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On May 22 2010 07:47 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 07:36 L wrote:On May 22 2010 07:34 Radfield wrote:
Can someone please explain why Tricode would lie about L being a leader??
Because he probably hit me and had the hit blocked by Lu Xun, then figured that a role with night defence had to be a ruler. Since he's had it out for me since prior to day 1 ending, it makes sense that he'd try to wagon me. If he's right? Awesome, he gains massive cred. If he's wrong? Tricode doesn't think about such things. Or much in general anyways. Yeah, presumably he had some KP that was blocked, and made the jump to assuming you had veteran powers-------> must be a faction leader. Not a particularly bad assumption, but a real bad game plan to claim rolecop....
So then, Tricode would be the vig that hit L besides me, then? That would make more sense. Also it would make Tricode an idiot to claim rolecop...
Actually, Tricode has stated that if we sic Abenson (can only kill YTs) on him, then he will die. It would make sense for YT to start with a KP, actually... the pieces are all starting to come together. I think Tricode is a Yellow Turban. Not the YT recruiter... but he's more likely than not to be a member.
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Thanks for all the help, Darth. Real great analysis you posted there. :/
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On May 22 2010 08:15 Bill Murray wrote:
so im supposed to say my character name?
Looks like it. You can choose not to, of course, but that's gonna throw a ton of suspicion on you.
I recommend you say your name, but not your role. Leaves it pretty ambiguous :D
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On May 22 2010 08:26 Hesmyrr wrote:
I'm back. First off, I agree with the idea of mass name-claim. This is exactly what BrownBear suggested we do in day 1, and though there wasn't that much time remaining in the day for this to happen, there are definitely enough time today for us to pull this off. With so many cults, if we are going to pull this victory though we have to pressure recruiters right then, right now. It is true having list of names publicized increases the recruiter's influence as day passes, but if we don't have these recruiters weeded out within early to mid-game, we as a Town are screwed already anyway.
Secondly, the vig hit is beneficial because it ensures that vig shot is used in town's benefit instead of having it kill some random neutral. Moreover having both Abenson and BrownBear acting on the night eliminates the possibility of doubt on the ensuing death, since there is no way in hell L could recruit both at the same time to influence their answer (I will in fact be protecting either of these two, so if any recruiters try feel free to join the mindfuck lol). Moreover I asked watcher to watch L, so if anyone drops in to influence the results, we are going to be on top of it.
And I love how you keep trying to draw town's attention from the main matter at hand; YT's strength will grow rapidly with increasing days, and would do anything in its power to soak up the lynches. Your lie has been counted perfectly by my roleclaim (which came before yours) and now your argument boils down to how "L will weasle his way out of lynch tomorrow" while any logical player would realize if that you TRULY were genuine in your claim my plan ensures there are no escape route L can take.
Exactly. I would say that, unless we get 1 or 2 more recruiters soon, the metagame is going to switch somewhere around day 4 from "neutrals vs. factions" to "factions vs. factions, with neutrals as the pawns."
Also, since Abenson can only kill YT players, apparently, we would want to have him target people we think are Yellow Turbans? Or does he just have a straight nightkill that got blocked by you?
Either way, my plan is to hit L tonight. And it looks like I'm going to be winning the dayvote, I think, so now is the time for people to start posting who they want me to kill. Right now, I'm assuming it's Tricode, since that will tell us a lot about L, and whether he's lying or not, but if people (besides Tricode, you don't get to have a say anymore) have a convincing argument for someone else I'm listening.
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That really depends on Caller 
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That's unlikely, because DT checks alignment, so Tricode would likely (if anything) be rolecop.
That would mean either Caller fucked up, or rolecop check goes through Hesmyrr's block, or Hesmyrr himself is lying. Basically, it's a whole 'nother clusterfuck I really don't want to have to get into unless it's absolutely necessary
Also, be aware that there are still 10 people yet to vote.
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On May 22 2010 08:46 Radfield wrote:
Also, when Last Romantic died, we got his name and alignment, but not his powers. We only found out about his veteran ability from LR's death post.
So don't plan on learning anything about people roles when they die
Yeah, you posted that while I was typing, saw it after I posted ><
So, to shut Tricode up, I'm also going to say this: I am planning to hit L tonight. If he is a faction leader, though, he has two lives, so I think to be completely safe about this, anyone else who has nightkilling powers should also target L tonight.
This way, we ensure he dies, and what he flips as tells us important information. If he lives through the night, that tells us nothing and we've wasted another day. Therefore, if you have a nightkill and are reading this, PLEASE target L with it.
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On May 22 2010 08:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT!!
Caller Screws Up Again! (really)
Watcher just contacted me. He said that Caller just messaged him, telling him he screwed up and forgot to tell him until now that DarthThienan also visited Radfield along with Xelin. Exactly 25 minutes ago DarthThienAn actually PM'd me asking "who visited radfield?" so I think his statement is legit. Looks like L wasn't the only one who was popular last night >.>
Oh snap. What does this say about DarthThienAn, now? He was the only person who voted for L during the earlier "hey let's kill L cause Tricode rolechecked him" bandwagon before that one got blown to shit.
See, I knew that Radfield would get visited a bunch after being so successful on day one. Called it. Fucking called it ^^
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On May 22 2010 09:01 Hesmyrr wrote:
Radfield admitted it immediately on the open though- pretty suicidal move if DarthThienAn really was recruiter. Of course, it could all be advanced WIFOM...
This game is just so nuts at this point anyway, honestly anything is possible. that list of people who haven't namedropped should be a good list to start with though, after this whole Tricode-L thing is cleared up.
Again, to everyone who cares, as of right now I'm choosing to hit Tricode if I win the day vote. If you want it to be otherwise, and your name isn't Tricode, please speak up sooner rather than later.
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Well, enough people seem to be vehemently against me lynching Tricode tonight, so I don't think I will unless everyone else wants to. Right now, I'm looking at either someone who hasn't claimed a name yet as my possible target, or XeliN or DTA, since they were the two who visited Radfield last night (rules clarification: does medic protection/Hesmyrr protrection count as a visit?) If medic protection counts as a visit, its likely one of those two is actually medic-equivalent, and was trying to protect him... I am unsure. Also, DTA, quit fuckin around and actually nameclaim. Unless I missed it somewhere, you've just been trolling the last 5 pages or so, which is only succeeding at making me suspect you more.
SO. As it stands, this is the list I'm looking at right now.
On May 22 2010 09:01 Radfield wrote:
OK, people who haven't name claimed:
3. johnnyspazz
**SCAMP HAS NAMECLAIMED**
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
10. BloodyCobbler (his absence from all of this is actually kinda confusing)
11. MyHeroNoob
20. Fishball (as is his)
24. Jugan
BrownBear's additions:
DarthThienAn: for being annoying and trolling the thread, plus as far as I can see he hasn't seriously nameclaimed yet.
Tricode: Unlikely, given people want to let him live, but as long as at least one person wants to kill him, he'll remain on here.
Thoughts?
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I think Tricode is a low priority target - by all normal logic he's scummy, but in this game, just daykilling scum isn't going to cut it since they can make, and as long as there's more than one faction they'll outpace our daykilling. If we don't have a better lead to go on, he's probably dead, but I'm confident we can figure out a better target than him. There's still almost 24 hours left in the cycle after all.
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Also, if Darth name and roleclaimed to you, then he's above suspicion I suppose. Still annoying, though 
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On May 22 2010 10:13 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 07:41 L wrote:On May 22 2010 07:36 LunarDestiny wrote:
Hmm... that leads me asking the question: Why did Caller gave L a character in her other name (子) (think middle name)
We all got the our characters in last name then first name.
ex. Zhao Yun(趙雲) and not Zhao Zi Long(趙子龍)
me Xu Zhu(許褚) and not Xu Zhòng kāng(許仲康) Fishball gave you the name for Sun Shangxian. Not Sun Ren. Sun Ren is 孫仁. She has a different name in ROTK, afaik. No I didn't.
There you are! Nameclaim pls?
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On May 22 2010 10:32 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wow, Fishball got a baller roll. If that is true, we should give Fishball our army everyday after we do a rolecheck on him to confirm it.
That wastes a rolecheck every single night = not a good idea. I'm more curious as to how the escape-recruitment power works: is it a one-shot deal, or does it mean you dodge one recruitment every night?
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I'm guessing the way his role works is, if someone tries to recruit him, he can choose whether or not to be recruited. Awaiting his confirmation though.
If my guess turns out to be true, then yeah, we got a permaneutral
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On May 22 2010 10:40 Fishball wrote:
I can be recruited, but I get to escape the next cycle if I wanted.
Uses, of course, is limited, so no, I'm not perma-neutral.
Damn, lol. Too much to hope for I suppose
Still, quite a nice role, and a decent deterrent to recruitment.
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It's a Friday night, I just finished my finals, and I want to enjoy some time with my friends and Mr. Alcohol, so I will probably be off for the rest of the night. I'll catch up tomorrow and post then!
Also, unless we've got a daykill target for sure tomorrow, I'll throw up a poll sometime a few hours before the day ends, and go off that. That cool with everyone?
Peace, guys ^^
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On May 22 2010 11:16 johnnyspazz wrote:
okaay sooo i don't have access to a computer for like a day and jesus christ the thread doubles??? can someone give me a heads up on what i should know?
Alright, one more post. Dammit, I'm addicted tot his game
Here's what happened, roughly:
Tricode claims he rolechecked L, and saw that L has recruitment powers
A lot of people jump on this bandwagon
Hesmyrr then counters, with evidence. He can block anything from happening to one person at night, including rolechecks. He proves himself trustworthy.
The town gets very pissed at Tricode, because Tricode has now lied, making him very scummy.
Decisions get made. One is that I will handle today's daykill, so vote for me, and argue for who you want to kill.
The other decision (something we should have done the first day), is that everyone MUST post their name in the thread. They can post their role if they wish, but if they feel uncomfortable doing so, just a name will suffice. This is to root out the faction leaders, as they will have to lie about their name, and stand a chance of getting caught.
Them's the basics. Everything else is basically debate (you should read the entire thing, though, because this is a VERY basic overview and you'll miss out on a lot of stuff). So, to throw suspicion off yourself, do these things!
1. Read the entire thread
2. Post at least your name, and your role if you feel comfortable doing so (if you do not, that's totally cool and doesn't cast suspicion on you).
3. Do some analysis! Post who you think is likely to be a faction leader. Our goal is to kill another with the dayvote if at all possible.
4. If you agree with me handling the dayvote, vote for me in the vote thread. If you don't, vote for someone else, and state the reason why.
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OK, LEAVING FOR REALZ THIS TIME BYE.
See you all in about 12 hours!
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Well then. I think we're all agreed that L is going to be daykilled now?
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