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Okay so, readin' done.
Last romantic's post-death post is kinda interesting. Tells us that leaders have a veteran ability or something that might have applied to lynches? If there is a vet ability, that means that YT is going to be pushing pretty hard on days 3-4 to grab the lynch vote.
If that's the case, YT will probably stop at 5 or so members, because as player numbers drop that'll be all they need to grab a lynch vote. After that its a question of them reducing the number of other players in the game down with vig hits and by trying to kill leaders. If they are starting with a single leader, by contrast, they might play it differently, but frankly I think its relatively unlikely that YT would be given the same format as the other 3 factions granted that ROTK worked on the premise that YT was scary early, and that beating them down was an early move.
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Given that I'm not a leader, nor do I have those abilities, this makes me think you're a YT member who's asking for a lynch as per my expectations prior to the day unfolding. I don't think you're the YT leader, because you probably woulda said something during the night.
But are you the DT? Lol, you don't need to be because someone had the balls of taking a shot at me last night which was blocked by a medic who msged me. I'm pretty sure someone in your group is raging that they didn't kill me and this is pretty predictable rage on your part.
Oh well.
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I'm not talking my way out of anything. I know you're straight up lying and that YT is trying to grab today's lynch vote. The only faction that could have known what you knew was one that had you and one that had a vig. Either you're the vig and decided the blocked hit was a good call, or you're in a team with a vig and you guys got angry in IRC when the hit didn't land.
If you were a neutral vig and took a shot at me you probably wouldn't have went ballistic.
Hence why I'm pretty sure you're in YT.
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Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents. But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that.
You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain.
I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT.
Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me.
Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same.
So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though.
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Its worse than that. He didn't announce my role either. He basically thought he knew i was a leader based off that vig hit but fucked up.
Now he's scrambling because he knows that he'll basically flip me and a medic as legit if he dies.
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Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you?
I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/.
Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information.
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On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 13:45 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote:Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information. I don't recall there being a role like insane dt since nothing like that was announced in the rules and nothing states how I can gain my sanity or figure out such a thing. Other wise all dt's would be useless if you go with that logic. Your logic is flawed. FAIL lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee Sup Tricode.
Getting desperate? Its easy to be a cool cucumber when you know you aren't lying like me :3.
Your plan was pretty good too besides for the medic protection! That's why I know who's on your team. Pretty sure he'll try to make a push soon because he's scared. I'd prefer checking to see if you're neutral vig or insane DT, though, because that might mean I'm wrong :3.
See, I know I'm legit. So If I die, we waste a turn, then if we kill you and you're vig or insane, we waste another turn.
Then another 6 people have been recruited, and probably a few more vig shots fired, which means that at this point we'd essentially have zero way to win as neutrals. Given that I'd rather not chance my victory on getting picked into the right side, I think confirming what you are is a good idea.
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On May 21 2010 14:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Down to the infidel L HAHAHAHA OH WOW. EXACTLY AS EXPECTED.
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The part where you voted 3 minutes after the tricode post without bothering to even say anything in the thread was pretty gold :3.
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On May 21 2010 14:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 14:11 L wrote: The part where you voted 3 minutes after the tricode post without bothering to even say anything in the thread was pretty gold :3. I know duder. I'm like the perfect spy, sneaking around with a knife waiting to stab you STAB YOU. You and I both know that any game that you die is hilarious, as such im going with callers theme of hilariously fucked up shit and saying lets kill L Bro. I love you thinking. Hilariousness is 100% assured here. Unless Tricode's neutral vig or insane, in which case its going to just be facepalmy.
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Remember leaders main goals should be recruiting not killing off regular townies. The more townies they get the bigger armies they can have and better chances of killing off other leaders so they can win. So why would I want to do the opposite of that? Unless you're a FACTION LEADER. Are you seriously asking me why a grunt in the YT would call me a faction leader if he shot me and knew that the leader who had died thusfar had night armor? YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT. Not only would YT get a player to look like a legit DT that could be used to stall a turn or end the game, but you'd monopolize today's lynch and throw all suspicion off your leader for at least an entire cycle.
Like I said. If I'm a insane DT i was not informed of this and seems like it would be something I would be told about and have a chance at least in being told how to make myself sane. Caller JUST told you that you're wrong and you bring this up again? Lol.
Also why would I lie if I was a vig or would even want to kill you if I was a vig? Don't recall that earlier "L hates me" comment you made? Did you seriously just ask "IF I SHOT YOU, WHY WOULD I WANT YOU TO DIE?"
You posted like 3 times prior to day 1 ending. All of your posts were spam besides the one that said that I hated you, yet you think you had no reason to try and hit me?
Seriously, you're like a retarded pretzel with all of these contortions. You're enraged that your vig shot failed and that you didn't guess what I was. Pretty obvious.
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On May 21 2010 14:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Oh I forgot e) massive troll If this is the case, I'd give him massive props after the game for being ballsy enough to try to drive a bus down my face off a lie.
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On May 21 2010 14:31 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 14:22 L wrote:Remember leaders main goals should be recruiting not killing off regular townies. The more townies they get the bigger armies they can have and better chances of killing off other leaders so they can win. So why would I want to do the opposite of that? Unless you're a FACTION LEADER. Are you seriously asking me why a grunt in the YT would call me a faction leader if he shot me and knew that the leader who had died thusfar had night armor? YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT. Not only would YT get a player to look like a legit DT that could be used to stall a turn or end the game, but you'd monopolize today's lynch and throw all suspicion off your leader for at least an entire cycle. Like I said. If I'm a insane DT i was not informed of this and seems like it would be something I would be told about and have a chance at least in being told how to make myself sane. Caller JUST told you that you're wrong and you bring this up again? Lol. Also why would I lie if I was a vig or would even want to kill you if I was a vig? Don't recall that earlier "L hates me" comment you made? Did you seriously just ask "IF I SHOT YOU, WHY WOULD I WANT YOU TO DIE?" You posted like 3 times prior to day 1 ending. All of your posts were spam besides the one that said that I hated you, yet you think you had no reason to try and hit me? Seriously, you're like a retarded pretzel with all of these contortions. You're enraged that your vig shot failed and that you didn't guess what I was. Pretty obvious. LOL!Caller stated nothing for one. Don't manipulate what Caller said. This is what Caller said: Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote:On May 21 2010 13:45 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote:Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information. I don't recall there being a role like insane dt since nothing like that was announced in the rules and nothing states how I can gain my sanity or figure out such a thing. Other wise all dt's would be useless if you go with that logic. Your logic is flawed. FAIL lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee Everything you had also just said is irrelevant and doesn't prove anything other then you're trying to put focus on me to try to delay the inevitable finding of you being a Faction Leader. Also what candidate was there for this day or who had any suspicion on them? No one! We had no candidates! You're the only candidate and suspicious person! Everything you have said so far are lies and that's why your whole argument is flawed! Uh, I haven't lied at all. Caller just flat out told you you're wrong.
I'm not trying to do anything. I want to kill you to confirm my suspicion that BC is the YT leader. I think there are probably 3-4 of you total. Probably 3 because one of you had a night hit. Because of that I'm expecting an attempt at a wagon, but we'll see if the real townies up and deal with this.
As for the candidates; there were a few. MyHeroNoob was mentioned, for starters, but that's kinda irrelevant. If the medic wants to step forward and reveal himself to clear this up, that's his call, but I'm not in the least lying about having been shot tonight, and I'm not in the least lying about you having an incorrect rolecheck on me. You basically fucked up and outted yourself.
This is why we used to have lynch the claimant as the meta during mafia 2, but then people got smart and stopped fake claiming. Then you thought you had a free fake claim because there is no role list and you thought I protected a vig hit because of night armor.
You're at the point where you've been caught in a lie and you know you'll die if you don't get a train going soon because there's someone else (maybe 2 if your team's vig wants to pony you up?) that knows I'm telling the truth about what happened last night.
Regardless, I'm going to sleep. Don't twist yourself into any more pretzels to justify your lies. Its probably bad for your back.
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Tricode, if you die the only thing that'll be confirmed is that you're either a massive troll, an insane DT, a vig, or any of those + YT.
So no, I'm not scared of you dying. I'll finish off with this:
Tricode, I waited a while to see if you would note something:
I've said that there are three people involved in this mess: A Vig. A medic. Me.
You claim that you're a DT. Okay. If you're a DT, then you'd probably have realized that if I'm telling the truth, there is a vig and a medic at play here. You, however, not for a single moment, ask the vig to step up. But why? Why wouldn't you do that? If you could show that there was no vig in the game, or that there was no medic, you'd be able to claim that I'm lying about that.
But you don't. You tell the medic to shut up because you know he'll validate my story and you ask nothing of the Vig after more than a page of back and forth.
Why?
Well its pretty obvious. You are, or are on the vig's team. Even the Insane DT can be ruled out because the insane DT would have wanted a vig to step up immediately for the town's sake.
Based on that, and the fact that you didn't even bother to question that there was a vig when I said there was one, or that the vig wouldn't come out because he was on your team, its pretty clear you're YT or vig.
QED. Nice try.
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If you aren't insane, then you're the vig.
Its pretty clear. If the vig steps up then he isn't you and when i flip legit he'll be on the block after you flip. That would take out half the YT team. If you were the DT you'd be GAGGING over the possibility of confirming your own role. Instead you're asking for the opposite.
You're lying and aren't asking the questions which a real DT would.
Was entirely certain that once you faked this claim you'd fuck up. And there you did. Now your team's pretty much dead. Well done on handing us the YT on a silver platter.
Once again: QED.
Sleep time.
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Wait, so I was visited by like 4 people last night? What the fuck is this.
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On May 22 2010 02:51 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 02:48 L wrote: Wait, so I was visited by like 4 people last night? What the fuck is this. I don't know if Lu Xun visited you or not. He just said Tricode is full of shit. But if Lu Xun DID visit you, you are full of shit too. @_@ Confusing. Odd you would get so many visits, I guess because BC has been so damn quiet this game... Anyone else notice that? Re-read Lu Xun's role, please :3.
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Well, isn't that special. Someone else is lying.
Someone already claimed vig to me in pms and 1 medic pmed me. I also don't have night armor. Alternatively you're telling the truth and SIX people visited me last night. Party at L's place, no doubt.
Caller, this game is hilarious.
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On May 22 2010 03:13 BrownBear wrote: Lol what 6 people? I only count 3, possibly 4, unless I'm missing some people. I count Tricode, Abenson, and me, and possibly Lu Xun. who else visited?
So, I'm gonna say this is my official stance:
If Lu Xun wants to say "I protected L, lay offa him ya fuckers", then I will switch my vote off of Tricode and over to L, and I vote we lynch Tricode for lying like that. If it was a medic who protected L, that would only block my night hit - not Tricode's powercheck, which would mean L is lying, and thus is still probably a faction leader, so my vote remains unchanged.
If there are no roleclaims about that shit, then I'm gonna stay with what I know - I tried to kill L last night, it failed, it's most likely that it failed because of night armor, so he's most likely a faction leader.
Alternately L, if you want to roleclaim and explain why Tricode is full of shit, either in this thread or by PMing me, I'm totally willing to listen.
I have no night armor and 2 people have claimed to hit me. that's 4. Lu Xun and Tricode potentially. 6. Abenson who tried to yellow kill me. 7.
I really wish I was methman. That woulda been awesome.
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And here's where I get to say "I told you so".
I'm quite happy that a bunch of people have outed themselves with lies for no benefit. Gan Bei, motherfuckers.
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