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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 04:48 GMT
#224
Yes I read that Hobbes, but that pertains to my next post in case he mis-wrote it.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 04:56 GMT
#225
So basically, since I didn't get my role (not roleblocker or inventor, but something pretty important), someone else took it. Which leaves that at Foolishness and Bill Murray.

I say BM is extremely suspicious at this point. He's blatantly not wanting to play with the plan, which I don't understand because that guarantees us top 3-4 roles PLUS not letting mafia have them even if we die.

Foolishness has yet to comment on things after roles were out.

Since Qatol is claiming that copy cat is taken, I understand that this information means you guys probably should not lynch me in case I did get a good role and I am just passing it on to the copy cat to make it anonymous.

So since we need to lynch someone closer to the end of the list... I propose citi.zen at the moment. Not because he accuses me, but rather his logic seems off with accusing [me and Foolishness] for outsmarting people due to picking numbers. We clearly would lower our chances of being at the front by picking [1][1] and[1][5] rather than [1][1] and [2][1].

Oh, not to mention he's at the end of the list so he probably doesn't have a good role.

Of course that's going off only one post of information, but I will step it up a bit.

These are first impressions. I am not going to pretend they are strong and will not argue with anyone just yet - don't bother. Onwards and upwards.


I am not going to pretend my argument against citi.zen is very strong either, but I would like him to reply and explain why he thinks "our" number picking is in any way suspicious. By that I mean, if me and Foolishness were mafia together, why it would make any sense for me to pick [1][5] AND for him to pick [1][1].
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 07:01 GMT
#234
The point was that the floridian would be useless if we knew who he was. But as d3 (I think) pointed out of floridian was picked by mafia up beforehand anonymously then that would be bad.

So now we have a mafia copy cat. No idea what BM and Folishness were up to because I'm not the role I was picking...so like...urgh.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 09:11 GMT
#236
If there are no better candidates at the end of the day I propose an alignment check on either BM or Foolishness, and a role check on me.

Actually I'm not sure which one is better(which check to use on who)... I really need to sleep. xD

Regarding your comment about johnnyspazz, it just seems to mean that Incognito didn't teach him very well. xP
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 19:39 GMT
#253
Well I said we should check up on the 3 of us the first day.

Clearly you shouldn't just accept what I say. If I was mafia and I got the compulsive vigilante role then killing me would be a bad idea because if what Qatol says is true, the copy cat will get my role.

Lynching BM or Foolishness before figuring out who is what would be stupid because that means we have a 50% chance of losing a very important role if we lynch the wrong person. AND letting the copy cat take that role.

I think the mafia's train of thought is basically: Take copy cat, let BM/Foolishness (whoever is mafia, could be both) take compulsive vigilante. So clearly we will be able to figure out one of them early but then we need to stall for another night before being able to kill them if we think we should kill a less important role first.

I do not suggest anyone protect me tonight, since I am vanilla.

If I am mafia, it wouldn't make sense for me to tell you not to protect me, since #1 you protecting me would mean you're wasting a protect on me rather than someone else. #2 Mafia wouldn't kill me if I was one of them, because that's just killing 25% of them for no reason.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 20:22 GMT
#256
I claimed mine because there are only 2 people ahead of me. And they would both have power roles, so this information is very important for town.

If I did get compulsive vigilante and I am mafia this would be the dumbest move ever (since it would get me discovered/killed for no reason). If I am mafia and let someone else get the role, then again, dumbest move ever since I can just pretend I have the role for a while and then when you finally discover I don't you still have no idea who does.

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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 20:58 GMT
#260
the fact you all are talking about lynching the person who picked first means:
1) you are mafia, have the copycat, and are scratching your nuts for my role
2) you are the copycat, and you expect me to have a good role
3) you are a terrible town player


I mentioned this repeatedly that we shouldn't lynch one of you two until we figure out which one is mafia because clearly lynching a low number townie is bad. (I proposed we lynch citi.zen)

If I was the copy cat I'd be dead pretty soon anyway if I draw so much attention on myself and both you and foolishness check out to be town and what not. Also I don't have nuts...

If I was town why would I purposely kill off you instead of mafia doing that eventually anyway?

Since I didn't say, hey guys let's lynch BM or foolishness I think the 3rd point doesn't apply.

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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 21:39 GMT
#263
-.-

Qatol claims he didn't get copy cat. Next.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 23:25 GMT
#271
Inventor and Compulsive Vigilante are NOT easy to keep track of. As in, if Foolishness and BM are not said roles but are instead mafia, they can easily pass the roles to someone else and that person will carry out the roles (as town directs them to). We definitely must check them for alignment.

Now looking at it this way, it feels like Qatol's plan was a terrible idea. Dx
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 03 2010 00:59 GMT
#274
We can\t know if he is the compulsive vigilante. If he doesn't do what town asks, we lynch him. And then find out he's mafia and not the comp vig, so then we still don't know who comp vig is...
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 03 2010 22:15 GMT
#331
Uh, 30 hours? Not so much. I just got back from work, but I will be relatively active during times of not work/sleep. So that's like for the next 6 hours, skip 16 hours, then online again until the end of the 30 hours.

Didn't actually have anything to say other than that since everything seems to be rather messy at the moment... =\
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 03 2010 22:25 GMT
#333
Bill seems pretty okay at the moment, at least appearing to be useful-ish? I definitely would appreciate someone checking out Foolishness' alignment due to my claim that someone took CompVig before me. =\

I think compvig is more of a problem than inventor. If we make an incorrect choice in the day there's no reason, if the mafia is compvig, for mafia not to follow through with the lynch. If we choose a mafia as the target for the compvig, they can either hit the mafia, or just hit a townie. If they hit a townie, we lynch Foolishness/BM (carefully of course, hopefully alignment checked or role checked). But then we still don't know who the real compvig is. In the meantime BM/Foolishness could have picked up another useful role like DayVig or JoaT or CopyCat or whatever.

So can we sort out this alignment issue for the two people ahead of me? (Of course, medics should still protect them until we know if they're mafia)
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 03 2010 22:26 GMT
#334
If you've read the thread you know that I have tried to obtain the role CompVig and failed to do so, meaning either you or Foolishness is CompVig, and I am a borin' lil vanilla townie who had 3rd pick in the draft. >_>
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 04 2010 05:13 GMT
#350
Hmmm, this further increases my suspicion of BM/Foolishness.
I'm assuming d3 could've died trying to protect one of them.

Well now that mafia copy cat has a nub weak doctor role...

Can someone claim alignment on BM/Foolishness? I guess it's a bad idea to reveal your role so soon though. =\

FoS on BM/Foolishness, but certainly don't want to lynch the wrong one here. =\

Cellphone seems like a reasonable invention, given that mafia wouldn't need a cell to PM each other. If inventor tries to give the invention to someone who died during the night (ex. d3) is the invention basically wasted?
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 04 2010 20:41 GMT
#436
On May 04 2010 14:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 14:13 Korynne wrote:
Hmmm, this further increases my suspicion of BM/Foolishness.
I'm assuming d3 could've died trying to protect one of them.

Well now that mafia copy cat has a nub weak doctor role...

Can someone claim alignment on BM/Foolishness? I guess it's a bad idea to reveal your role so soon though. =\

FoS on BM/Foolishness, but certainly don't want to lynch the wrong one here. =\
[...]

You don't think BM had protection if he wasn't mafia?

Seriously, mafia hitting BM would of been....Not the smartest idea if he's town. So forget your FoS. It's weak. Extremely shakey.


Okay seriously OpZ you need to read, or be more clear.

A weak doctor died, which means that he could've tried to protect a mafia and got killed. Seeing as how we're all like PROTECT BM AND FOOLISHNESS, d3 could've died protecting one of them. I'm not implying BM or Foolishness should've died, I'm saying d3 could've died trying to protect one of them if they are mafia. Granted, SK probably killed someone and mafia killed someone but then again one of their kills could've been blocked so who knows...

Also citi.zen, why do you vote for killing me out of me OpZ and Falcynn, I have no opposition to you killing me for information (finding out that BM/Foolishness is mafia/compvig) but you didn't state a reasoning.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 04 2010 20:59 GMT
#444
Weak doctor dies if they protect person of opposite alignment. So town weak doctor dies if they try to protect mafia, as in why I thought it was suspicious that d3 died.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 04 2010 23:51 GMT
#471
Foolishness. You basically have to claim.

Mafia knows whether BM, you, and/or me is mafia.

#1 BM is mafia.
He can get another mafia to take inventor, and he can steal compvig from town. In this case, you should claim NOT compvig. And we deal with Bill. (by deal with I mean confirm his alignment somehow, and lynch me if necessary)

#2 You and/or BM are mafia.
Well, if you claim compvig, we go wtf why did you do that when I was supposed to take it. If you claim NOT compvig either you or Bill is lying, we can lynch me and then deal with you.

#3 I am mafia.
Well then I am retarded...my plan involves lynching me first to confirm.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 04 2010 23:59 GMT
#475
Also flamewheel it's okay, apparently everyone on the internet is assumed male unless proven. xP

But seriously Foolishness if you are town, you should claim either compvig or not compvig. If I was mafia and I was lying, then I would already know you are not compvig. If I was mafia and telling the truth, and BM is mafia with me, then I would already know if you are compvig. If I was mafia and BM is town, then I doubt BM has the coordination to pull off another townie pretending to be inventor instead of him. If I was town, and mafia knows I'm town, then they know that I'm probably telling the truth, and they will know you and BM's role.

So telling us whether you are compvig or not compvig only benefits town.

So basically, if you claim compvig, everything's okay for now other than wtf why did you steal my role. If you claim not compvig then you and BM are under heavy scrutiny (or at least will be when I am revealed town).
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 05 2010 01:07 GMT
#484
##Vote Sidesprang##

Here's to hoping we don't go today with no lynch.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 05 2010 01:08 GMT
#485
OpZ I've mentioned like 50 times why me lying would be such a terrible idea if I was mafia/town. Stop trying to lynch me it makes yourself look either scummy or stupid.
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