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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 22 2010 19:06 GMT
#1060
Hesmyrr was the only person that PM'd me at the beginning regarding a neutral victory.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 22 2010 20:06 GMT
#1072
On May 23 2010 05:04 LunarDestiny wrote:
So only 3 hours till night begins. I have a bad feeling I won't make it pass the night...


This isn't "Mafia".
Unless leaders can tell their recruits with KP to actually kill someone, or a random neutral decided to kill you just because, then it is pretty much impossible for you to die.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 22 2010 20:14 GMT
#1075
On May 23 2010 05:09 LunarDestiny wrote:
The fact the Diao Chan dies out of nowhere in Night 1 still bothers me.


People taking their chances of being a hero by trying to snipe a Leader.
Happens every game.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 22 2010 20:47 GMT
#1082
On May 23 2010 05:29 Radfield wrote:
Ask and yee shall receive Bill. Two people have not name claimed, and Fishball actually name claimed two different names. I might have missed some stuff so if anyone see's any omission let me know.

1. Bill Murray yuan shao
2. Hesmyrr Action Blocker Lu Xun
3. johnnyspazz Zhang Liao
4. Radfield Zhuge Liang
5. Scamp Guan Yu
6. Ohn
7. Falcynn Sima Yi
8. Iaaan
9. L Sun Quan
10. BloodyCobbler Huang Gai
11. MyHeroNoob Able to desert Meng Huo
12. Xelin Roleblocking Jian Wei
13. BrownBear Vigilante Zhao Yun
14. Tricode Role Cop Lu Meng
15. TwotoneTerran Ma Chao
16. Abenson YT Killer Taishi Ci
17. ~Opz~ No Role Lu Bu
18. Barth ??? Diao Chan
19. Trezequet23 Kills any leader who tries to recruit him Cao Pi
20. Fishball Able to desert Meng Huo AND Qin Shi Huang
21. Lunardestiny Xu Zhu
22. Last Romantic Leader Cao Cao
23. DarthThienAn zhou yu
24. Jugan Zhang Fei


Yes. My Qin Shi Huang role grants me the ability to kill you all with my pinky if I wanted too.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 22 2010 22:46 GMT
#1091
On May 23 2010 06:48 LunarDestiny wrote:
Liu Ci was the Emperor for Shu also and he sucks hardcore.


You mean Liu Shan, 劉禪
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Shan
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 23 2010 12:30 GMT
#1132
Are you guys seriously keeping Qin Shi Huang on the list?
I'm in total awe.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 23 2010 22:28 GMT
#1171
I think Caller is just too busy and missed that Hesmyrr would have gone down with L.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 23 2010 22:59 GMT
#1178
Like I said before, I'll be answering and clarifying our current situation after L's lynch.
Will post later after I deal with some crap.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 04:02 GMT
#1185
Ok, got some free time now so here it goes.

I am not Meng Huo.

I claimed Meng Huo for only one reason; To avoid being recruited.
Who would want to recruit a player that does not have any special abilities besides deserting his own faction? I know the Three Kingdoms very well, which allows me to come up with this role. Guess what, Meng Huo with the exact same ability I came up with actually exist in this game (assuming that MyHeroNoob is also telling the truth, and did not "make up" the same role like I did).

Earlier in the thread, I replied to Radfield with the following.

On May 22 2010 02:42 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 00:02 Radfield wrote:
I disagree, alignment/role checkers and Assassins would make excellent recruits. Sure they might decide to not help their leaders, but that goes for every role in the game.


No. Bodyguards roles and the such will not have a choice, as their abilities are passive.


My role has a passive ability, and if I were to be recruited, I would have no choice but to "help" my leader, whether I know it or not, want it or not.

----------

I am not a leader or recruiter.

When Hesmyrr brought up the neutral victory at the beginning, I was the first one to propose that a mass role claim would be needed (role claim, not just name claim).

On May 19 2010 09:04 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 06:08 Hesmyrr wrote:
Okay, guys.
On May 19 2010 04:50 Caller wrote:
a) no, they don't even know that they are recruited. The only one that gets any confirmation is the leader.

This is critical. The fact you don't even know which side you are working for - and I promise you nobody but YT will inform the "victim" of their target - is highly disadvantageous for us neutrals. Hell, you may be playing game as usual when BAM! faction leader being an idiot gets himself killed, and who suffers for it? Us! Do you want to suffer such ignominy? I tell you not! Eighteen other neutrals listening to my voice, ponder my speech.

I will tell you of an way out. We will rebel against the injustice and wrestle control of the game out of these so-called leader's grasps. I propose...

NEUTRAL REVOLUTION

Take note of the winning condition Caller has listed:
Victory is attained when one faction outnumbers all the other factions.

On May 11 2010 15:23 Caller wrote:
i should probably specify that when i say outnumber all other groups, i mean that one group has more than 50% of the total player population.


You know what this means? Even when there is one faction leader remaining, as long as he doesn't overwhelm us, he can't win. Let's pull a Battler and turn around the chessboard. What do you see?

I see a four cult game, with us neutrals as Townies.

Let me stress that.

OUR PRIORITY AS NEUTRALS IS TO HUNT DOWN THE FOUR FACTION LEADERS, AND KILL THEM ALL. THEN IT WILL BE "TOWN" VICTORY, SINCE NEUTRALS (TOWN) IS THE ONLY FACTION REMAINING.

This plan is beneficial for all of us, this is the plan that makes sense, and this is EXACTLY what we should be doing. Neutrals, we are no longer neutrals. We are now comrades fighting for mutual victory, struggling against the tyranny of the cults awaiting us. Hereby I dedicate myself into finding, and killing, all the leader in this game. Who agrees with me?!?!?


As cool as this idea sounds, it wouldn't really work. It is too hard to work, as all the neutrals would have to be on the same page.
Also, leaders can still "recruit" you whether you like it or not.
Still, I like this idea. I would be way more motivated to play for myself, instead of leader(player) I don't like.

For this to work, basically everyone has to role claim; Their character and powers. Then we organize our night and day KP, to trim down the leaders to two. We then kill them at the same time in order to prevent "a single party outnumbering the other" situation.
Of course there are a lot more smaller details to sort out, but this is the main idea.


BrownBear also PM'd me right away after I claimed Meng Huo. I could have easily abused this opportunity and lied if I were hostile to the neutrals. I didn't.

So your role is awesome, if it's true. Can you explain exactly how it works, please?

If you want collateral, just let me know, and I'll roleclaim to you first. I am still neutral.


LunarDestiny had a good read here.

On May 23 2010 03:54 LunarDestiny wrote:
For the case of Meng Huo's double claim. At least one of them is telling the truth. The other one... might not be a recruiter. What is bothering me is the remaining people who hasn't nameclaim. I ask one more time, please go forth and name claim.

Remaining 3:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
24. Jugan


----------

As for our current Night, I propose to have Tricode check me, just to further validate my creditability, as motive itself is never enough.

Regarding MyHeroNoob, even though he has been quiet all game, and we don't know whether his claim is fake or not, compared to the other dual claimers, he shouldn't be our focus right now.

In the past few pages, I noticed DarthThienAn has been trying to push the focus on the other two claim incidents, instead of his dual Ma Chao claim. Looks kinda fishy to me.

Trezequet23's claim of Cao Pi being able to kill the recruiter, if the recruiter isn't Cao Cao doesn't really make sense (Judging based on my knowledge of the Three Kingdoms). I would send Abenson on him, as I have a hunch he could be YT.

Iaaan's claim of Cao Pi being able to rebuild Wei after Cao Cao's death, if recruited by Cao Cao makes a bit more sense, but it is still a somewhat bizarre skill. Yet this is a Caller game, so who knows.

Right now, YT is still our biggest threat. If Abenson's role claim is true, his power is one of our best weapons. We want to kill YT/Leaders, but not trim down our neutral numbers in the case we are wrong. I would still propose role checking Abenson. We would never want to be lead blindly.

Like mentioned by others already, it is safe to assume YT already has at least 3-5 members right now. You might not know if you're recruited if they choose not to notify you. It is like a hidden plague amongst us. If we're lucky, we should be able to catch at least 2 original YT among these dual claims.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 05:41 GMT
#1196
Fine by me. Tricode check, or Abenson YT hit both works.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 05:43 GMT
#1197
On May 24 2010 14:11 Bill Murray wrote:
fishball for 3rd recruiter


Would be dumb if I'm a recruited and ask Tricode to check me, no?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 21:36 GMT
#1241
On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited?


You mean you are already recruited?
The leaders have a choice of notifying you that you got recruited. If you know you are already recruited, what faction recruited you? YT or Shu?
Also how does you power works if YT recruited you?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 21:39 GMT
#1242
On May 25 2010 03:38 BrownBear wrote:
Also, dammit, Fishball. I may have not had time to switch my night action off of MyHeroNoob.

I attempted to switch to Jugan, because dude hasn't been active at all and all the other doubleclaims are being taken care of. However, it might not have been in time. We'll see.


You still have plenty of time to switch.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 21:47 GMT
#1243
On May 25 2010 05:56 XeliN wrote:
I'll change it to Fishball if Caller allows, was going to go for him but then I remembered Bill was quite vocal and then after didnt say much which usually strikes me as suspicious. I didn't realise he'd alrdy claimed.


You can do whatever, but this move would just make me laugh as it is just a waste. The purpose of my post was to convince the general public that I am not a recruiter nor YT. Yes, ofcourse it doesn't proves my claim, hence the word convince. If my post doesn't make any sense, sure you can go ahead and use any further precaution on me, but if it does, then your action would be just flat out dumb.

Tricode's check, can prove that I am not a recruiter.
Abenson's hit, can prove that I am not an original YT (unless I'm recruited and not aware).

Your role block however, proves nothing, and acts only as a precaution.
If you went through my long post, and decide that I am still a better target for a valuable night action compared to others, be my guest.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 21:53 GMT
#1245
On May 25 2010 03:38 BrownBear wrote:
Also, dammit, Fishball. I may have not had time to switch my night action off of MyHeroNoob.

I attempted to switch to Jugan, because dude hasn't been active at all and all the other doubleclaims are being taken care of. However, it might not have been in time. We'll see.


Wait, so you really switched to Jugan over ohN, or any other dual claimers ;o
Though I kinda see where you're coming from picking Jugan.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 21:55 GMT
#1247
The fact that I lived, proves I'm not YT
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 21:57 GMT
#1250
I would say neutral, since the name is black.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 23:15 GMT
#1262
On May 25 2010 07:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Fishball, mind if you give us your character name. The reason is if one of us die and we didn't lie about our character name, the stuffs we said are highly believable.


There is a reason I said I'd rather have Tricode check me, instead of announcing my actual role.
Yes, I know you are just asking for the name, but let me just word it this way, my abilities and my name is tightly linked.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 23:19 GMT
#1263
On May 25 2010 07:30 LunarDestiny wrote:
Tricode you found a leader again... the chance of that. We also don't know if you are lying or not(no offense since you say you are now on the dark side (yellow turban)...

Trezeguet23, sorry to say but I got to believe that Tricode is telling the truth since he has good history for day 2. If he is lying, he probably will be one of our target in the future.


I'm not surprised if Tricode targeted Trezeguet23. He was one of my prime suspects. In my previous long post, he was the only person I advised to use a night action against.

On May 24 2010 13:02 Fishball wrote:
Trezequet23's claim of Cao Pi being able to kill the recruiter, if the recruiter isn't Cao Cao doesn't really make sense (Judging based on my knowledge of the Three Kingdoms). I would send Abenson on him, as I have a hunch he could be YT.


If Tricode is lying, he can only lie once, as if we lynch Trezeguet23 and he turned out to be something else, it would be the end of Tricode.

The course of action here is pretty much straight forward.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 24 2010 23:23 GMT
#1264
On May 25 2010 07:23 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 07:00 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I also did nothing, except have a full body cavity search performed on me.


To only find you have the ability to recruit and 2 night hits. Congrats!

ADD:

Ok, I have some good news and some bad news.

Which do you prefer to hear?

Well to bad, I get to pick for you. Bad news first.

I have forced into slavery to work for the YTs! Isn't that great! But unfortunately for these idiots they haven't told me who I'm working for or anything other then I have been recruited for them.

Good news time!

Well even though I was recruited I don't know who I'm working for so I will just continue my goal of killing leaders and guess who is our next Target! That's right Trezeguet23!

Now I have a proposal! There might be a chance he is YT! Well if he is, I die with him. But what if we role block him and let me find the other leader?

This might cause problems in the long run, but the town can take that chance if they want. Remember it is just a proposal. So it's up to you the neutrals to decide what to do.

Otherwise down with Trezeguet23!


So they actually choose to notify you they recruited you. Seems they did that to observe your reaction.
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