assuming it's Tricode, since that will tell us a lot about L, and whether he's lying or not, but if people (besides Tricode, you don't get to have a say anymore) have a convincing argument for someone else I'm listening.
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So if you lynch Tricode and he dies. Will Caller tell us if he is sane or not?
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That really depends on Caller
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Then what will we react if Caller said Tricode the detective was lynched and dies.
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Radfield
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On May 22 2010 08:39 LunarDestiny wrote: So if you lynch Tricode and he dies. Will Caller tell us if he is sane or not?
I would say no.
barth, aka Diao Chan, was found dead.
This was all we got when Barth died. No mention of roles whatsoever. I think we'll just get alignment and name, no role.
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That's unlikely, because DT checks alignment, so Tricode would likely (if anything) be rolecop.
That would mean either Caller fucked up, or rolecop check goes through Hesmyrr's block, or Hesmyrr himself is lying. Basically, it's a whole 'nother clusterfuck I really don't want to have to get into unless it's absolutely necessary 
Also, be aware that there are still 10 people yet to vote.
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Radfield
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Also, when Last Romantic died, we got his name and alignment, but not his powers. We only found out about his veteran ability from LR's death post.
So don't plan on learning anything about people roles when they die
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I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.
I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me. I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.
That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.
My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks
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On May 22 2010 03:44 Hesmyrr wrote: I am Lu Xun. I can protect one person from night actions from every night. I asked Caller, and he said my protection overrides everything, including recruitment/NK/investigation etc. I said encryption codes to ~Opz~ day 1 so you can feel pretty confident in my roleclaim (I did leave out NK bit, but we traded names and I was afraid Lu Bu was serial killer. Tricode did fix himself to being an DT so I suppose it won't matter). I am obviously speaking up because I protected L last night, and thus know what Tricode is saying cannot be true. It is likely that he is Yellow Turban and is trying to waste today's kill. Either way it is clear to me neither of these two cannot be Yellow Turban leader.
This is why I propose an alternative plan; Tracker contacted me via PM and stated Radfield was visited by Xelin. He is kind of lurkish and kind of off everyone's radar, but I believe we have better chance of hitting faction leader by targetting Xelin instead of either Tricode or L. This is my plan: we pick one Townie other than me, L, or Tricode, and tell him to NK Xelin. At the upcoming night we can clarify this Tricode-L situation by having Abenson target Tricode- this will definiely prove he is YT. If Tricode does not die, then I'll accept he is genuine in his claim and I fucked up somewhere (lol Caller), and just lynch him day 3.
Rereading the thread...
Question:
You protected L, right? Protects him from everything... including Abenson's attempted hit on him, yea?
Talking about this:
On May 21 2010 22:19 Abenson wrote: First of all, I would like to point out that L is not yellow Why? I am Taishi Ci, a Yellow Turban killer. I have the ability to visit a person each night, and if he's yellow, he dies. I visited L, and he didn't die. I still believe he's a faction leader, but I want to confirm he's not yellow.
Therefore, L is not necessarily cleared.
But, Tricode is still lying. soo. yeah, just keep this in mind.
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On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote: I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.
I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me. I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically, even if I was YT.
That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.
Facepalm.
Name, not role >> would've been a really good role to (luckily) kill FLs.
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Alright, was waiting for a clarification from caller since he spelled my name "Sima I" in the PM I got so I wanted to make sure if he meant Sima Yi, or if there's actually another character named Sima I.
So anyways, I'm claiming Sima Yi
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Trezeguet probably say his ability because Cao Pi succeeded Cao Cao after he died. And remember that annoying "wei has fallen... for now"
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SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT!! Caller Screws Up Again! (really)
Watcher just contacted me. He said that Caller just messaged him, telling him he screwed up and forgot to tell him until now that DarthThienan also visited Radfield along with Xelin. Exactly 25 minutes ago DarthThienAn actually PM'd me asking "who visited radfield?" so I think his statement is legit. Looks like L wasn't the only one who was popular last night >.>
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Damn, I never thought I am playing Fucked Up Three Kingdoms Mafia.
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Radfield
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Yeah, me and Darth had a PM chat about an hour ago and figured that Caller must have messed up.
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On May 22 2010 08:46 Radfield wrote: Also, when Last Romantic died, we got his name and alignment, but not his powers. We only found out about his veteran ability from LR's death post.
So don't plan on learning anything about people roles when they die
Yeah, you posted that while I was typing, saw it after I posted ><
So, to shut Tricode up, I'm also going to say this: I am planning to hit L tonight. If he is a faction leader, though, he has two lives, so I think to be completely safe about this, anyone else who has nightkilling powers should also target L tonight.
This way, we ensure he dies, and what he flips as tells us important information. If he lives through the night, that tells us nothing and we've wasted another day. Therefore, if you have a nightkill and are reading this, PLEASE target L with it.
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Radfield
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On May 22 2010 08:55 LunarDestiny wrote: Trezeguet probably say his ability because Cao Pi succeeded Cao Cao after he died. And remember that annoying "wei has fallen... for now"
haha, I wonder if Trez becomes a faction leader on Day 4.... He just screwed himself if thats the case
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On May 22 2010 08:55 Hesmyrr wrote: SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT!! Caller Screws Up Again! (really)
Watcher just contacted me. He said that Caller just messaged him, telling him he screwed up and forgot to tell him until now that DarthThienan also visited Radfield along with Xelin. Exactly 25 minutes ago DarthThienAn actually PM'd me asking "who visited radfield?" so I think his statement is legit. Looks like L wasn't the only one who was popular last night >.>
Oh snap. What does this say about DarthThienAn, now? He was the only person who voted for L during the earlier "hey let's kill L cause Tricode rolechecked him" bandwagon before that one got blown to shit.
See, I knew that Radfield would get visited a bunch after being so successful on day one. Called it. Fucking called it ^^
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Radfield
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OK, people who haven't name claimed:
3. johnnyspazz 5. Scamp 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 20. Fishball 24. Jugan
Interesting to note that Scamp actually claimed NO power earlier in the thread, which at this point, seems very suspicious. I think Scamp might just be a Faction Leader. Thoughts?
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Radfield admitted it immediately on the open though- pretty suicidal move if DarthThienAn really was recruiter. Of course, it could all be advanced WIFOM...
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