EPTOn May 22 2010 02:48 L wrote:
Wait, so I was visited by like 4 people last night? What the fuck is this.
Wait, so I was visited by like 4 people last night? What the fuck is this.
would be funny if you had OpZ power of killin intruders lol
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Bill Murray
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Tricode
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On May 22 2010 03:44 Falcynn wrote: Alright, I just skimmed through the thread since six pages of long ass posts have come up since I went to bed last night, but I just wanted to check. Tricode you are aware of this possibility right? That you might be an "insane" cop in which case your guilty verdicts appear as innocent and vice versa. In case you're wondering, this is probably why some people think both you and L are full of shit. Anyways, gonna go back and read more in-depth. No, i know one of us is full of shit and my claim L is. If you go back and reread the thread carefully you will understand what I'm talking about. 2nd, my ability doesn't state anything about being insane or such. L is just making that shit up to confuse people. Look for the final time, it was not stated that there is a sanity part in my role. So Logic dictates that I'm a regular DT. Otherwise if there was a sanity factor Logic would dictate in some way or form I should be told or otherwise all DT's are useless in this game and pointless. Now I want someone to even try to destroy the logic. It's fucking mathematical black and white. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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Falcynn
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On May 22 2010 03:50 Tricode wrote: In most mafia games, if a DT is insane, they usually aren't notified of it and have to figure it out themselves (and considering that caller games seem to have a reputation of being ridiculous, it doesn't surprise me that it wouldn't be mentioned anywhere if this happens to be the case). But yeah, I'm rereading the thread while checking for new posts here.2nd, my ability doesn't state anything about being insane or such. | ||
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Bill Murray
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Also Caller has a habit of telling DT's the answer to their question as soon as he gets it. Don't forget that...(Not that I would ever accuse Caller of such grievous actions, but I got the answers in red army two instantly...Lol)" i do that myself as a mod. well, i did in my first game. bad habit in retrospect that i will hopefully break. | ||
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LunarDestiny
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L
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I'm quite happy that a bunch of people have outed themselves with lies for no benefit. Gan Bei, motherfuckers. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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Falcynn
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BrownBear
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On May 22 2010 03:44 Hesmyrr wrote: I am Lu Xun. I can protect one person from night actions from every night. I asked Caller, and he said my protection overrides everything, including recruitment/NK/investigation etc. I said encryption codes to ~Opz~ day 1 so you can feel pretty confident in my roleclaim (I did leave out NK bit, but we traded names and I was afraid Lu Bu was serial killer. Tricode did fix himself to being an DT so I suppose it won't matter). I am obviously speaking up because I protected L last night, and thus know what Tricode is saying cannot be true. It is likely that he is Yellow Turban and is trying to waste today's kill. Either way it is clear to me neither of these two cannot be Yellow Turban leader. This is why I propose an alternative plan; Tracker contacted me via PM and stated Radfield was visited by Xelin. He is kind of lurkish and kind of off everyone's radar, but I believe we have better chance of hitting faction leader by targetting Xelin instead of either Tricode or L. This is my plan: we pick one Townie other than me, L, or Tricode, and tell him to NK Xelin. At the upcoming night we can clarify this Tricode-L situation by having Abenson target Tricode- this will definiely prove he is YT. If Tricode does not die, then I'll accept he is genuine in his claim and I fucked up somewhere (lol Caller), and just lynch him day 3. Hm. Ok then. So, this doesn't mean L's name is completely cleared, but it does mean that Tricode is lying. I don't particularly like liars all that much. However, your idea to lynch XeliN has some merit. Tracker, I'm assuming, is a role where you follow someone and see who they visited. This is interesting... Right now, I'm still unconvinced that we should target XeliN, largely because I'm still pissed at Tricode for lying like that after I backed him up, but I'm unsure. So, to take my biases out of the equation, I hereby nominate myself for being in charge of today's daykill. Here's how I will handle it: Everyone who decides to give me your armies, post in the thread that you have, and post who you want me to kill. Majority rules, whoever has the most votes at the end of the day will be my target if I win the dayvote. This way, I don't have to make complicated decisions, we choose someone the town picks, and you guys can decide whether we a) lynch Tricode for lying or b) lynch XeliN for visiting someone. Oh, and Im not gonna kill myself, so if you really want me dead for some reason, give your armies to someone else  | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On May 22 2010 03:49 Hesmyrr wrote: 1. Unless Caller is fucking around with phrase "You will not be notified if someone is hit or checked, nor will your target", I can't see how both of us can be telling the truth. You claim to have DT checked L, but my protection nullifies all night actions. Thus I know you are lying. 2. My protection overrides all night actions- this makes sense favour-wise because Lu Xun was great tactician. It wouldn't make sense for me to only have NK block ability. 3. ~Opz~ got my roleclaim day 1. Thus I cannot be making this up due to recruitment. If you are genuine in your claim, obviously you would survive getting checked by Abenson then we have firm reason to lynch L. So what is the problem? 1. Unless Caller is fucking around with phrase "You will not be notified if someone is hit or checked, nor will your target", I can't see how both of us can be telling the truth. You claim to have DT checked L, but my protection nullifies all night actions. Thus I know you are lying. A. But when L dies tonight and shows he is a faction leader all his recruits go down with him. Have fun with that lie. You do know my death means L's death and his recruits which is now shown to be you too. 2. My protection overrides all night actions- this makes sense favour-wise because Lu Xun was great tactician. It wouldn't make sense for me to only have NK block ability. B. You're just restating your claim in your first answer. We have no idea if you're lying, but we know you're trying to protect L and suspicion points to him being a faction leader. I have no real benefit to gain from lying, but he does and he will die either case and you will be shown as a liar upon his death today or next time around. 3. ~Opz~ got my roleclaim day 1. Thus I cannot be making this up due to recruitment. C. Unless you lied to him from the beginning. Meaning you and L are part of the YT and since BM is starting to make comments like L such as stating to ignore me which is completely different from how he acted in the beginning of the game. I can only guess you guys recruited him and there was more then one person in the YT. Though this can be wrong and you were the only one recruited and you're lying about your ability. There is more to be gained by L's death. His recruits are already trying to protect him by even lying. Once he dies, his faction and group goes down. If he is indeed YT then that would explain a lot and the force that people feel most threatened by will be eliminated. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 22 2010 03:44 Hesmyrr wrote: I am Lu Xun. I can protect one person from night actions from every night. I asked Caller, and he said my protection overrides everything, including recruitment/NK/investigation etc. I said encryption codes to ~Opz~ day 1 so you can feel pretty confident in my roleclaim (I did leave out NK bit, but we traded names and I was afraid Lu Bu was serial killer. Tricode did fix himself to being an DT so I suppose it won't matter). I am obviously speaking up because I protected L last night, and thus know what Tricode is saying cannot be true. It is likely that he is Yellow Turban and is trying to waste today's kill. Either way it is clear to me neither of these two cannot be Yellow Turban leader. This is why I propose an alternative plan; Tracker contacted me via PM and stated Radfield was visited by Xelin. He is kind of lurkish and kind of off everyone's radar, but I believe we have better chance of hitting faction leader by targetting Xelin instead of either Tricode or L. This is my plan: we pick one Townie other than me, L, or Tricode, and tell him to NK Xelin. At the upcoming night we can clarify this Tricode-L situation by having Abenson target Tricode- this will definiely prove he is YT. If Tricode does not die, then I'll accept he is genuine in his claim and I fucked up somewhere (lol Caller), and just lynch him day 3. Does the person you protected know he was protected? If it nullifies abilities wouldn't a NK not be informed to L? (ie how would he know he was hit) Basically from the way you said your ability, and from the understanding of how it seems to work (via talk in thread) L shouldn't have known someone tried to hit him (we still need that vig to step up as the only vig to do so far is a YT killer) to say he hit L, and a dt check that shouldn't have worked. This means that potentially, potentially 4 people are bullshiting L Tricode Hesmyrr Abenson Seriously guys? It seems unlikely that given the amount of people who have supposedly visited L last night for caller to fuck up how the roles work. So would another vig claim to someone that he hit L (that isn't abenson), and would hesmyrr clarify if his role blocks everything and that the user of the abilities blocked receieves notification of its failure, of it the intended victim recieves notification of it. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On May 22 2010 03:51 flamewheel91 wrote: I'm laughing inside. i'm not trying to be an ass here, but i feel like your bookmarks and quips like this give away information and i would like for you to stop please | ||
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Hesmyrr
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:02 Bill Murray wrote: i'm not trying to be an ass here, but i feel like your bookmarks and quips like this give away information and i would like for you to stop please he doesn't have any information lawllllll | ||
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