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On May 08 2010 04:21 Qatol wrote: But that's exactly what I'm wondering about. What if he really WAS medic protected? Medic protection generally supercedes all other kinds except martyr, and if I were medic, he is the player I would have watched that night. As far as the "took a hit" claim goes - yes, that is almost always the right call in this situation. At the same time, I feel like someone would have claimed medic at this point. Nearly everyone alive has been under heat from someone else or another (besides Hobbes, which is why he needs to die if he doesn't deliver), and from my perspective any of us could have claimed medic reasonably (i.e. Scamp has been under a lot of pressure, if he came out before day ended yesterday and said he was medic, it'd be believable because he doesn't want to die). That's my reasoning why I said we probably don't have a medic. At any rate it's probably best for us to just assume worst case scenario in that we don't have a medic. Making a plan and hoping for a medic save along the way is not the way to go. Yo guys, night is ~7 hours away from ending. We need a CompVig hit. If the votes so far stay the way they are it's going to be up to the CompVig's discretion to choose who to hit. And ya'll know who I want to hit. | ||
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On May 08 2010 05:39 Qatol wrote: I don't think you should be hitting Korynne. While she has been quiet, a mafia also just pushed pretty hard to get her lynched. That doesn't necessarily mean she is innocent (the mafia could be using this as a way to keep her out of the spotlight), but I think she just merits more watching right now. We can lynch her if her activity level doesn't increase. I think you should be hitting either Scamp or Zona (with my preference on Zona unless he speaks up). JeeJee voted Scamp. Several times. Citi.zen voted me. Scamp voted Hobbes. Does anyone else have a second choice? If I missed a vote, it wasn't in the last 4ish pages or it wasn't bolded. So anyone feel free to correct me. That's a good point about Korynne. Also, she claims to be green and have no role. If she were mafia with Darth, I think the mafia would have tried to push Korynne for lynch instead of Darth, since Darth would be more valuable to the mafia since he has a role. While this doesn't excuse her attitude, I guess they are notable points. Given's Zona recent inactivity, I'm totally cool hitting him. I'm skeptical about hitting Scamp though. I'd still choose Hobbes over these two guys. | ||
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On May 08 2010 11:46 Scamp wrote: What the hell? No one is here? Compvigging me is a MAJOR mistake with a capital M. Throwing that out there last-second. That's what I said, but I'm in a very awkward situation here. | ||
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On May 08 2010 12:05 Qatol wrote: Ace, Hobbes hasn't posted in something like 2 days 6 hours. Zona hasn't posted in almost 2 days. Can we get a warning or something here? I like just killing them both. | ||
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On May 08 2010 16:02 Korynne wrote: Ok, so. We have: Falcynn citi.zen Korynne Foolishness ~Opz~ Qatol 2 mafia, 4 townies. Lynch a townie: We dead, unless we compvig a mafia. Lynch a mafia: We all good for tomorrow. So again, we probably shouldn't kill Foolishness unless we're like 90% sure he's mafia because without compvig we're dead overnight if we screw it up. We got 1 mafia, 5 townies. We mislynch, it goes to night with 1 mafia, 4 townies. Assuming all night hits go through, mafia hits someone, 1 mafia 3 townies. Comp Vig makes a night hit too. If he doesn't hit mafia, 1 mafia 2 townies. So worse case scenario we still have another day. Unless someone's a Vigi or Jack and makes another kill somewhere, but given the claims so far that seems incredibly unlikely. | ||
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On May 08 2010 16:49 Korynne wrote: No I don't feel you. I just explained why it doesn't make a difference if we keep him alive. Game will end 1 day sooner if you keep me alive  | ||
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On May 08 2010 17:06 Korynne wrote: How will it end sooner... We have 2 days either way...and 3 tries instead of 2 tries to hit mafia if we keep you around (and mafia kills you tonight). So right now my choices for lynch would be: Qatol, Falcynn, or OpZ. If you kill me today, 1mafia/5 town. Goes to night, 1 mafia/4town. If you mislynch, 1 mafia/3 town, goes to night, 1 mafia/2town. Lynch ends the game Worst case scenario there's 3 more days (including today). Keep me alive and we mislynch, 1mafia/5town. Goes to night, mafia hit. Lets say my hit doesn't hit mafia. 1 mafia/3town. Lynch ends the game as if there's a mislynch it goes to night and mafia will kill someone and win. Worst case scenario there's 2 more days (including today). This is all assuming all hits go through, meaning there's no Jack/bulletproof/etc alive. | ||
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On May 08 2010 17:27 Korynne wrote: Foolishness who do you think is mafia? You, for all the reasons said before. If I had to pick someone other than you, I'd pick Falcynn at the moment, but I need to do some rereading before making a final call. | ||
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On May 08 2010 17:37 Qatol wrote: I'd like to point out that I was the one pushing for the CompVig hit on Zona. I realize it probably gets me nowhere in anyone's eyes, but it is still a fact. With Zona flipping scum, as Korynne mentioned, citi.zen is cleared through the numbers. (I think the mafia would have to be insane to double up on 12 with the original setup.) Does it? How? Let's assume you are innocent: 5 1 - lynch an innocent player other than you 4 1 - mafia miss, you miss 2 1 - lynch or lose 5 1 - lynch you 4 1 - mafia miss 3 1 - this is still lynch or lose. If the town mislynches here, we still lose. This is because we would be at 2 1 with a mafia hit incoming. That takes us down to 1 1 and mafia win if their numbers equal our own. Anyways, I have an analysis of you in the works. You have some questions I think you need to answer. I pointed it out above. Ends one day sooner. Your math is wrong here. Stick to your draft numbers, you know the thing you have been focusing on ALL GAME LONG. If your analysis has anything to do with the draft or number picking, I'm not going to bother to respond. You need arguments that aren't centered around it; my eyes are continually sore from your repetitive arguments about people picking numbers. I always thought you were more of a behavioral analysis guy, not an Ace "omg guys I found the ultimate plan to find the mafia if any of you disagree with me we kill you!" kinda guy. | ||
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Am I right? Am I right? Am I right? That was my devious plan from the beginning. Modkill my mafia buddy to prove me innocent. Not to mention modkill my PARDONER mafia buddy, who could save me from lynch. And now that I think about it, if I was mafia with him, we might actually have this game in the bag had he been alive. With a pardon, and 2 kills each night, I think we'd win no matter what (definitely need to double check the numbers, I'm too tired to do so). So yes, I gave up a possible auto win to modkill my mafia buddy to try to prove my innocence, and hope to avoid 2 days' worth of lynches. You found out my plan. GG. | ||
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On May 08 2010 18:06 Qatol wrote: Actually, there is a mistake in your analysis. Here is what you said: 5 1 - mislynch 4 1 - mafia kill an innocent 3 1 - mislynch 2 1 - lynch ends the game? I see a missing night hit. Town still only gets 2 lynches no matter who we lynch. If you think my biggest strength was ever behavioral analysis, you seriously need to reread mafia 4. However, I still found Zona, didn't I? Why have I been making those arguments on numbers? Well have they been wrong yet? Actually, they have been 100% correct so far. I said that the mafia likely didn't pick two of the same number. So far we have seen a [6][1], [8][1], and [12][1]. I said that after we found sidesprang and darth were mafia, JeeJee was cleared. Notice how he was pretty much instantly hit. Pushing for Zona to be modkilled doesn't exactly get you anywhere. How would you look if you had been fighting against him getting modkilled? Especially if you had only been fighting against HIM and not Hobbes too? I don't think that really gets you anything either way. And a pardoner mafia buddy still can't pardon if he isn't around to do so. My analysis wasn't going to mention this at all, but thanks for highlighting that it does nothing for or against you. But don't you worry. I have a real analysis coming on you. Obviously I would've just not said anything when it came time. Instead of saying "just kill them both". So you saying Zona is mafia before we find out says your innocent. Me agreeing with you on the fact then telling Ace to modkill him doesn't make me innocent? Oh wait you're a vet. I forgot that normal mafia rules don't apply to you, and that you are superior to all. All hail Qatol. He figured out my plan to modkill my own teammate to make me look innocent. You lynch me today, there will be 1 mafia and 5 townspeople. It will go to night time. After night time, there will be 1 mafia and 4 townspeople. Let's say you mislynch, so there are 1 mafia and 3 townspeople. It goes to night, mafia kill, there will be 1 mafia and 2 townspeople. It goes to day. Town gets to lynch. That's 3 lynches total. And a total of 3 days pass (including today). Let's say you toss away your vet ego and think rationally (I know this won't happen, but I'm an optimist when it comes to people changing). So you decide to not lynch me. Let's say we mislynch. 1 mafia and 5 townspeople. It goes to night. Mafia get to kill, and I get to kill. 1 mafia and 3 townspeople. It's day time. We mislynch we lose. That's 3 lynches total (2 at day, and the 1 whoever you pick me to kill). And a total of 2 days pass (including today). Your math is wrong. You do law. I do math. I know your a vet and that's supposed to make you smarter than me, but it doesn't. Oh by the way guys, I purposely modkilled my mafia teammate even though we could have possibly instantly won. | ||
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Foolishness
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I'll assume best case scenario and say Hobbes was modkilled, but Zona wasn't. So that's 2 mafia/6 townspeople. If you guys mislynch it'll be game over, that's pretty obvious. If you lynch one of us, Zona pardons and it goes to night. We would kill 2. So that's 2 mafia/4 townspeople. You lynch the same person you chose before, since I'm assuming Zona cannot pardon the same person twice. That'd be 1 mafia/4 townspeople. If I was alive I'd kill 2, but that wouldn't be game over, Zona would only be able to kill one if I died, and that wouldn't be game over either. So there wasn't an instant win. But we could have forced the town into a situation where if they mislynch they lose, which is really really good for the mafia. But I gave that up anyways, even knowing that I'd probably be number 1 lynch candidate. All hail Qatol. | ||
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On May 08 2010 18:25 Korynne wrote: Uh Foolishness. There's 6 of us left. So after we lynch you we're left with 1 mafia and 4 townspeople. Is this your slipup as mafia? xD As in, oh hey, if I die there's 5 townies left. xP Oh there's 6 of us left total. Wow oops. One of your earlier posts implied there were 6 townspeople so I assumed that. It's late, oh well. My bad on that. | ||
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On May 08 2010 18:29 Korynne wrote: FOOLISHNESS U CAN'T COUNT THERE ARE SIX OF US LEFT... YEAH MY BAD I REALIZE NOW | ||
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On May 08 2010 18:27 Korynne wrote: So FoS is on you Foolishness. xD But I still say we lynch someone today, compvig someone tonight, and then kill Foolishness tomorrow. So at least we would have all 3 attempts at lynching someone. This. You kill me now you only get 2. Well 1 in the long run since I'm clean. arrgghhhh I'm so retarded. | ||
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On May 08 2010 18:37 Qatol wrote: Okay good. You see it. And remember, I have an engineering degree. It isn't like I don't do math too. You know better than that...... And it's good for you too. You can just forget your big analysis post of me because my stupidity is hampering the town more than a mafia right now @.@ | ||
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On May 08 2010 19:03 Korynne wrote: I'm okay with Foolishness shooting himself tonight... but like, I don't see how he would agree to it is my only concern with that plan. xP If he does agree to shoot himself and is not mafia, then he should give his full analysis before killing himself. =P After being so incredibly retarded I'm almost okay with shooting myself right now. Honestly I'm probably too tired so I'm just going to wait until I calm down and sleep and then discuss it. REMEMBER DONT READ PAGE 44 GUYS! | ||
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